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Old 04-28-2015, 10:19 PM   #36
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I wouldnt mind keeping it auto I just assumed that the torque and horsepower I wanted would damage the auto tran.
I have a built TCI auto and converter with a TCI Ratchet shifter...shifts just like a stick but way faster....I don't need no stinking clutch.
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I wouldnt mind keeping it auto I just assumed that the torque and horsepower I wanted would damage the auto tran.

Most cars that are high horsepower are automatics. Manual transmissions are the ones most likely to cause issues when you have high power levels.


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Most cars that are high horsepower are automatics. Manual transmissions are the ones most likely to cause issues when you have high power levels.


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So is the auto tran better for performance then? I read that earlier in this forum about the auto tran and it just puzzles me. I was always told manual was better for performance.


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So is the auto tran better for performance then? I read that earlier in this forum about the auto tran and it just puzzles me. I was always told manual was better for performance.


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Think of this, what is the most used trans in drag racing? What is the most use in circuits? What are the modern performance cars using the most? It wasn't like it was back in the 60s. The auto has come a long way.


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So is the auto tran better for performance then? I read that earlier in this forum about the auto tran and it just puzzles me. I was always told manual was better for performance.


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Drag racing: Auto all the way....no one credible will dispute that.
Road racing: Stick is more rugged and controllable but a good built auto with a ratchet shifter and good cooler will also work.
I'm over 800 crank HP and an auto does it all for me.
You will need a good auto trans tune that provides engine braking in high gear to make this work, but that's no big deal.
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Think of this, what is the most used trans in drag racing? What is the most use in circuits? What are the modern performance cars using the most? It wasn't like it was back in the 60s. The auto has come a long way.


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Depends.

Drag racing: Auto all the way....no one credible will dispute that.

Road racing: Stick is more rugged and controllable but a good built auto with a ratchet shifter and good cooler will also work.

I'm over 800 crank HP and an auto does it all for me.

You will need a good auto trans tune that provides engine braking in high gear to make this work, but that's no big deal.

I never knew that auto tran was the choice for drag racers! Most people I know that drag race use a manual. I always thought manual was the choice since Ford makes the GT and it's Shelbys manual only. I met this one girl here at my college who is in the automotive engineering program and she does drag racing. She told me it isn't a real mustang unless it's a manual.


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I never knew that auto tran was the choice for drag racers! Most people I know that drag race use a manual. I always thought manual was the choice since Ford makes the GT and it's Shelbys manual only. I met this one girl here at my college who is in the automotive engineering program and she does drag racing. She told me it isn't a real mustang unless it's a manual.


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Drag racing 101:
500 hp stick car vs 500 hp auto car; Auto wins every time. EVERY TIME.
Street racers like to row the gears, the facts are they just are not as fast.
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I never knew that auto tran was the choice for drag racers! Most people I know that drag race use a manual. I always thought manual was the choice since Ford makes the GT and it's Shelbys manual only. I met this one girl here at my college who is in the automotive engineering program and she does drag racing. She told me it isn't a real mustang unless it's a manual.


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Your friend isn't very bright to be honest... Automatics shift faster and take human error out of the equation for the most part
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There is now a stick only class because pound for pound they just can not compete with an auto car. Any body who knows anything about drag racing knows this.
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Buddy of mine has an 800 rwhp GT500 and went to an auto and shaved almost a half second off his ET. They are also easier to launch and way easier on drive train parts.
Autos are just better for drag racing...that's not opinion, that's the way it is.
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Learn something new everyday! Thank you gentlemen for the useful knowledge, it will help me out in future buys!


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I like my manual just cus I like to shift :p

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Buddy of mine has an 800 rwhp GT500 and went to an auto and shaved almost a half second off his ET. They are also easier to launch and way easier on drive train parts.
Autos are just better for drag racing...that's not opinion, that's the way it is.
Guy on the Corral turned a 10.5 second turbo 2V putting down 680whp through the stick into a high 9 second car with an auto swap/converter. NO OTHER CHANGES. And that was with the computer doing all the shifting. That's just one example.


To the original poster: Recon was just being brutally honest as I think has been explained obviously. If you want a stick, trade yours in on a stick. If not, have a shift kit/converter put in, do the bolt ons and a tune. Then power adder later on.


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How good you are with a stick matters. If you know your car, and I mean know your car. Any real stick driver will do better then a auto. People who do better with a auto can't drive a stick well enough. And that isn't a slam to anyone. Its a talent. Some people are just better at it then others. With that said. Stock manual isn't the way to go if you want to race. You need to really research clutches and transmissions. Its a gonna be pricey

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How good you are with a stick matters. If you know your car, and I mean know your car. Any real stick driver will do better then a auto. People who do better with a auto can't drive a stick well enough. And that isn't a slam to anyone. Its a talent. Some people are just better at it then others. With that said. Stock manual isn't the way to go if you want to race. You need to really research clutches and transmissions. Its a gonna be pricey

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Nope, the best stick shift drivers in the world cannot outshift a good auto. Not even going into the benefits of a good converter over a clutch during a launch.

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Automatic transmission changing to Manual.

Autos will shifter faster than any one can with a manual. I love a manual trans but that is the truth. Autos are better in terms of a more consistent run, lowers risk of driver error. Manual has more risks. It's the truth now if you accept it that is a different story.
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No reason for that, but I guess some people can't handle the truth.


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Damn mods werefast on that one. I don't understand why people can't just know the truth about their cars.
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Anyway back on topic...
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How good you are with a stick matters. If you know your car, and I mean know your car. Any real stick driver will do better then a auto. People who do better with a auto can't drive a stick well enough. And that isn't a slam to anyone. Its a talent. Some people are just better at it then others. With that said. Stock manual isn't the way to go if you want to race. You need to really research clutches and transmissions. Its a gonna be pricey

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Horse pucky.
Like I said, auto is always faster. Always. Anyone credible won't dispute this.
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Foul language?

I feel like I missed something here...
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Foul language?

I feel like I missed something here...

Yeah apparently we missed the party. Someone got upset but mods were on it quickly
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Yeah apparently we missed the party. Someone got upset but mods were on it quickly
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Its taken care of.

But like I always say, you can spot the internet racers real easy by the posts talking about how much better the stick cars are at the track than the autos.
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Its taken care of.

But like I always say, you can spot the internet racers real easy by the posts talking about how much better the stick cars are at the track than the autos.
There are many red flags...that's certainly one of them.
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There are many red flags...that's certainly one of them.
It was the most colorful thing I have ever had towards me on here lol. Daily driving in my conditions with no racing I would take a stock every time though
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It was the most colorful thing I have ever had towards me on here lol. Daily driving in my conditions with no racing I would take a stock every time though
Sticks are definitely more fun....
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Sticks are definitely more fun....

Unless it's your DD and a synchro or shift fork starts to go bad.........


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Unless it's your DD and a synchro or shift fork starts to go bad.........


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It was the most colorful thing I have ever had towards me on here lol. Daily driving in my conditions with no racing I would take a stock every time though

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That's not entirely correct, stick will still win unless the auto is built or tuned, drag racers use autos but you can power shift with a stick. Still a bit quicker.


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