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Old 07-19-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

Just got this installed and took it for a spin. Well worth the $$$. Can't wait to do strut tower brace.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:18 PM   #2
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Nice, that's the first K&N cold air I've seen
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:40 PM   #3
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Just got this installed and took it for a spin. Well worth the $$$. Can't wait to do strut tower brace.
Yeah where did you get that?
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:11 AM   #4
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

I gotta say "That is really nice looking. It will match a Boss Strut Bar just perfect.



Did you change mufflers yet?
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

That does look nice. I'm wondering where you got that as well and if it's only for the 13' model? Do you get good performance out of the K&N?
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I got it at autoanything.com. I had a credit I wanted use I am gonna start to go to AM. It fits 11-13 but I think they make it do all years. It's a k & n typhoon series. Cat backs after the strut tower brace.

---------- Post added at 04:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:55 AM ----------

They put a 11 on a dyno and it claims 11 hp 13lbft. I do feel a difference
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:09 AM   #8
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

I hope I don't need to mention that when you install the strut brace:

DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN THE NUTS They twist off very easy so just be carefull and snug them down. I think they go about 20ft lbs. They are locking nuts and won't back off if just snugged until they stop.
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@Ronnie. Good looking out, i didnt know that. I have a torque wrench and hopefully they say exact amount in directions.
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+1, I'm the idiot that did that
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

The K&N uses its own airbox and the factory cold air.... interesting. Wonder what the real gains are compared to the other brands.
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@Sanguin dyno sheet that came with kit claims 11.79hp @ 5900 rpm and 13.47lbft @4000rpm using a 2011 mustang 3.7l v6. With air box lid removed. I don't plan on running mine with the lid off I live in AZ and think its too dusty for that.
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

I prefer real world dynos I don't believe manufacturer claims for the most part.
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

FORD RACING claims a boost of 12 horsepower just using the K&N drop in filter. They don't say what RPM but I'll bet it is around 5,900 or 6,000

There is probably not much gain at slow driving speeds but they do filter the air a lot better.

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FORD RACING claims a boost of 12 horsepower just using the K&N drop in filter. They don't say what RPM but I'll bet it is around 5,900 or 6,000

There is probably not much gain at slow driving speeds but they do filter the air a lot better.

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That's interesting from the Drop in. I know the BBK/Airraid gains etc are around 8-12 to the wheels on the new intakes. I don't think the drop in is to the wheels when they say their gains. Though i do not know, so i may be talking out of place
IMO the drop in just means you don't have to replace the paper one every 15-20k, which after 2 times you're usually at what the drop in cost.
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

They also say 22% increase in air flow:

2010-2013 MUSTANG GT & 2011-2013 V6 HIGH-FLOW K&N / FORD RACING AIR FILTER | Part Details for M-9601-MGT | Ford Racing Performance Parts

Ford helped engineer the K&N so they should know.

I also would not think the drop in filter would add 12 HP but that is what Ford Racing say's it adds. I can't find the artical where I read 12 HP increase but all of the Ford Racing catalogs state 22% increase in air flow.

I got it because the K&N stops a lot more small dirt particals from getting into where you don't want dirt.
I have used K&N filters on almost every Hi performance car I ever owned since K&N started. My Corvette had a Blackwing CAI installed but I'm pretty sure K&N made the filter that was on it.

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They also say 22% increase in air flow:

2010-2013 MUSTANG GT & 2011-2013 V6 HIGH-FLOW K&N / FORD RACING AIR FILTER | Part Details for M-9601-MGT | Ford Racing Performance Parts

Ford helped engineer the K&N so they should know.

I also would not think the drop in filter would add 12 HP but that is what Ford Racing say's it adds. I can't find the artical where I read 12 HP increase but all of the Ford Racing catalogs state 22% increase in air flow.

I got it because the K&N stops a lot more small dirt particals from getting into where you don't want dirt.
I have used K&N filters on almost every Hi performance car I ever owned since K&N started. My Corvette had a Blackwing CAI installed but I'm pretty sure K&N made the filter that was on it.

That they do. They definately do provide much better airflow. I work with Power Equipment all day and eveyone has a different lingo for how they label and call things. Verry annoying, so i would assume it is on the lines of maybe 1 HP to the wheel since a whole unit may get you 6-8 on a v6. Who knows? That is why these forums are entertaining and informative at the same time.
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I like the look of the K&N and they always make a quality product...but I cant but think of heat soak when I see that aluminum pipe. Ive always preferred a composite plastic intake pipe.
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

A good point.
I love the look of the K&N chrome look pipe but like alludc said:
[QUOTEI like the look of the K&N and they always make a quality product...but I cant but think of heat soak when I see that aluminum pipe.][/QUOTE]

I'm wondering if K&N ever tested for heat.

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It is after all a cold air intake. Reminds me of my minus 6 hp joke about k&n lol
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

I e-Mailed K&N to see about this and they got right back to me.

Answer from K&N:
Hello Ronnie,



Thank you for your interest in K&N products. The information you have read, although would make sense, is incorrect. Air passes over the throttle body at over 90 MPH; the intake air is in the tube from the filter to this point for a fraction of a second. This is not enough time to alter the temperature of the air or pull heat from the tube. Also, aluminum naturally dissipates heat at a high rate. I.E. cooking with aluminum foil.



We do tend to see higher HP increases with our plastic tube kits (57 and 63 series) because of the way we can form the system. Our plastic tubes are roto-molded; we are able to get the exact shape we need for maximum velocity through this process. Whereas our aluminum tubes (69 and 77 series) are hand worked and cannot achieve the same shapes and internal design. These processes in combination with raw material costs are what lead to the 69 and 77 series kits being more expensive as well.



Keep in mind, HP is not gained by cooling the air with an intake system, but by eliminating restriction and building velocity. All intakes, stock or aftermarket, will pull the same temperature air as the ambient air temperature you are driving through.



If you have any further questions, please reply to this email or contact Customer Support at 800-858-3333.



Thanks for writing,



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Thank for getting that info. I really like the community and people on the forums. Always learn something new.
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there is also a reason why all manufacturers have left the aluminum and cast intake manifolds (think fox body 90s mustangs) and have all gone to a composite (plastic) intake system.
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there is also a reason why all manufacturers have left the aluminum and cast intake manifolds (think fox body 90s mustangs) and have all gone to a composite (plastic) intake system.
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Re: I know how much everyone loves a good cai thread

Hi Pumpkin lover,
I have been around cars and racing for over 50 years and I still learn something new all the time.
I do like the facts much better then some of the old wives tales so if something I don't know comes up I like to get the facts as much as I can.
alludc is right, Even the intake manifolds are being made of composite and not aluminum anymore. Way less weight and work better because easier to get the perfect configuration for best efficiency.
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Myself and a friend of mine just got done installing my new airaid cold air intake to my 2011 sixer. I have a sct tuner which American Muscle made me a new tune because of the CAI. I'm aware this airaid cai does not require a tune but according to AM they recommended a tune for it to get the maximum benefit from it. I have no idea how much HP was increased but man the car sounds awesome when accelerating on it. Great sound of the cold air getting sucked into the engine.

Great purchase and really happy I purchased it.
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just put one on mine the other night also happy with mpg. but my exhuast is to loud to get to hear how it sounds lol.
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