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Old 12-18-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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tuner question

my new mustang is coming soon, i would really like to tune my car but voiding warranty can be a problem. from what im reading 2011+ mustang ecu has time stamp every time you flash it. even if i return it to stock tune when going to dealer for a repair they can tell. can they void your warranty? anyone have this happen to them?
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my new mustang is coming soon, i would really like to tune my car but voiding warranty can be a problem. from what im reading 2011+ mustang ecu has time stamp every time you flash it. even if i return it to stock tune when going to dealer for a repair they can tell. can they void your warranty? anyone have this happen to them?
Yes they can and they will. Not your entire warranty but the most important part. The drive train warranty.
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Yes they can and they will. Not your entire warranty but the most important part. The drive train warranty.
ill take your word for it, guess i have to wait 5 years for the warranty to expire
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There's so much you can do in the meantime with suspension, wheels/tires exhaust, brakes, appearance stuff, etc., itll be five years before you know it and then itll be like driving a new car when you add power mods/tune and your car is all setup for it.
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There's so much you can do in the meantime with suspension, wheels/tires exhaust, brakes, appearance stuff, etc., itll be five years before you know it and then itll be like driving a new car when you add power mods/tune and your car is all setup for it.
not really what your say also void warranty, they can use that against you when your drivetrain fails.
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not really what your say also void warranty, they can use that against you when your drivetrain fails.
Here is the real truth... After about a year or so, when nothing has gone wrong, you'll get the itch... It will start small. Cold Air Intake that doesn't require a tune. Axle back exhaust. Billet grille. Maybe tires and rims. But moments after the CAI install, you look at the SCT you bought with it and think... What's the harm in the safe strategy tune preloaded by SCT. You throw that on there.

Then you realize you want more. NOW.

You order a race tune.... But then spin tires all day long. So then you'll upgrade your suspension in 6 months. And brakes.

Now you'll think your car can take anything you throw at it. And since you can't even break the tires loose now with near 400 at the wheels because of your stellar suspension putting it all down efficiently (add the drag radials), you figure it can't be much worse to throw some turbos or supercharge at it. Then after making some mid 10 second passes, you think... I got it. I'll add nitrous, lighten the car, drop in a cammed alluminator with your turbos/supercharger and nitrous.

Suddenly. You'll look at you wallet. And say "ohh *****"... My 30k car now has 30 k in parts. Lol.

And your warranty really wasn't that important.

Either was your GF/wife/house/job/etc.

THIS IS LIKE CRACK.
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i know exactly what your talking about but im very well discipline to control my desire
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Here is the real truth... After about a year or so, when nothing has gone wrong, you'll get the itch... It will start small. Cold Air Intake that doesn't require a tune. Axle back exhaust. Billet grille. Maybe tires and rims. But moments after the CAI install, you look at the SCT you bought with it and think... What's the harm in the safe strategy tune preloaded by SCT. You throw that on there.

Then you realize you want more. NOW.

You order a race tune.... But then spin tires all day long. So then you'll upgrade your suspension in 6 months. And brakes.

Now you'll think your car can take anything you throw at it. And since you can't even break the tires loose now with near 400 at the wheels because of your stellar suspension putting it all down efficiently (add the drag radials), you figure it can't be much worse to throw some turbos or supercharge at it. Then after making some mid 10 second passes, you think... I got it. I'll add nitrous, lighten the car, drop in a cammed alluminator with your turbos/supercharger and nitrous.

Suddenly. You'll look at you wallet. And say "ohh *****"... My 30k car now has 30 k in parts. Lol.

And your warranty really wasn't that important.

Either was your GF/wife/house/job/etc.

THIS IS LIKE CRACK.
parts are my drug and I'm ****3n ADDICTED!!!

My 18K new car turned into a 27K car!!!
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not really what your say also void warranty, they can use that against you when your drivetrain fails.
Thats such a vague statement its bullsh*t. Ive replaced many parts before with quality upgrades and never once had a warranty issue. Upgrading parts from OEM does NOT automatically void your warranty. A tune is a whole 'nother story. Please have a clue before posting and sit on that sh*t for 5 years for all I care.
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400 HP at the rear wheels??? This is a V6....

Tuners voiding warranties is up to the dealer/service department. Before you install any performance type part, visit your dealership and ask your service manager. They will talk to you. I know first hand that some dealership service departments will not void a warranty if certain parts are installed, including tuners. It all depents on the tune, the type of failure (if any), and your attitude. Don't expect to obtain any support from them if you are out there beating the car on the road or track.

Ford sells different rear gearing. This directly changes the power to RPM range. If they install it, it does not effect the warranty. Ford sells axleback exhausts for our V6's. That does not effect the warranty.

I'd say that certain tunes would not either, but I'd ask my service adviser first.
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Here is the real truth... After about a year or so, when nothing has gone wrong, you'll get the itch... It will start small. Cold Air Intake that doesn't require a tune. Axle back exhaust. Billet grille. Maybe tires and rims. But moments after the CAI install, you look at the SCT you bought with it and think... What's the harm in the safe strategy tune preloaded by SCT. You throw that on there.

Then you realize you want more. NOW.

You order a race tune.... But then spin tires all day long. So then you'll upgrade your suspension in 6 months. And brakes.

Now you'll think your car can take anything you throw at it. And since you can't even break the tires loose now with near 400 at the wheels because of your stellar suspension putting it all down efficiently (add the drag radials), you figure it can't be much worse to throw some turbos or supercharge at it. Then after making some mid 10 second passes, you think... I got it. I'll add nitrous, lighten the car, drop in a cammed alluminator with your turbos/supercharger and nitrous.

Suddenly. You'll look at you wallet. And say "ohh *****"... My 30k car now has 30 k in parts. Lol.

And your warranty really wasn't that important.

Either was your GF/wife/house/job/etc.

THIS IS LIKE CRACK.
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Thats such a vague statement its bullsh*t. Ive replaced many parts before with quality upgrades and never once had a warranty issue. Upgrading parts from OEM does NOT automatically void your warranty. A tune is a whole 'nother story. Please have a clue before posting and sit on that sh*t for 5 years for all I care.
calm ur nipples.
every dealership is different, your right it does not completely void warranty but it does void the most important part of warranty, such as the drivetrain if i was going to tune it. i have looked around after i created this thread and notice this topic was potsed numerous times on mustang forum and majority had the same view on tunes. which is what we are talking about i this thread.
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calm ur nipples.
every dealership is different, your right it does not completely void warranty but it does void the most important part of warranty, such as the drivetrain if i was going to tune it. i have looked around after i created this thread and notice this topic was potsed numerous times on mustang forum and majority had the same view on tunes. which is what we are talking about i this thread.
I like my nipples how they are, thank you! No, you said that the stuff I mentioned (suspension, brakes, etc) would void your warranty, which it will not. If I add a UCA and my engine blows, the engine will be covered.
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I like my nipples how they are, thank you! No, you said that the stuff I mentioned (suspension, brakes, etc) would void your warranty, which it will not. If I add a UCA and my engine blows, the engine will be covered.
you do know that ford has the upper hand, they can make excuses not repairing your car if anything goes wrong even if its not your mod thats causing it. bottom line it is best to consult with your dealer first before modding if your worry about warranty which is what im planning to do when i get my car. have a feeling i wont get it till feb or march.........
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you do know that ford has the upper hand, they can make excuses not repairing your car if anything goes wrong even if its not your mod thats causing it. bottom line it is best to consult with your dealer first before modding if your worry about warranty which is what im planning to do when i get my car. have a feeling i wont get it till feb or march.........
They tried not replacing my from LCA's cuz of a intake and some mods I got pissed and just left. Consulted a lawyer, went to court eventually the judge was in my favor n won they reinstated my warranty and fixed my LCA's n gave me free oil change and detail. I've explained it all before in another thread

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you do know that ford has the upper hand, they can make excuses not repairing your car if anything goes wrong even if its not your mod thats causing it. bottom line it is best to consult with your dealer first before modding if your worry about warranty which is what im planning to do when i get my car. have a feeling i wont get it till feb or march.........
It's a ***** and time consuming but don't be afraid it can be done. Unless ur an idiot and really did mess up your car on that case ur screwed
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Here is the real truth... After about a year or so, when nothing has gone wrong, you'll get the itch... It will start small. Cold Air Intake that doesn't require a tune. Axle back exhaust. Billet grille. Maybe tires and rims. But moments after the CAI install, you look at the SCT you bought with it and think... What's the harm in the safe strategy tune preloaded by SCT. You throw that on there.

Then you realize you want more. NOW.

You order a race tune.... But then spin tires all day long. So then you'll upgrade your suspension in 6 months. And brakes.

Now you'll think your car can take anything you throw at it. And since you can't even break the tires loose now with near 400 at the wheels because of your stellar suspension putting it all down efficiently (add the drag radials), you figure it can't be much worse to throw some turbos or supercharge at it. Then after making some mid 10 second passes, you think... I got it. I'll add nitrous, lighten the car, drop in a cammed alluminator with your turbos/supercharger and nitrous.

Suddenly. You'll look at you wallet. And say "ohh *****"... My 30k car now has 30 k in parts. Lol.

And your warranty really wasn't that important.

Either was your GF/wife/house/job/etc.

THIS IS LIKE CRACK.

this is to true for me. haha. nicely put.
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