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Old 09-20-2012, 08:43 PM   #1
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last mod for the year? maybe

I'm not too sure I want to close up shop until April yet.
I'm debating if i should get the 4.10 gears. (I'll probably get them mid October if i do)
I only have 3k miles on my car. Do i really need a bearing kit?
and how much am I looking at for install? (at a "transmission specialist" )
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:07 PM   #2
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Your turning the boss 227 into a 8 to the gallon monster lol I would personally go with 3.73 since it is so new and your not dragging the car. Just my .02 bro. Could always get floor mats lol
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Your turning the boss 227 into a 8 to the gallon monster lol I would personally go with 3.73 since it is so new and your not dragging the car. Just my .02 bro. Could always get floor mats lol
Personally I wouldn't mind dropping from 14 to 8 :p
Lol there is something wrong with my car XD
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I got my 4.10's from tousley ford for like $140 shipped. After checking many, many shops the best quote I got was $300. That included bearings and fluid. Most shops wanted double that. So that's a hell of a deal. I'll be getting them on next week. $440 total for gears w/ install and everything is a killer deal. Shop around a bit.
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My car gets 16-22 in town and I have 2.73 gears. The highest ill go is 3.73 or 3.55. But highway I get 30-34. Ever thought since you're near the 3k mark to check your oil. Once this oil gets blackish it gets thick. When it gets thick the engine works harder and you'll drop mpg. Least in mine it will.

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I got my 4.10's from tousley ford for like $140 shipped. After checking many, many shops the best quote I got was $300. That included bearings and fluid. Most shops wanted double that. So that's a hell of a deal. I'll be getting them on next week. $440 total for gears w/ install and everything is a killer deal. Shop around a bit.
How easy would you assume it to be for a DIY mechanic such as myself lol
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My car gets 16-22 in town and I have 2.73 gears. The highest ill go is 3.73 or 3.55. But highway I get 30-34. Ever thought since you're near the 3k mark to check your oil. Once this oil gets blackish it gets thick. When it gets thick the engine works harder and you'll drop mpg. Least in mine it will.

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How easy would you assume it to be for a DIY mechanic such as myself lol
I changed the oil @ 2800 miles

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I got my 4.10's from tousley ford for like $140 shipped. After checking many, many shops the best quote I got was $300. That included bearings and fluid. Most shops wanted double that. So that's a hell of a deal. I'll be getting them on next week. $440 total for gears w/ install and everything is a killer deal. Shop around a bit.
But is the bearing kit worth it with 3k miles on the car?
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With motor craft or higher full synthetic 5w-20? These engines can go about 5,000 miles. My last oil change I went 7,500 and the computer said I had 10% left.
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With motor craft or higher full synthetic 5w-20? These engines can go about 5,000 miles. My last oil change I went 7,500 and the computer said I had 10% left.
Car was low at 3000
Got fully synthetic when I changed it
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Warranty that ish man. Oh wait...tune. Unless they allow that. Don't you have the race tune though?
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Warranty that ish man. Oh wait...tune. Unless they allow that. Don't you have the race tune though?
Yup
Where else do you think I get 14 mpg from :p
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:22 AM   #11
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

The difference between 3.73 and 4.10 is only like 125 RPM but first gear will be very short with the 4.10's. Auto or manual? I think you are an auto right? I can't remember. Anyway, if you are an automatic than I would go for the 4.10's otherwise 3.73's max. You could also go right inbetween and get the 3.90's..

About the install. I would ask around and see who does a great install that has lots of experience. Very easy to not have it done right and then it will whine like crazy and not wear right. I have had gears that whined and lasted a long time that were not in stalled proper but the sound was very annoying. Personally, worth the extra few hundred to know it was done right and won't howl.
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The difference between 3.73 and 4.10 is only like 125 RPM but first gear will be very short with the 4.10's. Auto or manual? I think you are an auto right? I can't remember. Anyway, if you are an automatic than I would go for the 4.10's otherwise 3.73's max. You could also go right inbetween and get the 3.90's..

About the install. I would ask around and see who does a great install that has lots of experience. Very easy to not have it done right and then it will whine like crazy and not wear right. I have had gears that whined and lasted a long time that were not in stalled proper but the sound was very annoying. Personally, worth the extra few hundred to know it was done right and won't howl.
Yes it's an auto

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The difference between 3.73 and 4.10 is only like 125 RPM but first gear will be very short with the 4.10's. Auto or manual? I think you are an auto right? I can't remember. Anyway, if you are an automatic than I would go for the 4.10's otherwise 3.73's max. You could also go right inbetween and get the 3.90's..

About the install. I would ask around and see who does a great install that has lots of experience. Very easy to not have it done right and then it will whine like crazy and not wear right. I have had gears that whined and lasted a long time that were not in stalled proper but the sound was very annoying. Personally, worth the extra few hundred to know it was done right and won't howl.
And ATM I've only got 420 bucks
In about a month ill be close to a grand
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #13
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The transmission specialists in my area refused to do it
Ford dealer said 83 bucks for fluid and haven't often a quote on labor
But I won't need bearings or anything, as the car has 3k miles
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #14
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

The fluid will be about $21 a bottle (you will need 2) and the friction modifier will be another 5 bucks from an auto parts store using Mobil 1.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:04 PM   #15
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

My guess is Ford will be pricey on the install too. That said it will be covered under your warranty if anything ever fails.
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My guess is Ford will be pricey on the install too. That said it will be covered under your warranty if anything ever fails.
He quoted me 83 for supplies
He said a bearing kit isn't necessary
Im guessing about 300 for labor
300+83+170 = about 550 for total cost of gears
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:13 PM   #17
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

That is fair. Much better than I thought Ford would charge. The 83 wiill also include marking compound, RTV sealant or a gasket for the rear cover etc.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:26 PM   #18
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My 300 was off by 230 bucks :/

Any other tips?
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:35 PM   #19
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

Just ask them if they have done them before or have a special person that is particularly good at it etc. Other than that see if you can drive a car that has a gear upgrade so that you know what to expect. I went from 3.31's to 4.30's in my last car and it had more grunt than my good friends GT500 from a dead stop. That said he quickly ate me alive once he hit second gear but I would easily pull a car on him and I was probably 150 HP less.

Did you check out the gear calculators to see what RPM you will be spinning in each gear at posted speed limits just so you can get an idea? If not I would do that. You said in another thread that you dont do a whole bunch of miles every week so I would go for the 4.10's if you arent going to do any forced induction. 3.73's if you plan on it later on.

Most people fear going with too much gear and then regret not getting enough gear. Don't fear the gear!!!! Esp. with an auto.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:03 PM   #20
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I did heck the Rpm

Not too bad
And I rarely drive on the highway
I had one dealer quote me $1400 on labor -_-
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Is 780 too much for gears plus labor
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:24 PM   #22
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Update: won't have enough money

I'll have to wait until February :/
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Re: last mod for the year? maybe

That will give you some time to find a few shops and compare work and prices. No rush right?
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:03 PM   #24
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Yea,

I feel like I'm 8
Wanting something done now :p
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