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Old 01-26-2013, 08:57 PM   #1
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do I "need" an x pipe?

Im seriously considering buying some BBK long tubes.... im cheap to say the least and could care less what anyone else thinks. A good example is my exhaust that I chopped off just before the rear axle and turned the ends down with 30* bends. I care about power, to hell with the rest. So, Im thinking about dropping out the whole exhaust, putting in the BBK long tubes and then welding new straight exhaust pipes back to my axles and dumping them like before. This would totally eliminate the X pipe and cats, I live in FL so no emissions testing here. My question is, am I going to actually loose power doing this? Im pretty sure that having some back pressure is a good thing but how much? Would the x pipe be the way to create this pressure?
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The X or H will provide a better savaging affect which equals more power and it will also provide better velocity.. Now you'll need a tune with the LT's and if you have your tune adjusted for a divorced set up that straight through you can make the same power in theory..
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I have a tune so no worries there..... just trying to get the most bang for my buck. I have a CAI and the muffler delete works for me. I could ditch the LT's and go with gears...... steeda will install with all parts for $500...hard to beat that. Im worried about loosing torque, the V6 needs all the torque it can get. at least i think so
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'11-12 have a H-pipe.

'13s have a hybrid H/X pipe

However, exhaust on these cars won't make a lot of difference either way. Only change them after you've done gears, tune, and just about anything else that gives bigger numbers.
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Or i could ditch the LT's and go with gears...... steeda will install with all parts for $500...hard to beat that
Great price from a great company!!
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Don't worry bout backpressure, worry bout velocity. No x or h pipe and you'll lose power. X pipe gives couple more HP than h, but nothing u can tell/feel. With your power I'd go 3" pipe with 3.5" tips. If your going to run tips.
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Too big of an exhaust kill torque. These cars suck with torque to begin with...
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Gears are cheap bit install is not.
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this is sounding like gears to me lol
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Too big of an exhaust kill torque. These cars suck with torque to begin with...
I figure most new edges 99-04 with 260hp run 2.5. So 300+ hp, 3" be fine.
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Gears are cheap bit install is not.
I think he is saying $500 for parts and labor? I think lol
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I misread $500 for everything to do gears and install, I'd do that. That's a good deal.
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yea... steeda does it ALL (minus the tune) for 500 plus tax.... so just under $550
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yea... steeda does it ALL (minus the tune) for 500 plus tax.... so just under $550
That's a great price!!! Especially cause you know they know how to get it right the first time!
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exactly. I wouldn't let anyone else do it accept a mustang shop. Im lucky to have a few choices here in FL but Steeda has the best price hands down. I did the research a month or so back but have not had the time to get anything done.
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Im sold.... 3.73 gears it is..... as pop's would say, it's mo betta
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Im sold.... 3.73 gears it is..... as pop's would say, it's mo betta
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I figure most new edges 99-04 with 260hp run 2.5. So 300+ hp, 3" be fine.
You have no idea how engines work.

We might make 305hp, but we make less torque than the 4.6 engines.
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'11-12 have a H-pipe.

'13s have a hybrid H/X pipe

However, exhaust on these cars won't make a lot of difference either way. Only change them after you've done gears, tune, and just about anything else that gives bigger numbers.
I thought 11-13 had the hybrid?
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From pictures I've seen, apparently the '11-12 have a different exhaust from '13.

I know for a fact mine has the hybrid, I've seen it.
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My friends 11 looks the same as my 13's does, but I have a true X now, if it does nothing at all it still saves about 10 pounds
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You have no idea how engines work.

We might make 305hp, but we make less torque than the 4.6 engines.
So nobody that has v6 has 3" exhaust? I never said get rid of cats. The cats will help your torque. Do u know everything?
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As far as the x pipe, I was more getting at the shorty X that is used with long tube headers. On my 2012 the pipe looks allot like the hybrid on the 13. If I had to call it one or the other, well, it looks like an x pipe to me.
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So nobody that has v6 has 3" exhaust? I never said get rid of cats. The cats will help your torque. Do u know everything?
Yup.
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