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Old 01-23-2013, 04:59 PM   #1
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Comparing the Drive Shafts



The one on the top is aftermarket aluminum.
The one on the bottom is stock V6

I wonder why the stock one's break???

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I have seen the stock ds before but its interesting to see them side by side.....

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My Shaftmasters was around 17 lbs with bolts and my stock was 41lbs with U Joint. Feels great!
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They break because they are not meant to spin as fast as people want to drive them.

And I am guessing the joint in the center is the failure point that causes that problem.
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Well, that small diameter joint on a big shaft doesn't exactly look the strongest thing in the world.

Still, I'm not calling it crap or otherwise. I have yet to see any evidence of this being a consistent problem. I bet there are tons of idiots running them without limiters after tuning because they haven't heard of the one horror story that exist.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:59 PM   #6
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The '13 shaft looks much different.
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When it's warm again I'll have to crawl under my car and take some pics. Maybe if I get a shifter bracket and install it, I can take pics then.
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The one on my car looks more like this

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But this car is a 2011 in the thread above.. So is the one in the OP a GT shaft or did they change them again? MZy 06 GT had one that looked like the one in the OP... I swapped it out as it was also prone to twisting but under a lot of torque load and I had steep gears in it so.. Anyway? Which one is it in the V6 or did they make a couple of different DS for them? I know the 13 shaft is supposed to be a bit different and lighter than the 11 and the 12 but the thread I posted has a DS shown that looks like the 13 in my car. Confused. ???

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Sanguin, I saw a bracket by JHR on Ebay I think it is 50 bucks and looks like the Steeda one FYI. It makes a huge difference.
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I'm going to grab the Barton 2-post. Might as well get the best if you're getting one. I have no real plans for a short shifter or I'd be saving for an MGW.
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Both are 2011/2012 type Drive shafts.

They changed them in 2013 from the one on the bottom in the picture which is a stock driveshaft off of a 2011. A 2012 has that same one. The one on the top is an aftermarket aluminum one like American Muscle sells.

I'm trying to find a picture of one that they now put in the 2013's but not having any luck.



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I have the older barton but I drove a car with the new one and I could not feel the difference. The newer design is easier to install though. I will go.with the mgw as well if and when I do the shifter. I had issues with the sve one so I cant recommend it. The stock shifter with the bracket is a big improvement though and honestly I think I like the stock shifter enough to not swap it out.

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The 2013 looks just like the one in the thread I posted.. wider in the center with the grooves in the shaft on the front side.
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Could it also be auto vs manual driveshafts?
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the driveshaft is the same for both the automatic and manual transmissions.
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They changed them in 2013 from the one on the bottom in the picture which is a stock driveshaft off of a 2011. A 2012 has that same one. The one on the top is an aftermarket aluminum one like American Muscle sells.

I'm trying to find a picture of one that they now put in the 2013's but not having any luck.

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I believe SOME 13s may have the old driveshaft also, sir.

And I remember seeing one on here, but I also have way too many threads to check for it.
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My driveshaft looks nothing like these two. And im in a 2012.
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I have the older barton but I drove a car with the new one and I could not feel the difference. The newer design is easier to install though. I will go.with the mgw as well if and when I do the shifter. I had issues with the sve one so I cant recommend it. The stock shifter with the bracket is a big improvement though and honestly I think I like the stock shifter enough to not swap it out.

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The 2013 looks just like the one in the thread I posted.. wider in the center with the grooves in the shaft on the front side.
I have a 13 manual and has the new ds.
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I have a 13 manual and has the new ds.
pics or it didn't happen
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pics or it didn't happen
Give me 5. I'll try to get one 4 u. Garage is cold! : )
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pics or it didn't happen
O.k not the greatest pic but proof enough.

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One of you guys with an older one crawl under and take a pic pls... lol
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I thought all 13's had the new ds?
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Thats what my 13 looks like.
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No idea. My car was built 6/26/12 if I remember right, so it should have the new shaft.

I was to see an older '11/12 shaft on someone's car here so they can verify it's different. I find it suspect that the shaft in the picture has a carrier bearing.
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They changed them in 2013 from the one on the bottom in the picture which is a stock driveshaft off of a 2011. A 2012 has that same one. The one on the top is an aftermarket aluminum one like American Muscle sells.

I'm trying to find a picture of one that they now put in the 2013's but not having any luck.

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Hi Ronnie the one pwrby4d posted is the one I have in my 13.

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No idea. My car was built 6/26/12 if I remember right, so it should have the new shaft.

I was to see an older '11/12 shaft on someone's car here so they can verify it's different. I find it suspect that the shaft in the picture has a carrier bearing.
You should have it as you car is 2 months newer than mine. From what people say its supposed to be a little lighter,not sure if its true. But is it actually better? Still looks two piece. It might still have the same weak point as the older model.
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It's going to be two piece, they're all two piece, even the GTs.
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No idea. My car was built 6/26/12 if I remember right, so it should have the new shaft.

I was to see an older '11/12 shaft on someone's car here so they can verify it's different. I find it suspect that the shaft in the picture has a carrier bearing.
Mine is in June as well if I remember correct.

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Mine is in June as well if I remember correct.

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Np. Do you know if they are actually better? Visually they look better! : )
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They are lighter which is better. I would think they changed the design because they needed to correct issues.
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They are lighter which is better. I would think they changed the design because they needed to correct issues.
Makes sense.
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I have read some threads of owners.of 11 and 12 cars diving.13's and.saying they feel smoother and less vibration and noise. So that is an improvement. I would still replace it if u are going to track your car though. 2 pc ds is just a bad design from a performance aspect. Ford uses them for less noise... Not because they are more stable.
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The one on the top is aftermarket aluminum.
The one on the bottom is stock V6

I wonder why the stock one's break???

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Is that like a CV joint or somthing in the middle lol. What is that?
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Ok, after looking around, that is a GT driveshaft with the carrier bearing.

http://www.modularfords.com/threads/...-pc-Driveshaft

Here's the infamous '11 that broke, viewed from under the car. Looks just like the '13 unless I'm mistaken. Appears to have separated at the cv joint.

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I'm going to grab the Barton 2-post. Might as well get the best if you're getting one. I have no real plans for a short shifter or I'd be saving for an MGW.
Wait what's the difference between the 2-post and the short shifter? I was thinking about the Barton short shifter because I'm still learning how to drive a manual transmission and think that would help a bit
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Ok, after looking around, that is a GT driveshaft with the carrier bearing.

http://www.modularfords.com/threads/...-pc-Driveshaft

Here's the infamous '11 that broke, viewed from under the car. Looks just like the '13 unless I'm mistaken. Appears to have separated at the cv joint.

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Lol.. That is what I was saying before. Lol. Glad u cleared it up though .
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