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05-10-2012, 02:36 PM
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| After market HIDs
So I just ordered a HID conversion kit off of eBay for $59. I got the bi xenon 55 w 6000k bulbs. Can't wait to have them installed. A buddy of mine told me to stay away from some of the kits on eBay but I thought it was a good deal. What do you guys think? Anyone else have HIDs?
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05-10-2012, 02:55 PM
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I got some from ebay same price too . But mine are 10000k . They look cool . And are very bright. But my.wire harnes that come with it was messing up. After a week it started not turning off when i cut my lights off. So i would have to pull the fuse the kit.come. With just to shut my lights off. But the people said they would send me a replacment . Well that same day my headlight went out. So they said they would send me a replacment of that also. Its been 2 months or so and they keep sending.me the bulb with no harness. So iv go a spare bulb now and the harness is on its way again. But they are easy to install
Sorry about spelling hard type on phone.
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05-10-2012, 05:53 PM
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I have some 6K on mine and awesome they are!!! Mine from amazon and cost me 60.
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05-10-2012, 07:03 PM
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They do look good did the fog lights come with them
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05-10-2012, 07:44 PM
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I have aftermarket hids on my 99 infiniti qx4..for 4 years. They have so many problems and things breaking that the $900 factory hid option on my stang was a must. 99 percent of the hid kits on ebay are made at the same factory in china. A few years back i found the website that sells the kits in wholesale...same parts but 100 different box and packaging styles for the wholesaler to choose from.
To start the xenon bulb the ballast requires a blast of thousands of volts initially for miliseconds. If there were to be a malfunction your car will catch on fire, i wonder if insurance would cover this. Or if fords warranty would cover melted wiring.
I also constantly kept getting brights flashed at me in the qx4. also the light output is horrible in the rain. The blue makes you think you see better but you really dont.
Most importantly. The cutoff/beam pattern. The proper projectors make a world of difference. When i see the blinding aftermarket hids on other stangs i cringe. The factory hids not only give off a perfect bluish white tone, they also have a direct cutoff of light. Park your stang next to one with real hids, its like a blowup doll vs Adriana Lima. Do it right or leave it stock.
i spent 4 years convincing myself the $100 i spent on the ebay hids were fine. Even though i went through 5 bulbs, 3 ballasts and 2 fuses. Then i got my stang, and i felt like an idiot. Best $900 ever.
Look at this photo...im head on...in broad daylight, no glare and the ground is lit! Ill take pics at night sometime |
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05-11-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by curtin1991 They do look good did the fog lights come with them | Na. I got those from autozone. Cheap upgrade but makes it look sweet mid-day.
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05-11-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by the_stig I have aftermarket hids on my 99 infiniti qx4..for 4 years. They have so many problems and things breaking that the $900 factory hid option on my stang was a must. 99 percent of the hid kits on ebay are made at the same factory in china. A few years back i found the website that sells the kits in wholesale...same parts but 100 different box and packaging styles for the wholesaler to choose from.
To start the xenon bulb the ballast requires a blast of thousands of volts initially for miliseconds. If there were to be a malfunction your car will catch on fire, i wonder if insurance would cover this. Or if fords warranty would cover melted wiring.
I also constantly kept getting brights flashed at me in the qx4. also the light output is horrible in the rain. The blue makes you think you see better but you really dont.
Most importantly. The cutoff/beam pattern. The proper projectors make a world of difference. When i see the blinding aftermarket hids on other stangs i cringe. The factory hids not only give off a perfect bluish white tone, they also have a direct cutoff of light. Park your stang next to one with real hids, its like a blowup doll vs Adriana Lima. Do it right or leave it stock.
i spent 4 years convincing myself the $100 i spent on the ebay hids were fine. Even though i went through 5 bulbs, 3 ballasts and 2 fuses. Then i got my stang, and i felt like an idiot. Best $900 ever.
Look at this photo...im head on...in broad daylight, no glare and the ground is lit! Ill take pics at night sometime | Thank you. An intelligent person finally
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05-12-2012, 08:34 AM
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Ughhh hope I didn't make a bad mistake then
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05-12-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by the_stig I have aftermarket hids on my 99 infiniti qx4..for 4 years. They have so many problems and things breaking that the $900 factory hid option on my stang was a must. 99 percent of the hid kits on ebay are made at the same factory in china. A few years back i found the website that sells the kits in wholesale...same parts but 100 different box and packaging styles for the wholesaler to choose from.
To start the xenon bulb the ballast requires a blast of thousands of volts initially for miliseconds. If there were to be a malfunction your car will catch on fire, i wonder if insurance would cover this. Or if fords warranty would cover melted wiring.
I also constantly kept getting brights flashed at me in the qx4. also the light output is horrible in the rain. The blue makes you think you see better but you really dont.
Most importantly. The cutoff/beam pattern. The proper projectors make a world of difference. When i see the blinding aftermarket hids on other stangs i cringe. The factory hids not only give off a perfect bluish white tone, they also have a direct cutoff of light. Park your stang next to one with real hids, its like a blowup doll vs Adriana Lima. Do it right or leave it stock.
i spent 4 years convincing myself the $100 i spent on the ebay hids were fine. Even though i went through 5 bulbs, 3 ballasts and 2 fuses. Then i got my stang, and i felt like an idiot. Best $900 ever.
Look at this photo...im head on...in broad daylight, no glare and the ground is lit! Ill take pics at night sometime | That is an awesome ****ing picture. Throw down the gauntlet!
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05-22-2012, 03:59 PM
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Gotta say, I do love them. Was not disappointed.
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05-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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my hids.
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05-22-2012, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by curtin1991 my hids. | See Corey, you proved my point, along with the photo just before yours....you cant make out the headlights, there is just a giant blur of light. See in your photo, the less prominent shade of light above your headlight pattern, thats glare. Keep in mind you are only a few feet from that wall...move back and that glare just gets bigger. That isnt light that is going to the ground, that is light that is blinding other drivers. On a dark night, on a two lane road, an oncomer who had too much to drink or too little sleep will veer right into the giant orbs of light, its human nature.
If you want HID's then do it right with projectors or OEM setups. Here is my HID's
This photo was taken about 6 inches from the bulb, about a half inch above the direct beam of light, no glare, I can make out the entire area around the light.
Here is a head on view at night, I can make out the car, no giant orbs of light, ground is fully lit and I am not blinded.
And finally, a TRUE cutoff pattern, I am about 3 feet from my garage, and there is a clear line allllll the way across the wall. There is a slight greenish/rainbow on the line where the cutoff occurs, and no other light above that line.
I really am not trying to be a jerk here, I just get annoyed that people call what you guys install "HID"...High Intensity Discharge, yes, high intensity glare discharge, the light isn't dispersed properly anywhere, it defeats the purpose of why HID's were engineered in the first place. Imagine taking an old CRT tube tv, then using construction paper to throw black horizontal bars across the top and bottom of the frame, then telling your friends its an HDTV, that is what you have just done to your car. |
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05-22-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by silvrbullet2012
Na. I got those from autozone. Cheap upgrade but makes it look sweet mid-day. | How much were they at autozone where they hard to put in? Would they work with my stock fog lights?
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05-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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the glare is not any less with stock head lights this was before i put the kit on .and i have been infront of my.car at.night.in my wifes car and never had any.trouble seeing. but hey they where 35 bucks . they are paid for and not financed . lmao.
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05-22-2012, 06:29 PM
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05-22-2012, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by the_stig
See Corey, you proved my point, along with the photo just before yours....you cant make out the headlights, there is just a giant blur of light. See in your photo, the less prominent shade of light above your headlight pattern, thats glare. Keep in mind you are only a few feet from that wall...move back and that glare just gets bigger. That isnt light that is going to the ground, that is light that is blinding other drivers. On a dark night, on a two lane road, an oncomer who had too much to drink or too little sleep will veer right into the giant orbs of light, its human nature.
If you want HID's then do it right with projectors or OEM setups. Here is my HID's
This photo was taken about 6 inches from the bulb, about a half inch above the direct beam of light, no glare, I can make out the entire area around the light.
Here is a head on view at night, I can make out the car, no giant orbs of light, ground is fully lit and I am not blinded.
And finally, a TRUE cutoff pattern, I am about 3 feet from my garage, and there is a clear line allllll the way across the wall. There is a slight greenish/rainbow on the line where the cutoff occurs, and no other light above that line.
I really am not trying to be a jerk here, I just get annoyed that people call what you guys install "HID"...High Intensity Discharge, yes, high intensity glare discharge, the light isn't dispersed properly anywhere, it defeats the purpose of why HID's were engineered in the first place. Imagine taking an old CRT tube tv, then using construction paper to throw black horizontal bars across the top and bottom of the frame, then telling your friends its an HDTV, that is what you have just done to your car.  | And you are entitled to your opinion, considering I asked at the beginning of the thread. But to compare my car to an old television I have to disagree with you there.
And as Curtin said, I spent 59 bucks on them and not 900 as an extra option. So considering the price, I am satisfied.
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05-22-2012, 07:02 PM
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I know 900 sounds like alot but i have had hids like you guys have. Im coming from both sides of the fence here, i have seen the difference on both ends! That is WHY i shelled out the extra money for true hids.
And i wasn't dissing your car, i was dissing the idea of using a good technology in the wrong way.
I wish you guys lived near me i would have you come side by side to my car and i guarantee you would understand what i mean. My other car still has the hids in non projectors and its horrid compared to the stang. Im switching those back to halogen when i get the chance. The pics i posted show a huge difference in cutoff pattern and glare but you guys are ignoring that. I was just trying to show you what the true hid setup looks like.
I am all for anybody improving their ride, especially something as critical as lighting and visibility, but these kits in regular housings are a hazard to you and others on the road. You looking at them and saying they look fine, or same glare as halogen is just your mind telling you it was $35 well spent, or $864 saved. Meanwhile there is a clear difference in the photos (no pun intended). Aftermarket projector housings do exist, you dont have to spend $900.
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05-22-2012, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NicholasP
How much were they at autozone where they hard to put in? Would they work with my stock fog lights? | I got them for 30 bucks. And I just wired them to the battery and the switch that comes with it inside the cabin threw the fire wall. I just riveted them onto a piece of car.
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05-22-2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by curtin1991
pic | Definitely not as good quality as stock but definitely better looking in my opinion I love aftermarket way better than stock!! ---------- Post added at 10:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 PM ---------- Quote: |
Originally Posted by silvrbullet2012
I got them for 30 bucks. And I just wired them to the battery and the switch that comes with it inside the cabin threw the fire wall. I just riveted them onto a piece of car. | Nice! I might just do that
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05-22-2012, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NicholasP Definitely not as good quality as stock but definitely better looking in my opinion I love aftermarket way better than stock!! ---------- Post added at 10:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 PM ----------
Nice! I might just do that | thanks nicholas, i agree the color is what i like .
And the kit i got does not use a switch it plugs into the stock harnes and runs on my stock switch. verry simple to instal .
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05-23-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by curtin1991
thanks nicholas, i agree the color is what i like .
And the kit i got does not use a switch it plugs into the stock harnes and runs on my stock switch. verry simple to instal . | Same as me but I got 6000k I think white looks better with grabber but 10000k look sick! with red IMO
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05-25-2012, 10:59 PM
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Trying to find the best HID's for my 2012 grabber blue too much wildlife and id like to be able to see as far as possible lol
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05-26-2012, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacks Warmen So I just ordered a HID conversion kit off of eBay for $59. I got the bi xenon 55 w 6000k bulbs. Can't wait to have them installed. A buddy of mine told me to stay away from some of the kits on eBay but I thought it was a good deal. What do you guys think? Anyone else have HIDs? | they last just dont touch the bulds and u can installed them your self is very eazy ---------- Post added at 12:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:32 AM ---------- who cares if other people gets mad because u have better visavility with ur hids as long as u can see the hole street ahead hcfstf them
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05-27-2012, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cookiemonster69 who cares if other people gets mad because u have better visavility with ur hids as long as u can see the hole street ahead hcfstf them | Yeah, who cares if people driving in the opposite direction as you can't see.
I just hope if they hit you, their airbags work and yours fail. Then there'd be less ignorance AND horrid spelling in the world.
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05-27-2012, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rykenknight Trying to find the best HID's for my 2012 grabber blue too much wildlife and id like to be able to see as far as possible lol | Buy the oem units from Ford. Definitely the best ones out there for your car.
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05-27-2012, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JSchu22 Yeah, who cares if people driving in the opposite direction as you can't see.
I just hope if they hit you, their airbags work and yours fail. Then there'd be less ignorance AND horrid spelling in the world. | +1.
Talk of these kits should be banned on this forum, just like street racing. Its dumb, and its illegal. Threads like these just promote the modification and ive had it with all the light pollution on the roads from these fake hids. Do it right or dont do it at all.
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05-27-2012, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JSchu22
Yeah, who cares if people driving in the opposite direction as you can't see.
I just hope if they hit you, their airbags work and yours fail. Then there'd be less ignorance AND horrid spelling in the world. | Oh man. That's a little harsh don't you think? lol
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05-27-2012, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CYCLON37 Oh man. That's a little harsh don't you think? lol | I like to think of it as Natural Selection.
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05-27-2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JSchu22
I like to think of it as Natural Selection. | Haha, that's bad but funny |
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05-27-2012, 12:09 PM
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Not everyone has money to blow on just OEM HID headlights. 900 bucks. That's a lot. I rather spend my 70 bucks to get better lighting and looks rather than a few bills just to be stock. Don't get me wrong I like the look but not everyone got that certain package for the lights.
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05-27-2012, 12:22 PM
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Then don't buy it. If I don't have the money for an exhaust system, I'm not going pull the cats off as a viable substitute.
Responsible people understand that there are just some things that you can have sometimes.
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