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Old 04-11-2012, 05:44 PM   #1
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So when I bought my car I became aware of the new 5000 mile oil change. When I questioned it I was told that it's a synthetic oil used to last longer. Well I'm at the dealership for my first oil change and my sticker has 3000 miles to next oil change. I questioned them on why and they said its my preference. So I inquired about the different oil and they told me its all the same oil no matter the miles???? Can someone tell me what the truth is?
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I believe our cars have 10,000mile oil change intervals. First oil change I'd probably do earlier but I usually check it every now and then to see how it looks. Best to check it yourself rather then what a computer or whatever says. That's just me
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Ford says 10,000 miles but id change it every 7-8,000 just to be safe if its synthetic. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use synthetic on a new car if you plan on keeping it. Keeps the engine cleaner and def extends the life of your car.
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Look at the owner manual for the recommendation - and remember that Ford is the one who has to warranty the engine against damage.

The oil change places - including the dealer shop - are in the business of SELLING YOU OIL so of course they want you to change it more frequently than necessary.

I have a 2006, it is a 4.0L V6 with 200,500 miles on it (with the supercharger since 90,000). I never changed the oil before 5,000 miles and have been stretching it out longer based upon the oil analysis I do with Blackstone labs about every third oil change. The results of the tests said it could go longer between changes and I am at 7,500 between changes now and the car is running strong with no abnormal wear showing up in the analysis.
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U also have a lot of highway miles too. Constant engine speed equals constant oil flow
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When to change oil is VERY dependent on the type of driving you do and the environment in which you drive. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, you will need to change the oil more often. If you live in an area that has high levels of dust or high temperatures, you will need to change more often. Lots of continuous highway driving puts less stress on the oil which allows for longer life.

Ford recommends 10000 miles but that is also a measure that should support most people. You may need to change sooner than that or you may be able to go the full 10K. Only true way to tell is to have an oil sample checked.
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Yes a lot of highway miles, but also a lot of drag strip passes at WOT and the oil analysis after several weekends of racing comes back the same. In fact Blackstone says I should be able to stretch the oil change interval further even during the racing season.
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dealerships just slap on 3k oil changes, they dont think about it.... the edge is also more than 5k they always put a 3k interval on it....

FYI I believe the 2011+ v6 are 10k oil changes and it is supposed to tell you when you need a change so I have heard~
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I got my oil change about a month ago at a lil over 5k miles. The sticker that recommends the next oil change reads 10,100 miles, that's another 5k after
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I may change mine at 5k as its the first change then go 10k from then on~ not sure... it will bother me not being 10,20,30 etc so I may do it at 5/10 then start 10k from then on lol
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Ford says 10k but gotta remember they are also the one that needs to sell cars in the future too so i say 5k.
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thanks for the input guys. i will check my owners manual as suggested as well.


so, i should def be using synthetic right, no matter the mileage?
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thanks for the input guys. i will check my owners manual as suggested as well.


so, i should def be using synthetic right, no matter the mileage?
Well, thats a tough question, obviously your engine is in great condition and can handle such a great cleaning oil and you should be fine, sometimes if you buy a car with a lot of miles someone hasnt been using synthetic the synthetic oil will actually clean so well that you may experience leaks. But, it sounds like you have taken care of your engine pretty well so I would absolutely use synthetic. Always use synthetic. Best thing you can do for your engine.
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My 01 f150 has 330,000 mi. My 06 f250 has 274,000. I run conv 5w30 valvoline and change at 3-5k. Switched the mustang to amsoil 5w20, and now all of a sudden I have the notorious smoke on start up. Imo the cost of synthetics is not worth it unless u have heat issues.

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Anyone that runs ther oil 10k miles , let alone 25k amsoil says u can is asking for problems imo.
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Re: Ok guys stupid question

I was looking in the edge yesterday and finally found out how to set the interval from 5k to 10k

if you want the RIGHT answer here it is....\

when you change your oil send it off to be tested (but send it to a TRUSTED place and if you only plan to do it once or twice send it off to more than one place to compare results as I bet you some places dont even look at it).

Based on real results you can determine when your oil is needed for changing based on where you live, what oil/filter you run, and how/where you drive the car.
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I was looking in the edge yesterday and finally found out how to set the interval from 5k to 10k

if you want the RIGHT answer here it is....\

when you change your oil send it off to be tested (but send it to a TRUSTED place and if you only plan to do it once or twice send it off to more than one place to compare results as I bet you some places dont even look at it).

Based on real results you can determine when your oil is needed for changing based on where you live, what oil/filter you run, and how/where you drive the car.
thx Spec, this is good to know.
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My 01 f150 has 330,000 mi. My 06 f250 has 274,000. I run conv 5w30 valvoline and change at 3-5k. Switched the mustang to amsoil 5w20, and now all of a sudden I have the notorious smoke on start up. Imo the cost of synthetics is not worth it unless u have heat issues.

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Anyone that runs ther oil 10k miles , let alone 25k amsoil says u can is asking for problems imo.
Your engine would last 660,000 with synthetic lol
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Your engine would last 660,000 with synthetic lol
The f150 gonna get that on conv oil, the f250 pulls 15,000# dam near daily.
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No way not a 01. Those motors are known to fail before 200k so your lucky to get this far. There is no way on gods green earth your f150 will last that long on the orginal motor. A diesel of course but a f150 without the 4.9/I6? No way.
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No way not a 01. Those motors are known to fail before 200k so your lucky to get this far. There is no way on gods green earth your f150 will last that long on the orginal motor. A diesel of course but a f150 without the 4.9/I6? No way.
We will see, it still sounds like new and does not use any oil between changes. Only thing I've done is an exaust manifold and transmission.
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My dealer puts 5,000 on the sticker if you buy the synthetic blend. They have 19.95 special but it's not the syn blend.
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Trans at 285k and manifold at 320k
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No way not a 01. Those motors are known to fail before 200k so your lucky to get this far. There is no way on gods green earth your f150 will last that long on the orginal motor. A diesel of course but a f150 without the 4.9/I6? No way.
I had a 2001 F250 with a power stroke and it had 290K on it when I traded it in. The only thing I ever changed on it other than normal wear and tear items was the right front hub assembly. Had a banks power pack kit on it for about 200k of those miles. If you take care of them, they will last.
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I had a 2001 F250 with a power stroke and it had 290K on it when I traded it in. The only thing I ever changed on it other than normal wear and tear items was the right front hub assembly. Had a banks power pack kit on it for about 200k of those miles. If you take care of them, they will last.
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Exactly
Your talking about a diesel thats a whole other story. Im talking about gas only
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Your talking about a diesel thats a whole other story. Im talking about gas only
Mine is 4.6&5.4 gas. They last if u take care of them, I have 2 to prove it.

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I can see the 4.6 but the 5.4...
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I can see the 4.6 but the 5.4...
Agreed on the 5.4, yours has gone quite a bit further than usual, but they are known for throwing spark plugs, we just repaired one the other day at our shop 225k
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Agreed on the 5.4, yours has gone quite a bit further than usual, but they are known for throwing spark plugs, we just repaired one the other day at our shop 225k
It's still running. I never said there maint free.
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I wouldn't really consider having to rethread the spark plug socket or altogether replacing the heads maintenance...
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Pulling the wt I pull almost daily with the 5.4, I agree I'm lucky.
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No doubt, and I hope it lasts you 300000 more
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I wouldn't really consider having to rethread the spark plug socket or altogether replacing the heads maintenance...
No but still an easy fix.
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Not really cheap either though. But I guess I wouldn't consider that total motor failure either
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