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Old 11-25-2012, 05:58 PM   #71
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I think if it's ok to illegally have lights that blind an oncoming driver then the oncoming driver should be ok illegally shooting out the headlights of the offender.
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Other than splashing a bunch of bright blue light everywhere, I've never understood HID's in a headlight without the correct projection headlight housing, such as the 2013's and up. In cars without projection type housings, all the HID's do as provide a splash pattern of light that is less than a stock bulb. Because it looks bright standing in front of the headlight, folks think it's great (HID's). Go with the silverstars if you want better lighting. Be aware that they burn out faster though then the conventional light bulb.

Install HID's only if you change out the headlight housings to projection type. Otherwise, all you get is blue light that is bright, but does not project well on the road with the incorrect stock headlight housings in pre 2013 Mustangs. Just as smart as tinting your headlights....you loose night time visability, but hey, it's cool....I guess.
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Other than splashing a bunch of bright blue light everywhere, I've never understood HID's in a headlight without the correct projection headlight housing, such as the 2013's and up. In cars without projection type housings, all the HID's do as provide a splash pattern of light that is less than a stock bulb. Because it looks bright standing in front of the headlight, folks think it's great (HID's). Go with the silverstars if you want better lighting. Be aware that they burn out faster though then the conventional light bulb.

Install HID's only if you change out the headlight housings to projection type. Otherwise, all you get is blue light that is bright, but does not project well on the road with the incorrect stock headlight housings in pre 2013 Mustangs. Just as smart as tinting your headlights....you loose night time visability, but hey, it's cool....I guess.
Yeah I hate gettin blinded by them.
I have the projectors that I posted a pic of. But I'm running the lights that were in the OEM housings in my new raxiom projector housings from AM. I'm just looking for the best and brightest functioning light I can put in without doing HIDs. I refuse to go to HIDs.
I ordered the H9s last night from AM. I'll see how those work
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Other than splashing a bunch of bright blue light everywhere, I've never understood HID's in a headlight without the correct projection headlight housing, such as the 2013's and up. In cars without projection type housings, all the HID's do as provide a splash pattern of light that is less than a stock bulb. Because it looks bright standing in front of the headlight, folks think it's great (HID's). Go with the silverstars if you want better lighting. Be aware that they burn out faster though then the conventional light bulb.

Install HID's only if you change out the headlight housings to projection type. Otherwise, all you get is blue light that is bright, but does not project well on the road with the incorrect stock headlight housings in pre 2013 Mustangs. Just as smart as tinting your headlights....you loose night time visability, but hey, it's cool....
I respect your view on the HIDs and if you have projector housing, it would probably be better. I plan on doing 5k HIDs in my headlights and fogs including clear turn signals with switchback LEDs and oracle halos in the headlights and fogs. I think the 5k isn't too blue. it's called "Pure White", even though it's not pure white, I think it's what I'd personally like.
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That should not be so bad. Just be aware that HID's are designed to work in projector type housings. So many folks loved the Audi/BMW look of the HID's and had to have them in their car. The aftermarket boomed with these kits. Now there are so many of these on the road. Install them for looks if that's what your after, but don't install them and expect to get any better night time visability in stock, non projector housings, which I think was the original posters question on how to obtain better night time lighting.

Its all good. That's what makes this car hobby enjoyable for everyone; we can all do what we want with our vehicles and talk about it.
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That should not be so bad. Just be aware that HID's are designed to work in projector type housings. So many folks loved the Audi/BMW look of the HID's and had to have them in their car. The aftermarket boomed with these kits. Now there are so many of these on the road. Install them for looks if that's what your after, but don't install them and expect to get any better night time visability in stock, non projector housings, which I think was the original posters question on how to obtain better night time lighting.

Its all good. That's what makes this car hobby enjoyable for everyone; we can all do what we want with our vehicles and talk about it.
+100. the look is what I really want. I've seen them on YouTube (mustang 10-12) headlights with 5k HIDs and some halos. they looked great to me. I don't ever do much nighttime driving. I'm excited to see what it'll really look like
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That should not be so bad. Just be aware that HID's are designed to work in projector type housings. So many folks loved the Audi/BMW look of the HID's and had to have them in their car. The aftermarket boomed with these kits. Now there are so many of these on the road. Install them for looks if that's what your after, but don't install them and expect to get any better night time visability in stock, non projector housings, which I think was the original posters question on how to obtain better night time lighting.

Its all good. That's what makes this car hobby enjoyable for everyone; we can all do what we want with our vehicles and talk about it.
So since I have the ccfl projector halo housings from AM, if the h9s don't work, I can always have my arm twisted to put in HIDs without having any heat/melting issues? Or scattered light?
I'd rather not clutter my engine bay with extra ballasts and wiring, which is why I wanna go with the standard lighting
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So since I have the ccfl projector halo housings from AM, if the h9s don't work, I can always have my arm twisted to put in HIDs without having any heat/melting issues? Or scattered light?
I'd rather not clutter my engine bay with extra ballasts and wiring, which is why I wanna go with the standard lighting
don't quote me on this, because I don't know that much about headlights an HIDs. BUT I've talked to a few guys and they say your headlight housings definitely won't melt. or at least your stock housings. people say if you buy some pre installed HIDs with a cheap housing then it will melt and malfunction.
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Thanks. I'll stick with the h9s if they work. Don't wanna have to replace housings and be out another $250 + additional install

Better safe than sorry and out more $
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Thanks. I'll stick with the h9s if they work. Don't wanna have to replace housings and be out another $250 + additional install

Better safe than sorry and out more $
those are words to live by my friend lol. and yeah my local shop said it would be 1600 for everything done. people say it's a ripoff but I guess I'll find out
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those are words to live by my friend lol. and yeah my local shop said it would be 1600 for everything done. people say it's a ripoff but I guess I'll find out
Holy crap. I paid $250 install price to have my heads, fogs and front lip spoiled put on
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I don't think the HID's or their bulbs create a heat issue that would melt your housings; at least I've never read anything on the forums that I suscribe to mention this.

I had them on my 2005 F150 a few years back. I drove several trips from Dallas Texas to Orlando Florida with them, and the light was worse at night over using the stock headlights. I got stopped at around 2:00 AM in Dallas (return trip) by the police, informing me that my right headlight was out. I got out of the truck, and the headlight was working! The officer said it was out when I passed him. I banged on the light, and it went out. Next day after a good sleep, I removed the light bulb, checked it's fittings, checked the ballast connector, and all looked great.
Kept doing the same thing, so after three times of failing, off they came, and went to a set of Silverstar ultras. What a huge difference in better night time driving!!!

I read up on the HID's and found that they need to be in projection type housings to work properly as far as the light pattern goes. As to my problem, I think I had a bad ballast, but never had it exchanged, since I was after better lighting in the first place.
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I don't think the HID's or their bulbs create a heat issue that would melt your housings; at least I've never read anything on the forums that I suscribe to mention this.

I had them on my 2005 F150 a few years back. I drove several trips from Dallas Texas to Orlando Florida with them, and the light was worse at night over using the stock headlights. I got stopped at around 2:00 AM in Dallas (return trip) by the police, informing me that my right headlight was out. I got out of the truck, and the headlight was working! The officer said it was out when I passed him. I banged on the light, and it went out. Next day after a good sleep, I removed the light bulb, checked it's fittings, checked the ballast connector, and all looked great.
Kept doing the same thing, so after three times of failing, off they came, and went to a set of Silverstar ultras. What a huge difference in better night time driving!!!

I read up on the HID's and found that they need to be in projection type housings to work properly as far as the light pattern goes. As to my problem, I think I had a bad ballast, but never had it exchanged, since I was after better lighting in the first place.
Oh wow. I guess it goes back to 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
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Holy crap. I paid $250 install price to have my heads, fogs and front lip spoiled put on
lol dang. yeah this is for the HID setup in the heads and fogs, and for the oracle halo color switch in the heads and fogs, and for the switchback led turn signals and clear turn signals. i don't think it's too bad since I've gotten a quote on the halos alone for 1000. that would leave the hid setup to cost around 500 so not too bad
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Damn that's ALOT of stuff lol
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Damn that's ALOT of stuff lol
lol yessir I hope it'll look good
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lol yessir I hope it'll look good
I'm sure it'll add a completely different look.
I was quite pleased with how mine turned out. I went all smoked light around the car
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I'm sure it'll add a completely different look.
I was quite pleased with how mine turned out. I went all smoked light around the car
I plan to do that at some point
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Not bright at all. First time driving at night since te install 2 weeks ago.
Had to use fogs cause they are so dim
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The light output on the Raxioms suck. I don't know how you can stand it without hids.

If you put 35w hids in you will have no problem with melting. It is the 55w that have this problem.

I have been running hids in mine for 6 months with no problems.
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I ordered the H9s from AM last night. They were 50% off fr $19.99. So I'll try those out when they get here. If they don't work then......
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Cyclon37 said he had hids in his raxioms and said they were really bright!
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:55 AM   #93
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Well see what happens Wednesday.

I didn't realize it. But Oreilleys has the raxioms H bulbs. If I woulda known that, I woulda just gone there and had them in already to check out how well they work. Guess I'll just have to wait and see now
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