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Old 10-22-2012, 04:36 PM   #1
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Trying to buy S197 4.0. Questions

Have owned many stangs. Just sold my project Mustang and looking for something to use as a daily driver. My search is focused on S197 4.0 cars right now.

Any common issues I can look for? Are they all open diff? I read all are 7.5 3.31, is that correct? How long do the clutches last on manual cars?

I looked at this one. It looks good, drives great, has lingering smoke smell, check engine light is on, and is due for an oil change (just came due according to sticker). I told the guy to get the interior detailed, check the engine light, and change the oil. Told after he completed that to call me. His price seems a little below the going rate for these..

I have loved the S197 body every since it came out. In fact I was going to do an Eleanor clone on one but ended up wrapped in a different project. Right now just looking for a commuter, who knows may buy a 2nd one down the road for that Eleanor clone project

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45K 5psd. Clutch felt good as well as the shifter. I was actually surprised at how it felt. Thought it would feel dogish but it didnt at all.
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Doesn't seem bad. I only gave 8500$ for mine 2 years ago w/33,000 miles. New clutch. Previous owners where morons, attempting to drive standard when neither of them should've been allowed within 100 feet of one. I have the common fuel fill problem out of mine, window tint would get scratched up before I moleskinned the interior piece, parking brake freezes in winter, under stock hood paint was bubbling, don't let that stuff scare ya though. Turn nozzle sideways or upside down to fill quicker. I always just set mine on first setting, take my time filling up. I used the moleskin fix to keep from scratching my window tint. Try to not use my PB in winter now. And the paint bubbling just pop the hood and look, if its there then that's a good reason for an aftermarket hood! I love my 05 v6 5 speed
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I'd make sure to do a complete history on it. I've got the.lemans stripes and there on the front bumper and on the trunk and the bumper on the back. So make sure it wasn't in an accident, and if it checks out ok get a few bucks off for that ding on the side
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Have owned many stangs. Just sold my project Mustang and looking for something to use as a daily driver. My search is focused on S197 4.0 cars right now.

Any common issues I can look for? Are they all open diff? I read all are 7.5 3.31, is that correct? How long do the clutches last on manual cars?

I looked at this one. It looks good, drives great, has lingering smoke smell, check engine light is on, and is due for an oil change (just came due according to sticker). I told the guy to get the interior detailed, check the engine light, and change the oil. Told after he completed that to call me. His price seems a little below the going rate for these..

I have loved the S197 body every since it came out. In fact I was going to do an Eleanor clone on one but ended up wrapped in a different project. Right now just looking for a commuter, who knows may buy a 2nd one down the road for that Eleanor clone project

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What concerns me is the lingering smoke smell unless it is from cigarettes. Cigarete smoke can be fixed with advanced odor removal techniques. With the check engine light on I'd pass unless you have chance to pull the code.
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FYI he had already had the ding fixed when I looked at it. He called today and said the check engine was the evap sensor, and that they detailed it.

I had actually started thinking about something older/cheaper so I could keep some of this money. You guys saying how great these are is swaying me back to looking at this again.
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The 4.0 is a good engine the only issue I had was the thermostat housing cracking at 56K but it's an easy repair to do yourself! I wimped out and paid $300 to have it fixed.

I guess the other was the throttle position sensor. I had an issue with brake drag, but I think that was due to not changing the brake fluid.
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The 4.0 is a good engine the only issue I had was the thermostat housing cracking at 56K but it's an easy repair to do yourself! I wimped out and paid $300 to have it fixed.

I guess the other was the throttle position sensor. I had an issue with brake drag, but I think that was due to not changing the brake fluid.
Me too thermostat housing at 61k miles, but yeah I fixed it myself. Pretty easy! And yeah man the 4.0 is solid!
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Me too thermostat housing at 61k miles, but yeah I fixed it myself. Pretty easy! And yeah man the 4.0 is solid!
It really is much more so than the 3.8 and 3.9 in my opinion. The new 3.7 seems promising so far. Really I don't think you could go wrong with the 4.0, 3.7,and 4.6 all really good Ford Engines. The new 5.0 is getting better!

Mustangs are just great cars I'd buy another one hands down.
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Me too thermostat housing at 61k miles, but yeah I fixed it myself. Pretty easy! And yeah man the 4.0 is solid!
Mine as well around 80k. Got a redneck buddy a pack of cigs and paid for parts only. Like 50 bucks.
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Mine as well around 80k. Got a redneck buddy a pack of cigs and paid for parts only. Like 50 bucks.
Haha that's great!
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Any common issues I can look for? Are they all open diff? I read all are 7.5 3.31, is that correct? How long do the clutches last on manual cars?

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All 2005-2010 Mustangs with the 4.0 have the 7.5" rear end with open differential. If it has anything else then someone swapped the rear end.

As mentioned, the plastic thermostat housing will split. But I was lucky, and mine lasted for 199,881 miles before it gave out. So it is one of those things that you can't tell - many go out early and I was lucky to get a lot of miles and hard use on mine. The engine is very strong; I ran nitrous on the car for 2 seasons, and at 90,000 miles pulled the nitrous off and put the XCharger supercharger on the car. I was at the track when the thermostat housing split and had just made a 12.7 second pass.

I sold the car with 203,000 miles on it when I ordered the 2013 - and it was still making 12 second passes at the track. The new owner says it still runs great and he plans to run it at the track too.
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All 2005-2010 Mustangs with the 4.0 have the 7.5" rear end with open differential. If it has anything else then someone swapped the rear end.

As mentioned, the plastic thermostat housing will split. But I was lucky, and mine lasted for 199,881 miles before it gave out. So it is one of those things that you can't tell - many go out early and I was lucky to get a lot of miles and hard use on mine. The engine is very strong; I ran nitrous on the car for 2 seasons, and at 90,000 miles pulled the nitrous off and put the XCharger supercharger on the car. I was at the track when the thermostat housing split and had just made a 12.7 second pass.

I sold the car with 203,000 miles on it when I ordered the 2013 - and it was still making 12 second passes at the track. The new owner says it still runs great and he plans to run it at the track too.
Any pics of it?. Mine has 125000 on it and its still running strong. Only real problem is the fuel hassle but that's more of an inconvenience
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All 2005-2010 Mustangs with the 4.0 have the 7.5" rear end with open differential. If it has anything else then someone swapped the rear end.

As mentioned, the plastic thermostat housing will split. But I was lucky, and mine lasted for 199,881 miles before it gave out. So it is one of those things that you can't tell - many go out early and I was lucky to get a lot of miles and hard use on mine. The engine is very strong; I ran nitrous on the car for 2 seasons, and at 90,000 miles pulled the nitrous off and put the XCharger supercharger on the car. I was at the track when the thermostat housing split and had just made a 12.7 second pass.

I sold the car with 203,000 miles on it when I ordered the 2013 - and it was still making 12 second passes at the track. The new owner says it still runs great and he plans to run it at the track too.
Wow you got 203,000 did you buy it new?
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Any pics of it?. Mine has 125000 on it and its still running strong. Only real problem is the fuel hassle but that's more of an inconvenience
Have you tried putting gas in it with the nozzle sideways or upside down? Works for mine when it acts up.
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Have you tried putting gas in it with the nozzle sideways or upside down? Works for mine when it acts up.
No but thanks ill try that next time
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Any pics of it?. Mine has 125000 on it and its still running strong. Only real problem is the fuel hassle but that's more of an inconvenience
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Wow you got 203,000 did you buy it new?
I'll start a new thread so we don't complete derail the OP's thread.
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