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Old 04-18-2012, 07:10 PM   #36
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Hey nice car, what motor do you have in it, oh it's a v6. Oh.
Lmao dont u knock my 6!!!
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:37 PM   #37
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Not knocking anyones car, just stirring the pot.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:49 PM   #38
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Not knocking anyones car, just stirring the pot.
You evil person! lol
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The 2011 v6 would deffinetly win....its got like 305 hp and the 99's dont have PI heads and verts are ver heavy
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Then your comparison isn't valid because your comparing a modded car to a stock one!.. Lol. And then using that to say that the new V6 is better!... Lol. Do mod for mod and stock for stock if you want to see which is better!..
Duh stock for stock the gt would win! But us just having a tune and being able to beat one was my point! It shows how close the race really is. A tuned v6 can beat a stock 3v v8. A stock v6 can beat a 2v easily.
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The 2011 v6 would deffinetly win....its got like 305 hp and the 99's dont have PI heads and verts are ver heavy
Actually the '99s are PI motors, and not to mention the OP stated it has a 20 over bore on a rebuilt motor!.. That is going to help a bit more in the HP and torque department!...
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Hey nice car, what motor do you have in it, oh it's a v6. Oh.
Hey look its another mustang v8. How unique.
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the 99-04 2vs stock run 15s the 05-10 3vs run 14s stock.
MM&FF have a stock GT turn a 14.1 in the quarter back in '04!...

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Hey look its another mustang v8. How unique.
I hope you do know that there are more V6 Mustangs than V8s!... Lol. Just saying is all!... Lol.
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[QUOTE="Eturner"]

MM&FF have a stock GT turn a 14.1 in the quarter back in '04!...

ok and? i was just stating what a normal driver would turrn out and the times i have seen.

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idk why it showed up like that lol. but i am just stating what a normal driver times i have seen. you know what i mean? i not bad mouthing the 2vs what so ever man i love them and have owned one as well as a 03 cobra 08 roush and now my 12 5.0. i want another 2v soon
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MM&FF have a stock GT turn a 14.1 in the quarter back in '04!...
And a stock V6 PP does it in 13.7.. Base w/ 2.73 gears does it in 14.1. And I do believe our cars weigh more? Sooo, not bad for a V6 w/o any torque right?
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And a stock V6 PP does it in 13.7.. Base w/ 2.73 gears does it in 14.1. And I do believe our cars weigh more? Sooo, not bad for a V6 w/o any torque right?
I would like to know where you are getting 13.7 at?.... A 3v GT runs that stock and it's faster than the new V6!... Lol.
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I would like to know where you are getting 13.7 at?.... A 3v GT runs that stock and it's faster than the new V6!... Lol.
Ok, hopefully the link works.

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MM&FF have a stock GT turn a 14.1 in the quarter back in '04!...

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I hope you do know that there are more V6 Mustangs than V8s!... Lol. Just saying is all!... Lol.
Maybe newer mustangs but not older ones. Way more v8's out there. The old v6's go to where other normal old cars go after the motor is toast. The junk yard/scrap.
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Nice video but!.. I'm calling some BS on that!.. The guy trying to that the new V6 has 308hp at the wheels!.. Or at least that's what he is hinting at!.. So if he is going to fudge that then he is going to fudge some other things as well!... Sorry Bro!..
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No its 308 at the crank. Thats obvious.
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lets put it this way the new v6 with a procharger at 8psi gets it to 475 at the crank and about 418 to the tires verry impressive.
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Nice video but!.. I'm calling some BS on that!.. The guy trying to that the new V6 has 308hp at the wheels!.. Or at least that's what he is hinting at!.. So if he is going to fudge that then he is going to fudge some other things as well!... Sorry Bro!..
Seriously?

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No its 308 at the crank. Thats obvious.
Yes!.. Me, you, and the rest of us here know that!.. But when the narrator says it is "putting down 308hp!.." That to me says he means at the wheels!.. So then that would mean it is putting out about 360hp at the crank!.. I know Ford in the past has underrated some of their cars but never by that much!.. And if this guy is going to misrepresent that info, then he is going to misrepresent the rest!..

Look I'm bit of a Mustang fan boy, and I know some on here right now are thinking that I'm against the V6!.. I'm not!.. I've got alot of respect for the V6, most especially the new one!.. But I also like 100% truth and no BS!..
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Oorah to that lol
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Re: 2011 v6 VS 1999 gt

I'm the one with the 99 Gt. And I have ran a high 13 at best and average low 14's at the track. My biggest issue is getting traction. Idk who said 99-04 Gts run 15s stock, but Im just letting you know that mine just has flowmasters, and I run low 14's on average.

We will be sure to update this thread as soon as the race is done. Hopefully get a video of it.
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Should be a close race! GL to you both, and yes vid!!!
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I'm the one with the 99 Gt. And I have ran a high 13 at best and average low 14's at the track. My biggest issue is getting traction. Idk who said 99-04 Gts run 15s stock, but Im just letting you know that mine just has flowmasters, and I run low 14's on average.

We will be sure to update this thread as soon as the race is done. Hopefully get a video of it.
congrats to you then man. like i said b4 from the times i have seen from them. the 2vs are not impressive stock. they need some good mods
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Just I add my 2 cents to it. I have a stock 2011 v6 and from a dead stop at a light it will beat a 98 gt. easy. From a roll the same can be said. A 5.0 fox body was a walk in the park and he was in a manual. Now a 05-09 gt is a little different. From a light, their torque pulls them but the mid range is where I caught up. (his didn't sound stock). Needless to say, the new v6 is on up there in previous gt's
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Re: 2011 v6 VS 1999 gt

Well #1, a 98 Gt is a Non PI engine. There is a HUGE difference in power between a 98 Gt and 99-04 Gts. The 99-04 Gts have PI engines (Performance Enhanced) The 98 Gts put out 215 hp on a good day stock. Of course your gona walk him. 98 was a very slow and horrible year for the Gt. IMO. Now the 99-04 Gts I have seen lay down about 230-240 rwhp on dynos. I can walk 98 and older Gts all day if they are stock.

Looking at the specs, most people would say that the 11 V6 will take a 99 Gt, I am one of those people. I figure if a 3v is having a hard time beating a new v6, then Im gona have hell just trying to keep up. I expect to stay with him through 2nd gear and then I think he will pull away after 3rd. And thats only if I get a perfect launch. But anything can happen.

We will try to make a video, it might be hard for me to record it because I have a 5 Speed. But we will try. Thanks everyone for your input.
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Excuse my ignorance but what does PI and non PI mean?
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Excuse my ignorance but what does PI and non PI mean?
in 99 the heads on the GT were made better and the PI heads were considered 99-04 GT heads and boosted power from 260 to 300~ (well actually the compression is a bit different as well but they raised power along with the PI intakes)

I will tell you from experience the 3.7L below about 3500 doesnt move very fast, its a top end motor for sure, but it has a high powerband and is fine once you rev it.
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in 99 the heads on the GT were made better and the PI heads were considered 99-04 GT heads and boosted power from 260 to 300~ (well actually the compression is a bit different as well but they raised power along with the PI intakes)

I will tell you from experience the 3.7L below about 3500 doesnt move very fast, its a top end motor for sure, but it has a high powerband and is fine once you rev it.
Yeah the 3.7 is like fords version of a Honda motor. Nothing on the low end but top end power is awesome. I thought PI was referring to the heads because i knew they were different just wanted to double check though!
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Has something to do withported heads

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Has something to do withported heads
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Well you have to think, with every new generation the power increases. The 98 was a vert, had a cai, and not to be sexist but he was a 18 year old girl. What is PI? I've never heard of that.
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Re: 2011 v6 VS 1999 gt

PI means (performance Improved) or (Enhanced) whatever you like to say best. The changed the heads and intake in 99-04 Gts and up.

AND FOR THE RESULTS!!!!!

We raced quite a few times and had the same exact results every time we raced, we even switched drivers to see if it changed it, and no matter who drove either car, the results never changed. The 11 V6's nose was right at the 99 Gts door until about 100-110 and then slowly pulled away. So, in a 1/8 or a 1/4, a 99 Gt would win by just a few feet. But after 100-110, the V6 will pull away. Perfect match for each other. Both are amazing cars.

I see no reason what so ever for an 05-09 Gt to loose to an 11 V6. The driver means EVERYTHING. For instance, Sean (11 V6 Driver) raced an 02 Gt 5 speed coupe right before we raced and smoked it, I mean just straight up walked it, it was embarrassing lol I knew the driver had no idea what he was doing because you could hear the car not being shifted right and not down shifting when he should have. It had me worried when I saw how bad the 02 Gt got whipped. But in the end, my old 99 Gt did really good and so did Seans 11 V6. The 99-04 Gt is a perfect car to run against the new V6. The 05-09 Gts should have no problem beating a new V6 with a good driver.

And again, thanks everyone for you input.
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Thanks for posting! What were the best times?
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How could the v6 pull away at 110 when its limited to 112mph? Or did he have a tune?
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How could the v6 pull away at 110 when its limited to 112mph? Or did he have a tune?
The v6 is limited to 125

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And im just gonna say one thing the driver means the worlddddd, like the said the black 02 coupe, we saw under the hoo he had the same stuff i had a cai and exhaust, and me and him wasnt even close it was like he had no idea what to do all tho he did say "yea i can take it" but all in all it was a good time for being almost 15 years old a stock car (yea its a gt i get it) to perform the way it did against a brand new slightly modded car i can very impressed with both my lil v6 and his 14 year old gt, now when my sct tuner comes in it might be a new game
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Yeah, the tuner will make a big difference. Get the tune, and that GT will be done What was your best time??
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Yeah, the tuner will make a big difference. Get the tune, and that GT will be done What was your best time??
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