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Old 10-03-2012, 11:28 AM   #1
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4.0L HP gains

What would be a better gain for the money, a turbo or supercharger, or building the motor internally?
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What are your goals for the car? That drives the decision to answer the "which is better" question.

But building the motor is pretty expensive without getting the same level of performance gain that a supercharger or turbo will net you. For all out power the turbo gets the most power, but for daily driving the Xcharger supercharger gives the most low end power for quick lane changes and such. The vortech supercharger is in between the turbo and Xcharger.

So what are you looking for with the car? Until you answer that the "which is better for the money" question is meaningless.
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What would be a better gain for the money, a turbo or supercharger, or building the motor internally?
And if u get the supercharger, you will have to put in the 8.8 rearend, and i would also go with an aluminum drive shaft.
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My car is a daily driver, so I am looking for someway to gain power, yet retain drivability and reliability

And from what I've heard about the xcharger, I don't believe an 8.8 and aluminum driveshaft are imperative for running the supercharger.
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The problem with that is with that rear end and supercharger the fuel econ would get murdered
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and u still have a good chance in blowing the 7.5, to me, to get the most out of your supercharger, u need to swap out the rear end and put some 3;73 gears in, the 8.8 should already have the gears in that u need. just my opinion
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your going to reach the limits of the motor with either a turbo or supercharger, the turbo will give you more hp/tq but it will cost WAY more.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:25 PM   #8
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Just do some basic mods. If its a daily driver in my mind its not worth dumping in a bunch of money and lowering the life of the car. Being your work car if it breaks you got to think of not only the money to fix it but the money you miss out on not being at work.

If it was me do some minor things. Intake and exhaust with a tune.
Or buy a new DD so you then can have a strictly fun car.

Ive been there. And made the mistake atleast 3 times lol
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Yeah the last thing u want is to be at the track an look in ur rear mirror an see ur rear end blow out I did the 8.8 swap cause i plan on boosting my 6 an it wasn't bad at all it was a direct replacement
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you can probably find one at a junk yard realitivly cheap, it would be well worth it
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you can probably find one at a junk yard realitivly cheap, it would be well worth it
That where I got mine it was off a 05 gt
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:22 PM   #12
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hey WM, nice job on your car, looks nice
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Are there any affordable turbo kits out there?
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hey WM, nice job on your car, looks nice
Thanks bro yours is clean as **** also !
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Yeah 0n3performance.com 1900 base kit
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Yeah 0n3performance.com 1900 base kit
Not including the tuning
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I have heard of that kit. I have also heard mixed reviews about on3 performance. How could a turbo kit for 1900 be quality?
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Well theres no tune. No turbo manifolds. That cuts down the overhead.
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Well theres no tune. No turbo manifolds. That cuts down the overhead.
That still seems way too cheap for a turbo kit.
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Well theres no tune. No turbo manifolds. That cuts down the overhead.
If your going to invest that kind of money buy something that will better your car
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Like what?
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Like what?
Suspension , one piece driveshaft , 8.8 rear end to stand up to the power you want to put up , pretty much everything you should do before you boost your car that way everything will compliment each other an for a turbo kit to be that inexpensive I would be cautious idk how much money you have into your car but if it was my car I wouldn't want anything cheap going under my hood if your going to spend that kind of money but something that is proven an has good consistent reviews I know a guy with a 05 turbo v6 an its all custom done an the turbo is Garrett I'm not sure of the size but he puts down a lot power
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If you are going to spend that much you might as well buy a gt. I'm looking for some inexpensive, yet effective ways to gain some power for my daily driver 6.
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If you are going to spend that much you might as well buy a gt. I'm looking for some inexpensive, yet effective ways to gain some power for my daily driver 6.
Exactly
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If u want big gains, u will either have to sink some money into it, or buy a gt. depends if u plan on keeping your car for a long time, then make the investment. I personally plan on keeping mine, I have exhaust,cai,and tuner, the only other thing i might do is add headers, but i would rather make the apperance nicer, I like to go to car shows, my car turns heads everywhre i go. so i would rather make it look nice, plus i have a little power also.
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Thats the route i went. I hit a small deer and used the money to get a cervini hood and put a GT grill in. And i just put a new bodykit on. I have a few basic power adders. But i might do more yet.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:29 PM   #27
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its hard not to spend money, there is so much you can do to these cars, but im gonna lower mine next, and that will probably it for a while, gotta get ready for the am show next yr.
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