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Old 10-08-2013, 10:47 AM   #1
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Coilovers vs lowering springs

So as far as I've read, for lowering springs(h&r most likely) I would need:

Springs
caster/camber plates
Adjustable pan hard bar
Upper control arms
Lower control arms
shocks
Struts

For coilovers, I know that I wouldn't need shocks or springs, but would I still need C/C plates, pan hard bar? Upper and lower control arms?

I'm just trying to see what is more cost efficient
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So as far as I've read, for lowering springs(h&r most likely) I would need:

Springs
caster/camber plates
Adjustable pan hard bar
Upper control arms
Lower control arms
shocks
Struts

For coilovers, I know that I wouldn't need shocks or springs, but would I still need C/C plates, pan hard bar? Upper and lower control arms?

I'm just trying to see what is more cost efficient
if you are going cost efficient, than springs are ok. when they start leaking go for shocks. the plates, pan hard bar and control arms do make a difference but they are not a must to if you lower springs by 3-4 cm. not even the shocks won't wear out to soon, you still have a good life on them but combined with lowered springs they do make a great difference
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if you are going cost efficient, than springs are ok. when they start leaking go for shocks. the plates, pan hard bar and control arms do make a difference but they are not a must to if you lower springs by 3-4 cm. not even the shocks won't wear out to soon, you still have a good life on them but combined with lowered springs they do make a great difference
so the h&r supersports lower the car almost 2 inches. Those mods aren't necessary? I read that a guys driveshaft failed because the pinion angle was off due to the stock upper control arms and other things like the rear geometry being thrown off by lowering it like that
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so the h&r supersports lower the car almost 2 inches. Those mods aren't necessary? I read that a guys driveshaft failed because the pinion angle was off due to the stock upper control arms and other things like the rear geometry being thrown off by lowering it like that
I'm currently running H&R SS.. I haven't upgraded the shocks, CC's or panhard bar.
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I'm currently running H&R SS.. I haven't upgraded the shocks, CC's or panhard bar.
Any problems so far? How long have you had them?
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Any problems so far? How long have you had them?
Nope, no problem so far! ( knock on wood ) but I've had them for a little longer than a month.
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so the h&r supersports lower the car almost 2 inches. Those mods aren't necessary? I read that a guys driveshaft failed because the pinion angle was off due to the stock upper control arms and other things like the rear geometry being thrown off by lowering it like that
I have a car that is lowered to the ground for 15 years and i use it hard and nothing but shocks i've changed. And it works great! Trust me, allmost everybody just lower their car. So unless you go to the track and do professional racing where there are some extreme conditions, keep the money for the gas
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Good to know! Thanks for the help guys! I'll probably go with the pan hard bar and c/c plates for safe measures. Then shocks and upper control arms later
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Good to know! Thanks for the help guys! I'll probably go with the pan hard bar and c/c plates for safe measures. Then shocks and upper control arms later
no prob though, with that money for plates, etc, i would add a supercharger
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So as far as I've read, for lowering springs(h&r most likely) I would need:

Springs
caster/camber plates
Adjustable pan hard bar
Upper control arms
Lower control arms
shocks
Struts

For coilovers, I know that I wouldn't need shocks or springs, but would I still need C/C plates, pan hard bar? Upper and lower control arms?

I'm just trying to see what is more cost efficient
PJ Pony has "Roush Extreme Lowering Spring Kit, 2005-2014, GT" for $239.99. It states, "This kit lowers your vehicle 1" in the front and 1.25" in the rear. Further, it says, "This suspension package should be used with the stock Mustang shocks and struts." In other words, it claims that no change in existing stock shocks and struts is needed! I'm thinking of buying these. Can anyone give me their thoughts?
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PJ Pony has "Roush Extreme Lowering Spring Kit, 2005-2014, GT" for $239.99. It states, "This kit lowers your vehicle 1" in the front and 1.25" in the rear. Further, it says, "This suspension package should be used with the stock Mustang shocks and struts." In other words, it claims that no change in existing stock shocks and struts is needed! I'm thinking of buying these. Can anyone give me their thoughts?
anything lowered less than 1.5" is fine. You might need an adjustable pan hard bar to fix the geometry and that's it
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anything lowered less than 1.5" is fine. You might need an adjustable pan hard bar to fix the geometry and that's it
Thanks, Bschmidty. I'll check out the panhard bar.
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Bschmidty: Is it possible to cut the existing springs to lower the car? I have a 2011 GTCS auto convertible and was wondering if this is feasible or not. Could save a bunch of bucks.
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Bschmidty: Is it possible to cut the existing springs to lower the car? I have a 2011 GTCS auto convertible and was wondering if this is feasible or not. Could save a bunch of bucks.
I have little to no knowledge on that, but I have heard of people doing that if I'm not mistaken
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Bschmidty: Is it possible to cut the existing springs to lower the car? I have a 2011 GTCS auto convertible and was wondering if this is feasible or not. Could save a bunch of bucks.
some people do it, many drifters around do that but you must know what you are doing, it will bounce even more if you cut them and you'll hit the ground easily. if you want to go cheap, search for some used ones, it's the best for your radiator and other hanging stuff
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If it was feasible I was going to have a pro do the cutting, but your right plus the old ones may have lost tensile strength etc. I guess I'll go with the Roush springs and possibly a new panhard bar. Thanks.
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