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Old 02-27-2015, 06:58 PM   #36
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I am just stating that I have had both. Maybe not the exact same years but the same car and perhaps engine sizes. I personally liked the Mustang more. Never had a 2005-2010 Mustang but I put my 2 cents in on what I have had. Hope it helped, if not then oh well.


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What doesn't make sense is your comparing two different vehicles, your in a mustang forum therefore it'll be direct answer. Unless you plan to step on it while its rain/ snow you won't have to worry, if I were you I'd start of with a v6 mustang but that's just my opinion my first car was a 4.6 GT and I'm still driving it, I've been getting plenty of compliments. I honestly picture a female driving an eclipse. Let's just say mustangs are funner to drive. I suggest you test drive a mustang first since you already own a eclipse you can compare.


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When i was 17 i wish i had that problem as to what type of car to buy i was still peddling a 10speed..
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So at this point do you want the faster wrong wheel drive car or the car that's rwd slow as hell? I would choose option c if you have one. Hope you haven't overlooked an 11 v6 mustang, hyundai genesis, srt 4, fox body 5.0. Just a couple ideas on some alternatives
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What doesn't make sense is your comparing two different vehicles, your in a mustang forum therefore it'll be direct answer. Unless you plan to step on it while its rain/ snow you won't have to worry, if I were you I'd start of with a v6 mustang but that's just my opinion my first car was a 4.6 GT and I'm still driving it, I've been getting plenty of compliments. I honestly picture a female driving an eclipse. Let's just say mustangs are funner to drive. I suggest you test drive a mustang first since you already own a eclipse you can compare.


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Never been a fan of eclipses.... I would take the Mustang over it. If you aren't into performance it has a lot more potential.
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My advice to you would be this: I wouldn't listen to anyone that demerits the Eclipse based on it being front wheel drive. They aren't making your car payments, filling up your gas tank, or your insurance.

I would check with your insurance company because I'm with Allstate and they will barely insure Mitsubishi. I was trying to buy a Lancer Ralliart and they wanted to DOUBLE my insurance, but with my Mustang, it was like 20 dollars more a month.

That being said, I've been a fan of the Eclipse since the 90s and its a pretty decent car throughout the generations. I haven't heard anything bad about the last generation except that the paint on them is awful. The vast majority of last generation Eclipse that I've seen have a ton of fading, its really awful.

That being said, the v6 in the Mustang for that year is pretty stout and isn't exactly a slouch. It'll still run a mid 15 second quarter mile time, which is respectable for a first car. Its about on par with an early 4.6 Mustang GT.

The issue you're going to run in to is the Eclipse is discontinued and MItsubishi dealerships are sort of hard to come by. So parts availability may be a problem. I would probably lean towards the Eclipse, to be honest though because it is easier to drive in rain and snow. Driving a rear wheel drive car takes some getting to use it. The way it handles in conditions, and rotates during handling is different than a FWD car. Dramatically, in fact.

As far as your hydroplaning, it sounds like you have some learning to do as a driver. Also, get some decent tires on your car for Christ sake.

If you need any more help, feel free to PM me.

When it comes to debating what is a better sporting car, RWD vs FWD, the advantages of RWD consists of things you shouldn't be doing at 17. Believe me. It isn't an insult, you'll just continue to grow as a driver. Both cars will get you chicks (or dudes), so you'll be golden either way.
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True To be honest both cars are preferred by females. I wish ford never created v6 mustangs.


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Honestly, if you're asking this question, either one sounds perfect for you. A) a slow car that looks alright, or B) a quicker car that is an eclipse.

Honestly, you don't know how to drive rear wheel drive. It isn't difficult, but you crashed your current one twice. Although I don't like to think we may drive on the same roads, I'd rather you be in the slower car. Especially with the auto, you shouldn't have any problems if you don't try to "show off" and do something extremely stupid and kill someone, yourself, or wreck your car.

I don't care for eclipses. I appreciate their performance, but FF is boring to me. VERY dreary. But, I wouldn't want a pre 2011 Mustang. Not a 65, not a 2010, nothing in between. If I were you, which I was 17 at one point, I would buy a total piece of junk that was reliable to drive around. Which is what I did. I drove it (1997 champagne escort sedan), sold it and bought another piece of junk that I liked better(1989 Blazer 4x4), then when I inherited a 1995 escort (PINK!!!!), I kept that until it died. My dealer was GENEROUS giving me 500 for it. And that's when I bought a 2012 brand new, later fitted by Roush.

So if you want the max you can possibly afford, to waste every penny you can on, get the eclipse. One less Mustang to be posted by a member that has fake vents and stripes and wings and obscene taillights and what not. If you want a decent car to get you by, and be smarter with your money, buy a Camry, and when you have a decent job, bills under control, and are fairly stable... Trade it in for 500 (500 less than you should have paid 3-5 years prior) and get the car you really want, can be proud of, and pass on to children or grand children.

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Save up and get anything BUT a 4.0 haha...

I can confirm the base model 4.0's did NOT get a rear sway bar (Pony Package did come with one though).

I can't afford the insurance on a v8 mustang. So I would rather have an '05 or '06 mustang with the pony package. 4.0 obviously.


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He did say>



Apparently he is on a tight budget. He needs to get what he can afford to buy, He also is thinking of insurance and probably maintenance.



I'm thinking he will have way more fun owning a Mustang then a boring ,ugly Eclipse even if some of you think the Eclipse is faster. Who cares about that when your on a tight budget and are young enough to enjoy your car. Not everybody races or does a burnout at every stoplight. He can drive the V6 older Mustang until he gets to making more $$$$ and trade up someday. It will still be worth more then the Eclipse in two or three years unless he screws it up.



He can mod the Mustang to look like he wants it to look and as far as being fast, It will be fast enough and good looking enough to go pick up a girl without being laughed at by driving an old ladies car.



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Exactly! Thank your for realizing that I'm not a rich 17 year old who can just go out and buy a bbk cai and a $400 tuner. I don't know a lot when it comes to customizing cars under the hood other than replacing the throttle body, CAI, and a few other little trinkets. I don't want or need a mustang that has 450hp after all the mods. The v6 mustang and my v6 eclipse both have 210 hp and are plenty fast, especially until I can save up for a better car. 👌


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So at this point do you want the faster wrong wheel drive car or the car that's rwd slow as hell? I would choose option c if you have one. Hope you haven't overlooked an 11 v6 mustang, hyundai genesis, srt 4, fox body 5.0. Just a couple ideas on some alternatives

To me, fwd isn't a "wrong wheel drive" since I'm used to it in my gen 3 eclipse. I mean, I'm looking for speed and Beauty. Eclipse has more hp, but mustang has the looks and many more aftermarket parts, but has 210hp ( which is enough for me to be honest )


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Honestly, if you're asking this question, either one sounds perfect for you. A) a slow car that looks alright, or B) a quicker car that is an eclipse.

Honestly, you don't know how to drive rear wheel drive. It isn't difficult, but you crashed your current one twice. Although I don't like to think we may drive on the same roads, I'd rather you be in the slower car. Especially with the auto, you shouldn't have any problems if you don't try to "show off" and do something extremely stupid and kill someone, yourself, or wreck your car.

I don't care for eclipses. I appreciate their performance, but FF is boring to me. VERY dreary. But, I wouldn't want a pre 2011 Mustang. Not a 65, not a 2010, nothing in between. If I were you, which I was 17 at one point, I would buy a total piece of junk that was reliable to drive around. Which is what I did. I drove it (1997 champagne escort sedan), sold it and bought another piece of junk that I liked better(1989 Blazer 4x4), then when I inherited a 1995 escort (PINK!!!!), I kept that until it died. My dealer was GENEROUS giving me 500 for it. And that's when I bought a 2012 brand new, later fitted by Roush.

So if you want the max you can possibly afford, to waste every penny you can on, get the eclipse. One less Mustang to be posted by a member that has fake vents and stripes and wings and obscene taillights and what not. If you want a decent car to get you by, and be smarter with your money, buy a Camry, and when you have a decent job, bills under control, and are fairly stable... Trade it in for 500 (500 less than you should have paid 3-5 years prior) and get the car you really want, can be proud of, and pass on to children or grand children.

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Not this it makes to much of a difference, but only 1 of the 2 accidents were my fault. The second time, a woman ran a stop sign in the rain, but the front driver side fender kissed my front bumper. Neither accidents totaled my car, not even close. I've still had the same 2000, gen 3 black eclipse for 2 years. As far as looks, I love the mustang for that, even if it has only 210 hp, same as my eclipse, it's fast enough for me, at 17 and will still look good with the right mods and aftermarket appearance parts.


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You answered your own question from the start why not keep your 2000 eclipse ? && That was indeed great advice I myself took it in consideration I am 19. My first and only car was a 1996 GT I paid 5 k bought it when I was 17, and I'm saving for a newer mustang. I'm assuming your about to graduate from high school so yeah fwd isn't a bad choice.


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Not this it makes to much of a difference, but only 1 of the 2 accidents were my fault. The second time, a woman ran a stop sign in the rain, but the front driver side fender kissed my front bumper. Neither accidents totaled my car, not even close. I've still had the same 2000, gen 3 black eclipse for 2 years. As far as looks, I love the mustang for that, even if it has only 210 hp, same as my eclipse, it's fast enough for me, at 17 and will still look good with the right mods and aftermarket appearance parts.


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That's a great point there, in you completely missing my point. When I was young and more so stupid, my mechanic gave me some great advice. "If you're going to put money into your car, make sure it's something that will keep it's value. Don't get a paint job, get a sound system. If you're going to modify it, make sure you can get some money out of it if it's totaled."

He was talking about my $1k 1989 Blazer. As much as it sucked driving a pink escort hatch in college and end of high school, it didn't stop me from...succeeding at things...and left me a lot of money for things that matter.

Most of that mod list you posted usually doesn't do much. Not for the HP/dollar.

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That's a great point there, in you completely missing my point. When I was young and more so stupid, my mechanic gave me some great advice. "If you're going to put money into your car, make sure it's something that will keep it's value. Don't get a paint job, get a sound system. If you're going to modify it, make sure you can get some money out of it if it's totaled."

He was talking about my $1k 1989 Blazer. As much as it sucked driving a pink escort hatch in college and end of high school, it didn't stop me from...succeeding at things...and left me a lot of money for things that matter.

Most of that mod list you posted usually doesn't do much. Not for the HP/dollar.

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My mustang only has 70 k miles a 20 year old engine lol. You guys should send pictures of you're rides


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That's a great point there, in you completely missing my point. When I was young and more so stupid, my mechanic gave me some great advice. "If you're going to put money into your car, make sure it's something that will keep it's value. Don't get a paint job, get a sound system. If you're going to modify it, make sure you can get some money out of it if it's totaled."

He was talking about my $1k 1989 Blazer. As much as it sucked driving a pink escort hatch in college and end of high school, it didn't stop me from...succeeding at things...and left me a lot of money for things that matter.

Most of that mod list you posted usually doesn't do much. Not for the HP/dollar.

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Keep a crappy car until I can get everything through straight and trade it in, and buy a much nicer car, when I can afford it. That was your point right?

Affording the car isn't really the problem. So far, in total I have about $13,000, not including the money I get from selling my eclipse. it's which car to set money away for..

I do also put money in other things besides paint jobs. It's not a lot, and they are little things, but I put subwoofers and a new stereo, new brake pedal covers. Things i could retrieve, if my car was ever totaled.


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A few things I'll add is props to you for not using all (or even 1/2) your $ on a car at any stage of your life but your 1st "cool" car is something you will always remember. It's amazing how many people give me props on my Stang (2011-V6) Mustangs have a great history. I think the Eclipse may be a somewhat faster/more reliable car but doubt it is a great difference. As mentioned B4 drive them and pick the one that is a better fit.

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I didn't have any money when I bought my first car. As in, I didn't earn it. Every year at all the holidays since I was born, my father took money from what I got, and put it in an account. So when I was turning 16, I had a fee grand available. Although I could afford a more expensive vehicle, he was right, and went with the 1k escort. Asked 1600, accepted 1k. It is nice to see you aren't wasting all your money and being stupid with it, but I would personally get a decent beater and ride it out until you can get exactly what you want. Have you looked at Mazda 6s? Honestly, I think I that would be your best bet. Not as easy to customize as a Mustang, but WAY more unique. Everything else about equal, besides price.

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I didn't have any money when I bought my first car. As in, I didn't earn it. Every year at all the holidays since I was born, my father took money from what I got, and put it in an account. So when I was turning 16, I had a fee grand available. Although I could afford a more expensive vehicle, he was right, and went with the 1k escort. Asked 1600, accepted 1k. It is nice to see you aren't wasting all your money and being stupid with it, but I would personally get a decent beater and ride it out until you can get exactly what you want. Have you looked at Mazda 6s? Honestly, I think I that would be your best bet. Not as easy to customize as a Mustang, but WAY more unique. Everything else about equal, besides price.

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A few things I'll add is props to you for not using all (or even 1/2) your $ on a car at any stage of your life but your 1st "cool" car is something you will always remember. It's amazing how many people give me props on my Stang (2011-V6) Mustangs have a great history. I think the Eclipse may be a somewhat faster/more reliable car but doubt it is a great difference. As mentioned B4 drive them and pick the one that is a better fit.

edit: respect to Strata for a great post.

Thanks, I really appreciate it my mom raised me pretty good as far as money goes. And I love the mustang body styles between '05 and '14, especially '10- '14. I think ford did a wonderful job on a lot of their mustangs. I'm not of a fan of any of them before 2005, ( besides the '65 V8) and not to fond of the looks of the '15, do anything between those years, are good lol


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Here's my opinion, if you can keep what you have for a 2-3 more years, your insurance will most likely drop.

At that point you could probably get in an S197 GT (05-09) perhaps the 11 V6 for roughly the same insurance rate your at now. It will also allow you to save a bit more.

Let's assume you can't wait for whatever reason..

Then I think the 4.0 is a great start, as it has an abundance of parts available, it's affordable, and has just enough power that you can't get in trouble.
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The 4.0L V6 sounds like a good car for you OP, and will seem fast for you, hard to really get in any trouble(although I have a friend that could dispute that.)

The only issue is that you would be coming from FF to an FR vehicle. Rear wheel drive is an entirely different handling profile. Although, I didn't have issues transitioning from my slow as sh*t learning car (09 Pontiac Vibe) to my car when I got my license (13 GT Premium, bought new with me putting 50% down).

Granted, I've never had accidents and have taken driving courses.

The latter also goes into saving, since you have enough, you can buy a 4.0L Mustang, most are cheaper than 12K.
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