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Old 10-17-2012, 12:47 PM   #1
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Ok i know everyone doesn't think a throttle body is worth it, but do you think with my longtube headers and catback i will gain a little more. I know American muscle says its 10-15 hp but i don't believe it also i think its funny how they disabled the comments on youtube

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Absolutely do it! It will highlight your other mods. Alone they make little difference, but with your mods your should notice. Get a tune afterwards
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Ok i know everyone doesn't think a throttle body is worth it, but do you think with my longtube headers and catback i will gain a little more. I know American muscle says its 10-15 hp but i don't believe it also i think its funny how they disabled the comments on youtube

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Full exhaust doesn't really affect the airflow you get to your throttle body. That air is measured through a CAI, MAF and Tune! However full exhaust will also make a big increase in power . We've seen Dyno proven numbers of 10-15RWHP with just a throttle body. If you'd like to talk to my head tuning specialist about this product, feel free to shoot me your information and I'll have Mike Wilson give you a call!

We would never provide you with miss leading information. All of these numbers are not estimates, these are true proven facts! The reason we disable the comments is because if you guys ask questions we want you to be answered in the most efficient way possible. Give my CS team a call anytime you have a questions or comment and they'll get you squared away! Our Mustang Experts are here Monday-Friday from 9AM-9PM EST and Saturdays from 9AM-5:30PM EST. If you want to hit them up, their number is 866.727.1266.

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Full exhaust doesn't really affect the airflow you get to your throttle body. That air is measured through a CAI, MAF and Tune! However full exhaust will also make a big increase in power . We've seen Dyno proven numbers of 10-15RWHP with just a throttle body. If you'd like to talk to my head tuning specialist about this product, feel free to shoot me your information and I'll have Mike Wilson give you a call!

We would never provide you with miss leading information. All of these numbers are not estimates, these are true proven facts! The reason we disable the comments is because if you guys ask questions we want you to be answered in the most efficient way possible. Give my CS team a call anytime you have a questions or comment and they'll get you squared away! Our Mustang Experts are here Monday-Friday from 9AM-9PM EST and Saturdays from 9AM-5:30PM EST. If you want to hit them up, their number is 866.727.1266.

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Yah thanks i just wish someone else out there has a dyno with all my mods so i can see the numbers. I just dont want to dish out 400 bucks and gain 5 hp you know. BTW When will you guys have the 2011 v6 Auto driveshafts back in stock
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Yah thanks i just wish someone else out there has a dyno with all my mods so i can see the numbers. I just dont want to dish out 400 bucks and gain 5 hp you know. BTW When will you guys have the 2011 v6 Auto driveshafts back in stock
Schram1,

I completely understand your point of view. It always helped me to hear it from the actual experts who installed the product and tuned the car etc.. Shoot me a PM with your information and I'll have my head tuning specialist Mike Wilson contact you directly to fill you, if you'd like.

It looks like the driveshaft will be back in stock beginning to mid next week! Once I have your information for Mike to contact you I'll also put you on our notify me when back in stock list. Then as soon as it hits our facility my CS team will reach out to you!

I hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.

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I had one on my 4.6 with all those mods you have plus a FRPP an intake manifold. I can honestly say I liked the look of it but performance gains were 5-7 RWHP. I say you might see 10 max and that will be if you dyno tune with it and more at the upper end of your run. I got mine used and I did it more because I had every other mod (and I really mean that) and it was really just eye candy for me. If I had went with a forced induction setup it might have been a better gain. Not in anyway telling you not to get it. It looks much better and will have a slight gain. Personally, A dyno tune with your existing mods will cost about the same as the TB and will give you more information as well as better numbers imo.
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Dan!

Do you know if 17" steel rims will fit on my 2013 with performance package? i am getting mixed answers. If they wont fit, how come ive been told i can order an alloy and it will fit? i want steel because they are for winter. are steelies made different?
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I had one on my 4.6 with all those mods you have plus a FRPP an intake manifold. I can honestly say I liked the look of it but performance gains were 5-7 RWHP. I say you might see 10 max and that will be if you dyno tune with it and more at the upper end of your run. I got mine used and I did it more because I had every other mod (and I really mean that) and it was really just eye candy for me. If I had went with a forced induction setup it might have been a better gain. Not in anyway telling you not to get it. It looks much better and will have a slight gain. Personally, A dyno tune with your existing mods will cost about the same as the TB and will give you more information as well as better numbers imo.
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Do you guys think throttle response will be a whole lot better
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:58 AM   #10
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Schram, the Throttle Body is worth it. I grabbed the cai/tb/spacer all at the same time. this was the first mod done to the car at 118 miles. You have to look at your engine as a big a-s air pump. The more you get in, and in turn, out, the more efficient, and powerful your engine is. BBK has the cai/tb as a package, and as I said, it's worth while.
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If you did the throttle body at the same time you added a CAI and tune, how do you know the throttle body made a worthwhile difference? When you do more than one mod at the same time it is difficult to say what difference - good, bad, or none - any one of those mods had on the car.
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If you did the throttle body at the same time you added a CAI and tune, how do you know the throttle body made a worthwhile difference? When you do more than one mod at the same time it is difficult to say what difference - good, bad, or none - any one of those mods had on the car.
That is so true you wouldn't know what each part did, I did my parts each at a time so i noticed something gained each time
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I did mine bit by bit as well on my old car. It did help throttle response a tiny bit but I always felt it made a visual statement more than a performance gain. I couldn't feel the difference and it made zero gains at the track. If you want it you should get it regardless, it's your ride.
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I did mine bit by bit as well on my old car. It did help throttle response a tiny bit but I always felt it made a visual statement more than a performance gain. I couldn't feel the difference and it made zero gains at the track. If you want it you should get it regardless, it's your ride.
I only want it if i will notice a gain i dont care about visual at all under the hood

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i just have a weird lag at 20-25 mph when im light accelerating i just was thinking this would fix it.
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Do you know if 17" steel rims will fit on my 2013 with performance package? i am getting mixed answers. If they wont fit, how come ive been told i can order an alloy and it will fit? i want steel because they are for winter. are steelies made different?
I have steel rims for my 12 base, I'm thinking the 13's should be The same
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I only want it if i will notice a gain i dont care about visual at all under the hood

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i just have a weird lag at 20-25 mph when im light accelerating i just was thinking this would fix it.
It might... Maybe talk to whomever is tuning your car too. They might be able to get it dialed in better. I know a few years ago some were taking the gas pedal apart and moving the contacts inside the electronics a touch closer and it was making throttle response better. I am sure you can find a few threads on it if you google it. People that did it had all kinds of pics and write ups. It looked fairly simple. Me, I never did it and whatever the tuner or other performance parts that I did that helped were great. The rest I just learned to live with... Drive by wire will never replicate the feel of a cable.
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It might... Maybe talk to whomever is tuning your car too. They might be able to get it dialed in better. I know a few years ago some were taking the gas pedal apart and moving the contacts inside the electronics a touch closer and it was making throttle response better. I am sure you can find a few threads on it if you google it. People that did it had all kinds of pics and write ups. It looked fairly simple. Me, I never did it and whatever the tuner or other performance parts that I did that helped were great. The rest I just learned to live with... Drive by wire will never replicate the feel of a cable.
i just use the bama tunes it weird the rpms will raise up high to shift by it self if i accelerate slow then drop back down its a quick jerk
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I know they fit on the base, but I got the performance package which I believe has larger brakes. Just not sure why alloy will fit but not steels.
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The PP has better pads only I believe. Brakes should be the same size, calipers and rotors.
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That is so true you wouldn't know what each part did, I did my parts each at a time so i noticed something gained each time
I heard for the v6 2013 tb mod doesn't really help that much.
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Schram, tough decision with the TB. I think that your going to see the most gains from a dino tune my friend. especially with a TB. If your getting to the point of "fully bolted" then the time has come for a custom tune as well. I would say your best bet is seeing if the Bama guys would put you on there dino... I have no Idea if they would/do do that but they have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to tuning our cars and would be my first choice any day. If not then I would find a highly RECOMMENDED speed shop... its worth traveling AND PAYING for a good tune, a good one wont be cheap, but neither is a new engine.
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The PP has better pads only I believe. Brakes should be the same size, calipers and rotors.
The performance package has the GT brakes (which are bigger) and better brake pads.
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Schram, tough decision with the TB. I think that your going to see the most gains from a dino tune my friend. especially with a TB. If your getting to the point of "fully bolted" then the time has come for a custom tune as well. I would say your best bet is seeing if the Bama guys would put you on there dino... I have no Idea if they would/do do that but they have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to tuning our cars and would be my first choice any day. If not then I would find a highly RECOMMENDED speed shop... its worth traveling AND PAYING for a good tune, a good one wont be cheap, but neither is a new engine.
That is true but the bama tunes work fine. I wouldn't drive there for a tune im in Texas
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That is true but the bama tunes work fine. I wouldn't drive there for a tune im in Texas
Same here, too long of a drive but a local shop does custom dyno tunes for me and the mustang team I'm in and I gained 6 more HP then the bamma tunes emailed to me
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