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Old 03-06-2012, 03:46 AM   #1
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Re: 2011 Mustang vs stage 2 sti

Impressive imo. I love subies. I wonder how theyd match up on the track, id probably put my money on the awd sti.

Boxer engines sound wicked
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Impressive imo. I love subies. I wonder how theyd match up on the track, id probably put my money on the awd sti.

Boxer engines sound wicked
Oh ya. Me to they're nice I like them but once on a track the sti owns the mustang. It's like the Evo 8 vs a Lamborghini. Long run lambo has it but on the track the Evo with less hp and size can take the lambo run for it money.
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Actually the v6 stang has a better lap time then the new evo and the sti according to car n drivers lightning lap. We are even faster than a 350z Nismo!
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Actually the v6 stang has a better lap time then the new evo and the sti according to car n drivers lightning lap. We are even faster than a 350z Nismo!
....tha f*** is this??? Thats surprising.

Wonder how it'd play out on the top gear test track........
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I know and it makes subaru look even worse because we have a solid rear axle too!! Ford has really stepped up their game!
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=o wats done to that mustang, last time i was at the track i rced an evo 8 and once he hit 3rd gear he was gone
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I know and it makes subaru look even worse because we have a solid rear axle too!! Ford has really stepped up their game!
Isnt a live axle better for putting down straight line power?
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Both cars were stock. But yes a live axle is better for straight line power but it might as well just be independent because ford really engineered it so well you cant even tell its a straight axle unless your going over railroad tracks.

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We cant top the older evo just the new one because it weighs more and is less proportioned
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I would imagine your gearing matters also. The v6 stock gears blow. The transmission is probably geared too steep and the rear axle isn't steep enough.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:46 AM   #12
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What's a stage 2 STI? STI's sure are nice though.. And they sound awesome! I actually ran into an STI meet the other day. Funny how they were all checking out my stang though.. I know they were jealous! haha
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My guess is stage 2 just means an upgraded turbo and springs. But yeah the stock gears blow performance wise but in all reality im starting to like my 2.73's because when im commuting i get such good gas mpg. As far as the trans being to steep thats a good thing because if you choose to go to 3.73's or 4.10's you can really lay the power down! I was blown away and really mad when ford chose 2.73's for the auto but now that i have one and gas is 3.70 and rising im really starting to understand why they did it and im really thankful they did.

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Plus a gear swap is such a simple upgrade. You could easy keep up with auto gt's if you swap some 3.73's or 4.10's in.
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My guess is stage 2 just means an upgraded turbo and springs. But yeah the stock gears blow performance wise but in all reality im starting to like my 2.73's because when im commuting i get such good gas mpg. As far as the trans being to steep thats a good thing because if you choose to go to 3.73's or 4.10's you can really lay the power down! I was blown away and really mad when ford chose 2.73's for the auto but now that i have one and gas is 3.70 and rising im really starting to understand why they did it and im really thankful they did.

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Plus a gear swap is such a simple upgrade. You could easy keep up with auto gt's if you swap some 3.73's or 4.10's in.
You're in Atlanta area, right? Next meetup, I'll show you my 3.73 gears
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Ok im not gonna lie i keep seeing this gear swap stuff and im confused wat is 3.73 and 4.10 gears wat do they do and how do u put them in
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They are a ring and pinion that spins in your rear differential/axle that is what makes your rear wheels spin. We have stock 2.73's (performance pack 3.31's) meaning our driveshaft has to turn 2.7 times for one full tire spin. So the lower the gear like 2.73's the lower the accel will be but the higher the top end and fuel econ will be because the engine is doing less work where as 4.10's your engine is working harder and your driveshaft is spinning 4.1 times for every wheel spin. Meaning more torque is being put down and acceleration improves but fuel econ and top speed suffers. Gears matter a whole lot. This is why rangers fuel econ is about the same as a f-150. If you have a 4 cylinder ranger that has 4.10 gears the engine will be working a lot more and getting a lot less mpg

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Great sounds good! Id love to go for a ride with you to see the difference because i have my 3.73's just sitting in the box debating if its worth risking the warranty for the tune to go with the 3.73's
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They are a ring and pinion that spins in your rear differential/axle that is what makes your rear wheels spin. We have stock 2.73's (performance pack 3.31's) meaning our driveshaft has to turn 2.7 times for one full tire spin. So the lower the gear like 2.73's the lower the accel will be but the higher the top end and fuel econ will be because the engine is doing less work where as 4.10's your engine is working harder and your driveshaft is spinning 4.1 times for every wheel spin. Meaning more torque is being put down and acceleration improves but fuel econ and top speed suffers. Gears matter a whole lot. This is why rangers fuel econ is about the same as a f-150. If you have a 4 cylinder ranger that has 4.10 gears the engine will be working a lot more and getting a lot less mpg

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Great sounds good! Id love to go for a ride with you to see the difference because i have my 3.73's just sitting in the box debating if its worth risking the warranty for the tune to go with the 3.73's
Thank you sooo much now to look into some 4.10's lol, is there a package i can get that has everythin i need? Is the install hard?
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so does the performance waste more gas?
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You need to go to a shop that specializes in drivelines. The dealers are too expensive and inexperienced with differentials (only do maybe one in a month) and its not something you want to do yourself with no rear end experience. I got a quote for 250 for the labor only so anything over 400 is way too much. But you will need a tune with your gears to correct your speedo so i suggest an SCT tuner from bama performance. Best bang for the buck and lifetime tunes.

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Also depending on how new your car is (under 30k) all youll need is the ring and pinion gear. After 30k you might want to get new bearings and a gasket. Most are sold pretty cheap. They are called rear end install kits. Check out summit racing
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You need to go to a shop that specializes in drivelines. The dealers are too expensive and inexperienced with differentials (only do maybe one in a month) and its not something you want to do yourself with no rear end experience. I got a quote for 250 for the labor only so anything over 400 is way too much. But you will need a tune with your gears to correct your speedo so i suggest an SCT tuner from bama performance. Best bang for the buck and lifetime tunes.

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Also depending on how new your car is (under 30k) all youll need is the ring and pinion gear. After 30k you might want to get new bearings and a gasket. Most are sold pretty cheap. They are called rear end install kits. Check out summit racing
Ok kool thanks, my cars got 9k so i guess im good lol
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They are a ring and pinion that spins in your rear differential/axle that is what makes your rear wheels spin. We have stock 2.73's (performance pack 3.31's) meaning our driveshaft has to turn 2.7 times for one full tire spin. So the lower the gear like 2.73's the lower the accel will be but the higher the top end and fuel econ will be because the engine is doing less work where as 4.10's your engine is working harder and your driveshaft is spinning 4.1 times for every wheel spin. Meaning more torque is being put down and acceleration improves but fuel econ and top speed suffers. Gears matter a whole lot. This is why rangers fuel econ is about the same as a f-150. If you have a 4 cylinder ranger that has 4.10 gears the engine will be working a lot more and getting a lot less mpg

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Great sounds good! Id love to go for a ride with you to see the difference because i have my 3.73's just sitting in the box debating if its worth risking the warranty for the tune to go with the 3.73's
Depends on how you drive your car. If you do a lot of highway driving, you might want to pass on them. My gas mileage with the performance tune is about 20mpg with 50/50 highway and city driving. I probably get around 24 or so mpg highway now.
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