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Old 11-17-2012, 01:03 PM   #36
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I don't think money really matters here. If you are considering doing modifications on your ride it is all about how happy you are after you got those new mods not how well you got your money saved.
That and you will have HIDs the way HIDs are meant to be. The first car I experienced HIDs on was my wife's Acura so, I bought the Raxioms and a HID kit and they are not even close to what a good factory setup is.

I wish I could justify the cost to pay someone to do a retrofit for me. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
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That and you will have HIDs the way HIDs are meant to be. The first car I experienced HIDs on was my wife's Acura so, I bought the Raxioms and a HID kit and they are not even close to what a good factory setup is.

I wish I could justify the cost to pay someone to do a retrofit for me. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
Same here. I don't like the raxiom styling. I like factory and with factory you'll know it fits. The shop would charge THAT much for something factory. I'm in college so I naturally gravitate toward saving money but it is your money.
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That and you will have HIDs the way HIDs are meant to be. The first car I experienced HIDs on was my wife's Acura so, I bought the Raxioms and a HID kit and they are not even close to what a good factory setup is.

I wish I could justify the cost to pay someone to do a retrofit for me. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
If you don't like your raxioms hook me up lol
They look good on you're car but I think even better on mine
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That and you will have HIDs the way HIDs are meant to be. The first car I experienced HIDs on was my wife's Acura so, I bought the Raxioms and a HID kit and they are not even close to what a good factory setup is.

I wish I could justify the cost to pay someone to do a retrofit for me. I can't wait to see how this one turns out.
I do agree that the output on the raxioms isn't that great, even with HID's. Which is why I got fog lights as well. I think you need fogs with the raxioms otherwise you would have a problem seeing the road. There's no bad glare at all from them though like I've seen in other halogen housings. In fact, there's more glare from my fogs then my headlights but since they are so low to the ground blinding is not an issue at all. I do prefer the look of mine over factory HID's. The 6k bulbs give a slight blue hue but doesn't overdue it. And the halos have grown on me as I wasn't crazy about them before. Factory HID's would definitely have better light output though for sure.
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I can't imagine what the Raxioms look like without HIDs.
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I can't imagine what the Raxioms look like without HIDs.
Haha, I've heard it's pretty aweful...
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Haha, I've heard it's pretty aweful...
If they're smoked then you probably can't see out of them :p
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A tale of two HID Installs

I have two Fords, Both were Halogen Equipped both have been upgraded, heres my story.

2011 Ford SVT Raptor: Bought a Morimoto 35w 4300k kit (H13) to go in the factory housings. No Projector, no modifications. The light output is FANTASTIC, as good as my wife's '12 Touareg (Factory HID equipped).

2011 Mustang GT: Bought Raxiom smoked halo projectors, the supplied bulbs were abysmal. I installed H9 (thats what they take) Morimoto 35w 4300k HID kit. The look is AMAZING, the light output sucks.

If someone tells you an HID bulb will melt your housing they have no idea what they are talking about.

As far as the legal aspect, keep your wattage low (35) and your color white (NOT OVER 6000k) and ensure your housings and HID kit work well together and you SHOULD BE legal (im no attorney, but I slept at a Holiday Inn Express Last night)

That all being said, if I could find a pair of Factory HID housings complete for a grand, I am a buyer. The light output of the Raxioms totally stink.

I love american muscle, but this is not a great product. They look great but headlights are one place that you cant just have them looking good, if you plan to drive at night, you have to have lights that work good too.
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I have two Fords, Both were Halogen Equipped both have been upgraded, heres my story.

2011 Ford SVT Raptor: Bought a Morimoto 35w 4300k kit (H13) to go in the factory housings. No Projector, no modifications. The light output is FANTASTIC, as good as my wife's '12 Touareg (Factory HID equipped).

2011 Mustang GT: Bought Raxiom smoked halo projectors, the supplied bulbs were abysmal. I installed H9 (thats what they take) Morimoto 35w 4300k HID kit. The look is AMAZING, the light output sucks.

If someone tells you an HID bulb will melt your housing they have no idea what they are talking about.

As far as the legal aspect, keep your wattage low (35) and your color white (NOT OVER 6000k) and ensure your housings and HID kit work well together and you SHOULD BE legal (im no attorney, but I slept at a Holiday Inn Express Last night)

That all being said, if I could find a pair of Factory HID housings complete for a grand, I am a buyer. The light output of the Raxioms totally stink.

I love american muscle, but this is not a great product. They look great but headlights are one place that you cant just have them looking good, if you plan to drive at night, you have to have lights that work good too.
Should of got the chrome ones
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Won't make a difference. The lens isint smoked the housing internals are.
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Harness success

All of my research and scheming has finally paid off.

I cant believe that I haven't installed the housings yet!

Spent about an hour and a half in my garage and here is what I did.

1. Bought two Ford service Pigtails (WPT-925) $25 each on ebay

2. Bought a MotoControl HID harness and controller (The Retrofit Source)

3. Bought a pair of OEM HID lamp housings with Bulb and Ballast intact

4. Bought a H13 to H4 harness of ebay $15

The Moto Control harness has three wires going to each side, One ground, one High trigger and one positive ballast power
The attached wiring diagram is the PIN side of the ford plug, NOT the wire side. When your dealing with four wires, you need to figure this out before you blow stuff up)


5. Connect the wires (passenger side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (the ground it to body ground above)
c. wire 4 to high trigger
d. Connect harness H13 to factory plug
e. Run positive wire to battery +

6. Connect wires (drivers side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (Use H13 to H4 adapter Ground only)
c. wire 4 to high trigger

Powered up and tested, all is working. The harness is tied in and secured, all I need to do is pull the front bumper cover and replace the housings. But I did test them sitting on the motor and they worked flawlessly!

Please let me know if you need any assistance. This was a great project!
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Just got some photos of my retrofit headlights.

They are customized with FX-R stage 3 projecter, iris shrouds, and the original reflector are painted black.

I want an oem clean look, so there are no fancy halo or led light bar.
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All of my research and scheming has finally paid off.

I cant believe that I haven't installed the housings yet!

Spent about an hour and a half in my garage and here is what I did.

1. Bought two Ford service Pigtails (WPT-925) $25 each on ebay

2. Bought a MotoControl HID harness and controller (The Retrofit Source)

3. Bought a pair of OEM HID lamp housings with Bulb and Ballast intact

4. Bought a H13 to H4 harness of ebay $15

The Moto Control harness has three wires going to each side, One ground, one High trigger and one positive ballast power
The attached wiring diagram is the PIN side of the ford plug, NOT the wire side. When your dealing with four wires, you need to figure this out before you blow stuff up)

5. Connect the wires (passenger side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (the ground it to body ground above)
c. wire 4 to high trigger
d. Connect harness H13 to factory plug
e. Run positive wire to battery +

6. Connect wires (drivers side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (Use H13 to H4 adapter Ground only)
c. wire 4 to high trigger

Powered up and tested, all is working. The harness is tied in and secured, all I need to do is pull the front bumper cover and replace the housings. But I did test them sitting on the motor and they worked flawlessly!

Please let me know if you need any assistance. This was a great project!
Holy **** man!! That's great!!! Anyway you can provide with links to everything? I'm reallllly interested in doing this! It came out amazing!! They look 10X better then the 2013 HIDs
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Hid illusionz helped me do the retrofit project. They charged $615 for parts and labor. The only thing I did was sending them a pair of aftermarket replica headlights with soft sealant, which cost me about $300. They would charge $50 more for the oem headlights, because those have strong sealant, which is difficult for them to work on.
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hid illusionz helped me do the retrofit project. They charged $615 for parts and labor. The only thing i did was sending them a pair of aftermarket replica headlights with soft sealant, which cost me about $300. They would charge $50 more for the oem headlights, because those have strong sealant, which is difficult for them to work on.
holy **** that's expesnive!!!!
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Just got some photos of my retrofit headlights.

They are customized with FX-R stage 3 projecter, iris shrouds, and the original reflector are painted black.

I want an oem clean look, so there are no fancy halo or led light bar.
Nice. Did you set those on a polar bear? Lol
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Nice. Did you set those on a polar bear? Lol
Lol^^^ WINNING
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All of my research and scheming has finally paid off.

I cant believe that I haven't installed the housings yet!

Spent about an hour and a half in my garage and here is what I did.

1. Bought two Ford service Pigtails (WPT-925) $25 each on ebay

2. Bought a MotoControl HID harness and controller (The Retrofit Source)

3. Bought a pair of OEM HID lamp housings with Bulb and Ballast intact

4. Bought a H13 to H4 harness of ebay $15

The Moto Control harness has three wires going to each side, One ground, one High trigger and one positive ballast power
The attached wiring diagram is the PIN side of the ford plug, NOT the wire side. When your dealing with four wires, you need to figure this out before you blow stuff up)

5. Connect the wires (passenger side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (the ground it to body ground above)
c. wire 4 to high trigger
d. Connect harness H13 to factory plug
e. Run positive wire to battery +

6. Connect wires (drivers side)
a. wires 1 and 3 to positive ballast power
b. wire 2 ground (Use H13 to H4 adapter Ground only)
c. wire 4 to high trigger

Powered up and tested, all is working. The harness is tied in and secured, all I need to do is pull the front bumper cover and replace the housings. But I did test them sitting on the motor and they worked flawlessly!

Please let me know if you need any assistance. This was a great project!
Where did you get the clone headlights?
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I bought a set of factory 2013 mustang headlights real cheap on ebay, from 2 diff venders. Azcrashparts i really payed $45 plus shipping of $20 for drivers side and $87 plus $20 shipping for pass side from usedautolight both are from ebay, they were perfect condition. The bulbs and ballist were removed but i felt they were cheaper than i had ever seen since, many of the guys who sell these 2013 headlights on ebay from salavage yards when i told them what i payed for first one for $45 while trying to find pass side they said no way could i buy them that cheap and they would get nasty . I finally got pass side .. Well it can be done and i did it, be persistant and check ebay everyday as these cars show up in junk yards price will drop.., but the rear plug is very difficult to find, the wiring diagram is very easy i used a 9 volt battery to check what pin was for what there is 1 ground 2 pins for the leds i pin for the electro magnetic door inside the headlight that is used for the highbeam it gives the str8 line across the bulb to lower the beam, and the last 3 pins are for the hid ballists. Hope this helps anyone whos looking for these lights and want to know what pins what, just use alligator clips and find the diagram its easy, but what angers me is ford will not sell just the plug plus by the time i can install these the car will be an antique, lol
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a guy on here has the wire harness for the 2013 xenon headlights tuxsedoblk is his screen name look under my post ( anyone know where to get 2013 headlight plugs ?? ) he responded to me, I got a set on ebay real cheap but couldn't find the wire harness for them hes the only one who has this harness, I payed $187 for the set of 2013 xenon healight assemblies I need to get the bulbs and ballasts but the assemblies were perfect, good luck finding a set of cheap ones, if ur willing to wait as the 2013 and 2014 show up in wrecking yards should be cheaper to buy, I wish u luck like the other guys say I would never spend tons of money on aftermarket headlights or even oem ones, but like they say its ur money and ur liking
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Retrofit looks good. I did mine myself quite a while ago. Used the OEM headlights (was a *****...had to dremel them open) and MH1 bi-xenon projectors from the retrofit source. Painted everything black and removed the amber reflector for the turn signals.
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I've got HIDs in my stock housing it hasent melted anything or done any damage. A lot of people say not to do it bc it blinds other drivers .
I'm not saying it is not true but mine don't seem to do it . I've never been bright lighted or any of the above. I think it has a lot to do with how low the headlights are and the shape of the housing .
It did brighten up the road a lot too .

Just Sharing my experience with them. I do not need anyone telling me its illegal, to die and all the other things this subject brings up.
Thanks in advanced lol
This is the wrong way to do it. HID's are designed to work in a projector type housing. You get more light, but at a much shorter distance. HID's in a regular light housing "splash" the light at a short distance, giving you the impression the light is brighter. You are loosing distance with this arrangement.

And it is anoying to oncoming drivers. It's too bad the police are short handed and cannot inforce this against those who think they are above the law.
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This is the wrong way to do it. HID's are designed to work in a projector type housing. You get more light, but at a much shorter distance. HID's in a regular light housing "splash" the light at a short distance, giving you the impression the light is brighter. You are loosing distance with this arrangement.

And it is anoying to oncoming drivers. It's too bad the police are short handed and cannot inforce this against those who think they are above the law.
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Glad to see people on here doing it the right way now. See way too many people here in south FL with those cheap fake HIDs in there halogen housing and it drives me nuts.
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Glad to see people on here doing it the right way now. See way too many people here in south FL with those cheap fake HIDs in there halogen housing and it drives me nuts.
But Florida is improving...we now have a "no texting while driving" law that just past the house senate the other day. Problem is, it cannot be used to pull a driver over; the police need a primary reason first; maybe using HID's in a non projector light housing will work!
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But Florida is improving...we now have a "no texting while driving" law that just past the house senate the other day. Problem is, it cannot be used to pull a driver over; the police need a primary reason first; maybe using HID's in a non projector light housing will work!
Wow so texting while driving is now illegal in Florida? Thank god if so, I see so many females texting in the morning when I am going to work, quite scary.
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I have my stock headlights in my 2013, and they look great, work great, and are legal. I didn't have to pay any extra, or install them myself.

It's crazy!
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I have my stock headlights in my 2013, and they look great, work great, and are legal. I didn't have to pay any extra, or install them myself.

It's crazy!
And my beam is wider and more intense than yours. It is crazy!
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Retrofit looks good. I did mine myself quite a while ago. Used the OEM headlights (was a *****...had to dremel them open) and MH1 bi-xenon projectors from the retrofit source. Painted everything black and removed the amber reflector for the turn signals.
That looks sick. Looks a lot like mine. Same wheels, old grill I had and pony package. I want some dark headlights like that
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And my beam is wider and more intense than yours. It is crazy!
But is it more intense than a double rainbow 'cross the sky?
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That looks sick. Looks a lot like mine. Same wheels, old grill I had and pony package. I want some dark headlights like that
Thanks. Just have to paint the reflectors black when you put the projectors in.

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But is it more intense than a double rainbow 'cross the sky?
Dude...nothing is more intense than a double rainbow cross the sky! Lol
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Thanks. Just have to paint the reflectors black when you put the projectors in.

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Dude...nothing is more intense than a double rainbow cross the sky! Lol
My wife of 30 years is more intense than a double rainbow cross the sky....
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Retrofit looks good. I did mine myself quite a while ago. Used the OEM headlights (was a *****...had to dremel them open) and MH1 bi-xenon projectors from the retrofit source. Painted everything black and removed the amber reflector for the turn signals.
Those retrofit headlights look great. I guess I will also post some pics of mine. And I got a question for you, I am not sure if it is just me. I lost the auto headlight function after install my retrofit headlight. When I put my car in running gear, those headlights are just fully on all the time. They used to be fully on only in dark environment, and will show a very dim light in daytime, which I guess is the DRL. Not sure if it is caused by wiring. And comments?
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