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Old 03-30-2014, 04:16 PM   #71
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I'm upgrading to a 2013+ real soon my 06 feels so old and i don't have sport mode lol
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Really old thread but I still havent found my answer.

I have a 2012 Base V6 with the 6 Speed and with the Steering Options (Normal, Comfort and Sport)

But when it comes to the Traction Control system (T/C) I am having a hard time selecting the features/options.

When I press the T/C button once the T/C goes off but that is all. Nothing about the Advance system.

The Advance Trac system seems to be a "locked" feature on my car.

I've tried holding the brake pedal down for 3-5 seconds while pressing the T/C button. Nothing.

At a stand still. Nothing.

Car off. Nothing.

So perhaps even though I have the steering options not at all of the Sixxer's came with the ability to turn off the Advance Traction Control.

The "Sport" mode that everyone is referring to is that only for the Auto Transmissions?

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When you start the car press the brake and hold it. Then press your TC button and hold for 5-8 sec. ADVANCETRAC OFF should show up on the screen.


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What are you expecting to see, when the Traction Control is off? With Traction Control on Off, you're driving under Posi Traction. With the Traction Control On, you're driving regular.
To the best of my knowledge, although traction control is a form of posi-traction, it is actually (at least it was when it first came out on many cars) accomplished by sensing one of the drive wheels spinning much faster then the other(s) and applies the brake to that wheel, to slow it down or stopping it so as to transfer the driving force to the other drive wheel. This is computer controlled, while traditional posi-traction is accomplished by gearing with no electronics involved.
There may be variations of this by different car companies, I'm not sure about that.

EDIT: What I would think he expects, is to be able to shut of BOTH the Advance Trac and the traction control system, so as not to be slowed down by these systems when say racing at a track, etc.
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Yea for whatever reason mine does not do that.
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look up Mykey....you can lock TC on if that is engaged. Info center one of the buttons will take you into programing for that. Hopefully you have an admin key.
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I do use/have the MyKey option. (Tracks miles on that key, speed limiter, etc.)

Its no biggie to be honest. Just curious into why it does not work for me. Perhaps it does and I am just not doing it correctly but I've tried all that was mentioned and then some.

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I know how limited slips work from back in the day. I can see how on a automatic which I have that the computer could control the torque converter engagement or possibly the trany to help control spinning.

But on a stick shift? Yes limited slip or posi has more to do with rotation difference in the differential I get it but isn't a stick still a direct lockup once the clutch is disengaged? I know it's been a few year since I had a stick but surly the clutch now a days isn't computer controlled too and causes it to slip to control spin...

Turning off my advance traction works as it should but if this feature is on a stick also can any of you stick guys explain how the system works on your car? Inquiring minds want to know....
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traction control I believe limits power when it detects wheel spin

advance track will apply specific brakes if it feels it needed, I've had mine brake an inside rear tire a few times when I've been out having fun
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traction control I believe limits power when it detects wheel spin

advance track will apply specific brakes if it feels it needed, I've had mine brake an inside rear tire a few times when I've been out having fun
That is wild stuff.
I haven't had to pull mine yet so can I assume our rear pad or rotors are wired with sensors to compare rotation to the front?

So I can get my feeble mind around this, if you manual guys hammer it and start spinning even with the clutch fully engaged and wot it applies the brakes to prevent the rears from rotating more than the front?
That seems mighty hard on a drive train IMO. But I just buy not design...
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wheel speed sensors on the hub and pitch/yaw sensors.

for TC it cuts engine power. The first time my advance track kicked in was a sharp 90+ deg corner with the midpoint being a real low spot. I went in moderately fast (no traffic) and planned on acceleration at midpoint. I felt the inside rear brake apply and it pulled the car to the right when I was expecting the rear to kick some. It kept me in line and I was amazed.
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wheel speed sensors on the hub and pitch/yaw sensors.

for TC it cuts engine power. The first time my advance track kicked in was a sharp 90+ deg corner with the midpoint being a real low spot. I went in moderately fast (no traffic) and planned on acceleration at midpoint. I felt the inside rear brake apply and it pulled the car to the right when I was expecting the rear to kick some. It kept me in line and I was amazed.
I'll be damned. Worked like the gyro in my RC heli...
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From the Owners Manual

Traction control system (TCS)
"The traction control system helps avoid drive wheel spin and loss of
traction.
If your vehicle begins to slide, the system applies the brakes to individual
wheels and, when needed, reduces engine power at the same time. If the
wheels spin when accelerating on slippery or loose surfaces, the system
reduces engine power in order to increase traction. "


"ESC (electronic stability control) operates by applying brakes to one or more of the wheels individually and, if necessary, reducing engine power if the system detects that the vehicle is about to skid or slide laterally."
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Does the traction control being on really effect the power of the car all that much ? I havent yet messed around with it off yet , should I ?

Yes I can say 100% it does... My car runs about 2tenths slower in 1/4 with it on... Lost yesterday in bracket racing because I left it on... So trust me I know


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Yes I can say 100% it does... My car runs about 2tenths slower in 1/4 with it on... Lost yesterday in bracket racing because I left it on... So trust me I know

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So does that mean you had some wheel spin somewhere?

Oh...are you talking both traction control AND electronic stability control(AdvanceTrac)?
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Traction control on/off

AdvanceTrac..... threw it in drive and just forgot to hit the button cause was my first time bracket racing


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I'm not sure how you're getting 120 out of the 3.7L, it's software limited to 113MPH from the factory. Do you have a tune? Also, if you do have a tune, do you have a stock driveshaft? If you do, be very careful about how fast you go. The stock shafts come apart catastrophically at around 130-135 MPH.
Sorry but I have to call BS on this. I had a 2001 Mercury Cougar v6 that I hit 130 mph on I-80. If that pile of crap didn't fall apart at 130 mph no way would a 2014 Mustang.

130 mph isn't really that fast these days.

Not to mention I have researched the hell out of the v6 Mustangs and have not came across that little tidbit even once. Can you link us any credible sources that back your statement?
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Sorry but I have to call BS on this. I had a 2001 Mercury Cougar v6 that I hit 130 mph on I-80. If that pile of crap didn't fall apart at 130 mph no way would a 2014 Mustang.

130 mph isn't really that fast these days.

Not to mention I have researched the hell out of the v6 Mustangs and have not came across that little tidbit even once. Can you link us any credible sources that back your statement?

There's several videos about this on YouTube


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Man, that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. Unbelievably bad move by Ford not to own up and replace the DS, especially since it's obvious they knew before release since they had the speed cap set at a pathetic 113 from the get go.

My apologies to the person I responded to. It's just so hard to comprehend why Ford would do such a crap move.

I may have to stop pouring money into my v6 now. It seems like GT is the only way to go.

Also, are the new v6s set to 113 mph?
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Not to mention I have researched the hell out of the v6 Mustangs and have not came across that little tidbit even once. Can you link us any credible sources that back your statement?
There are a couple of video links of V6 driveshaft failures - one on the road, the other on a dyno - in this thread: V6 driveshafts

Mine didn't fail, but would start a troubling vibration right at 100. After installing a new Axle Exchange aluminum DS, it is smooth up to the limiter.
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Ive had mine to 110 and it was smooth as butter. But the simple fact that Ford put the limit to 113 on a freaking sports car tells me they now the DS is junk. At first I thought it was to encourage GT sales... Boy was I wrong.

And its not like I want to drive 130 often, but to think my old 174 hp Cougar could do it??? That burns my chops.
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Also, are the new v6s set to 113 mph?
I saw an old(Jan 2014) article on the 2015's that said, "Ford has increased the top speed of the base model Mustang to 121 miles per hour."
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I saw an old(Jan 2014) article on the 2015's that said, "Ford has increased the top speed of the base model Mustang to 121 miles per hour."
So basically they are sticking with their money saving pile of crap DS. I'm reading now that the crappy DS goes all the way back to the 2006 V6 model.

I'm seriously at a loss right now. So the Ford Focus goes faster than the damn Mustang????
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The Focus does 150 mph?? Really Ford????

Um, now explain to me why the Focus goes as fast as the Mustang GT. Is something wrong with that DS as well? Or does someone high up at Ford have a love for driving 4-bangers insanely fast?
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The Focus is "FRONT WHEEL DRIVE"
The Focus is lighter.
Focus Gear Ratios allow it to just go to a higher MPH.
I still prefer my Mustang over a Focus
I don't drive 150 MPH anyway.
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I've had my stock Focus to 140...no real need to go that fast though.

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Unless your on a race course, there is no reason to go 150 MPH.
My Mini Cooper JCW would only hit 148 MPH at Daytona due to the computer would not allow it to get to a highr top speed.
My 98 Corvette would top out at 180 MPH at Daytona on the Back stretch but the difference from 140 to 180 was day and night as far as butt puckering went.


If any of you have ever been in a car doing 180 or even 160, you would know that it is not a good MPH to do on any street. """EVER"""
140 or 150 is not really as bad as 160 on up.

My 2012 V6 seems to be limited to about 115 MPH
I only hit that once ( A story I can't tell on the forum) if ya know what I mean.
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I got to 128 in a rental v6 challenger one time. Only if I get the DS changed will I touch 140 in the stang. I think thats good enough for me. At 180 I wouldn't remember a thing lol


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it's a V6 thing. Something about Secretary's being bad drivers.


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There's no practical reason to do a lot of things. The point is that the ONLY reason they limit it to 113 is to cover up the fact that they use a crap DS. In my book that is wrong.
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I agree. With such an increase in V6 performance of the history of the Legendary mustang name you'd think better parts would be used.


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I saw an old(Jan 2014) article on the 2015's that said, "Ford has increased the top speed of the base model (3.7L) Mustang to 121 miles per hour."
But the 2015 Mustang 2.3L EcoBoost is governor limited at 149 MPH. That's not fair!
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There's no practical reason to do a lot of things. The point is that the ONLY reason they limit it to 113 is to cover up the fact that they use a crap DS. In my book that is wrong.

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