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Old 04-07-2012, 03:19 AM   #1
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This is my first post to this forum, so I'll give a little background info. I've always been an import guy, but I've also always said that if the domestics would give me something worth buying, I would buy it. Well, I think the new S197 mustangs are my opportunity to put my money where my mouth is.

I plan on purchasing a V6 mustang with the performance pack from the local Base Exchange new car sales (my circumstances are exactly like USAF2754's). I was just wondering if you guys think this generation v6 will ever reach a classic collector's status. I think the Boss 302 and the GT are future classics, but will people see a v6 25 years from now as something special?
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This is my first post to this forum, so I'll give a little background info. I've always been an import guy, but I've also always said that if the domestics would give me something worth buying, I would buy it. Well, I think the new S197 mustangs are my opportunity to put my money where my mouth is.

I plan on purchasing a V6 mustang with the performance pack from the local Base Exchange new car sales (my circumstances are exactly like USAF2754's). I was just wondering if you guys think this generation v6 will ever reach a classic collector's status. I think the Boss 302 and the GT are future classics, but will people see a v6 25 years from now as something special?
As far as becoming a "Classic!.." I would say that is something the V6 will not be, due to the fact it would be "competing" against such Mustangs as the Mach1, Bullitt, Terminators ('03-'04 Cobras), The BOSS 302, and various Shelby's, Roush, and Saleen Mustangs!.. Not bashing on the V6, just never seen a base model of any car become a "classic!.."
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As far as becoming a "Classic!.." I would say that is something the V6 will not be, due to the fact it would be "competing" against such Mustangs as the Mach1, Bullitt, Terminators ('03-'04 Cobras), The BOSS 302, and various Shelby's, Roush, and Saleen Mustangs!.. Not bashing on the V6, just never seen a base model of any car become a "classic!.."
Agreed. The 6 is a great car but I don't see out being a classic that's for sure. I don't even really see the gt being a classic really... The boss probably will.
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The 2010 GT will be a "Rare Classic". The only year to have the old 4.6 in the '10 body style. And how can you tell the 10' GT apart from the '11 & '12? The '10 is the only on to come with a black pony on the grille.
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I was in the same boat as you cyclone, i was a nissan guy. When this mustang came out i just couldnt find anything from the japs that could compare. I used to live across the river from detroit, everyone drove big 3 but i never liked any, they were nice but something was always off. For the stangs it was the interior. That all changed with this new gen of ford.

As for classic status, you all may be right, but you cant always think traditionally. As a v6 owner in no way do i think it will someday be worth a ton of money, but i baby my car, i plan to keep it for decades. My work is a 15 minute walk away so i normally dont drive, i park it in garage for winters, and if i leave it outside for the night i cover it. Its basically a weekend car. If i move further from work i will use my winter ride (99 qx4).

The 3.7 is the first to ever produce 30mpg and 300hp. It really is a moment in histlry for mustang. Bmw and audi etc are going from v10s to 8s and 8s to 6s with turbos. I dont believe this is a repeat of the 70s gas crisis but more of a technological awakening.

In 50 years, maybe hummers will be worth tons, or maybe priuses, we cant predict it. The car enthusiast culture is dying though. Im 23 and can already see my friends and the generation after me is becoming so lame. They are becoming social media enthusiasts...all about gossip and rumours and bs instead of shutting up and wrenching or going to car meets. This is why guys like us come here, it puts hair on your chest.

If you want to make a car "investment" go for rare. Thats really all that matters. Throw a 2012 corolla in a garage and never use it for 50 years. Theres so many idiots buying those pieces of crap then they go to trash. Thats what cars are to people nowadays, appliances.
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great, another cyclone.. lol
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great, another cyclone.. lol
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Re: Future classic status

we need more mustangs and less pos imports.
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we need more mustangs and less pos imports.
You mean like Dodge Challengers and Chevy Camaros, lol. I kid; but seriously, those cars are built in Canada.
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You mean like Dodge Challengers and Chevy Camaros, lol. I kid; but seriously, those cars are built in Canada.
Yeah, so?
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Yeah, so?
I'm just joking around. I'm just glad that we live in a time when we can buy brand new muscle and pony cars, no matter where they are built, or what country owns the company. We benefit from GMs, Fords, and Chryslers being sold to China and now Korea just as China benefits by building the components that go into American vehicles. I get a chuckle when somebody says POS imports, because I'm not sure if we know what that means anymore. We all know how this debate plays out, so let's just avoid it and say that Ford is truly kicking *** right now, and we hope it continues.
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Lol i was yanking your chain. The camaro is built in oshawa ontario and challenger in brampton ontario. Im proud my car was made in michigan...as it has been for the last 48 years......

If its got a 1 as the first digit of the vin its made in usa, a 2...canada.

Whats hilarious is the people i see driving around here with "out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign" bumper stickers, meanwhile the ford fusion they drive is built in mexico. And they build corollas and civics here in ontario....some people are so ignorant.
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I see the v6 as being a classic car that people want in 25 yrs. People are still restoring and buying the original inline 6 mustangs so why wouldnt ours be the same 40+ yrs from now? Gotta remember not everyone that restores or buys classic cars do it for performance. A lot of people do it just because they enjoy old cars.
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Our cars are definitely a breakthrough in V6 performance on the mustang. Will be in the future mustang history books for sure. Idk about classic but I'm sure it'll be remembered.
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Unless you have a number plate car that was a limited production there isn't any such thing as a true collector's car anymore... the factories produce too many!
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Yes but how many will be left in 40 years unabused not wrecked and in running condition
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Yes but how many will be left in 40 years unabused not wrecked and in running condition
Only time will truly tell!.. But if past is a predictor of the future then no!.. Not even the Mustang GT will fall into that category!.. I say love your car for what it is right now!.. And not what it may or may not be in the future!...
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I see the v6 as being a classic car that people want in 25 yrs. People are still restoring and buying the original inline 6 mustangs so why wouldnt ours be the same 40+ yrs from now? Gotta remember not everyone that restores or buys classic cars do it for performance. A lot of people do it just because they enjoy old cars.
Biggest problem with that is the I6 cars are worth very little compared to the higher performing versions.
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Re: Future classic status

one day FAR FAR FAR FAR from now sure they will be rare (as with anything) and classic. In terms of collectability it can vary as they are making a ton of them... but they made a ton generation 1 mustangs, they are collectible but there are so many you can find one easily.

If you want something that will make money years from now dont invest in cars lol, if you must it will have to be VERY VERY rare AND wanted.
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Maybe worth less money but still highly desireable. Ten bucks says our v6 will outlast the 5.0 for longevity. Its built better and hasnt had one single failure with custom tunes. The 5.0 cylinder 8 issue is widely known. Who knows we might be driving the next "Ford 300/4.9" and not even know it yet!
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the 03/04 cobras were made to the tune of nearly 20k of them but less than compared to the GT500s that are out there. Even then only the rare ones are getting premiums now, it will take many more years before the market bottoms out and turns around, must like the 93 cobra has done~
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Im ready for a new 2014 four cylinder stang so we 2011-12 owners can jump up and down and say man we bought ours at the right time!!! And we are faster than the 14's. Lol
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Im ready for a new 2014 four cylinder stang so we 2011-12 owners can jump up and down and say man we bought ours at the right time!!! And we are faster than the 14's. Lol
I don't know that you will... The engine for this years rs focus is said to be the testing grounds for the new gen car. The engine makes 320hp and 298tq. That added to the weight loss will make it one quick pony.
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Yeah but our 3.7's are pretty detuned stock and leave a lot of room for improvement where as the new turbo 4 will be pretty much maxxed out from the factory. Also durability and longevity wise ours will outlast it by a mile. Forced induction is torture for a motor.

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I don't know that you will... The engine for this years rs focus is said to be the testing grounds for the new gen car. The engine makes 320hp and 298tq. That added to the weight loss will make it one quick pony.
The engine has 247hp and 250lb-ft. Where did you get 320 from?
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Yeah but our 3.7's are pretty detuned stock and leave a lot of room for improvement where as the new turbo 4 will be pretty much maxxed out from the factory. Also durability and longevity wise ours will outlast it by a mile. Forced induction is torture for a motor.

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The engine has 247hp and 250lb-ft. Where did you get 320 from?
Rusts the st. Rs is probably going top be euro spec only.
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Yep no rs for America. Our regulations are too strick. Plus the rs is a 2.5 turbo five cylinder
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Yep no rs for America. Our regulations are too strick. Plus the rs is a 2.5 turbo five cylinder
The 2009-2011 rd was. This is a new engine and a new car. I've seen numbers as high as 350hp, as low as 300. Check out out on google. Its gonna be a nasty piece and it will be a great engine for the new gen mustang.
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I couldnt find a focus rd. If you meant rs its the five cylinder with 305 hp only for Europe
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I couldnt find a focus rd. If you meant rs its the five cylinder with 305 hp only for Europe
There is a new rs sorry my phone auto corrected. the new car its a 2.0t
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Oh okay couldnt find it. Post a link if u can
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