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Old 02-14-2013, 08:14 AM   #36
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Tech said it sounded normal but to check it even more he would need to open the valve cover. Maybe I am just paranoid from the trouble ived had? Said the lifters adjust with the oil preasure and such
I hate saying it again, but every-time a Tech says the sound is normal, I ask him or her to show me another car in the lot making the noise. I had to do that with the Chevy dealer who said my belt noise on my truck was normal. Turned out to be a bad alternator bearing after days of them having the truck trying to locate the noise.

It seems saying a noise is normal is easier then troubleshoot a very difficult to find noise.
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I hate saying it again, but every-time a Tech says the sound is normal, I ask him or her to show me another car in the lot making the noise. I had to do that with the Chevy dealer who said my belt noise on my truck was normal. Turned out to be a bad alternator bearing after days of them having the truck trying to locate the noise.

It seems saying a noise is normal is easier then troubleshoot a very difficult to find noise.
Service rep contacted me right now they are seeing what they cqn do either replace it or buy it back. How does the buying the car back work and the replacement do I get a new one and dtill owe the same?


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Service rep contacted me right now they are seeing what they cqn do either replace it or buy it back. How does the buying the car back work and the replacement do I get a new one and dtill owe the same?


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Only can speak generalities. Likely a replacement is just that, replacement with a new one and owe the same, perhaps minus a per mile charge in some states.

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A California-based engineer I spoke with who asked to remain anonymous owned a BMW 335 with 900 miles when his vehicle's engine failure problems started. According to this engineer, BMW eventually bought back the car after repeated complaints. "After they agreed to buy the car it was very easy," he says. "I just left it at the dealership and they gave me a check."
Likely this would be pay off the bank plus give you a check for what you put down and paid the bank so far; minus any per mile fees. each deal will always seem to be custom however to the particular financing circumstances.
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My wife owned (leased) a BMW X3 a few years ago. We had it in to the dealership 4 seperate times for a "no start" condition; lights on the dash would light up, but no starter spin. If it sat anywhere from 5 seconds to sometimes 3 hours, it would be fine; it would start right up. We finally had it towed to the dealership and informed them we did not want it back until they could reproduce the fault (they could neer get it to fail when they had it) and fix it. We were provided a BMW loaner; one of the benifits I'll gess in buying/leasing one. They called a few days later and said the lease was being paid off, and our deposit was being refunded (we had that car for 18 months). After the second day, they were able to reproduce the fault, but for whatever reason, they did not want to fix it.

We stayed with BMW and leased another, as they handled it all excellent.

I hope this OP has the same results.
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My wife owned (leased) a BMW X3 a few years ago. We had it in to the dealership 4 seperate times for a "no start" condition; lights on the dash would light up, but no starter spin. If it sat anywhere from 5 seconds to sometimes 3 hours, it would be fine; it would start right up. We finally had it towed to the dealership and informed them we did not want it back until they could reproduce the fault (they could neer get it to fail when they had it) and fix it. We were provided a BMW loaner; one of the benifits I'll gess in buying/leasing one. They called a few days later and said the lease was being paid off, and our deposit was being refunded (we had that car for 18 months). After the second day, they were able to reproduce the fault, but for whatever reason, they did not want to fix it.

We stayed with BMW and leased another, as they handled it all excellent.

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Unfortunately If this was a 2011 or up I know what the problem is. It is a weld on the firewall that had a burr made it to 200 cars. What it does is it cuts through the wiring harness and shorts the wiring out. I spent 16 hours straight hunting and fixing this issue at the plant in SC.
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That's the sign of a good troubleshooter; someone that sticks with it until it's resolved. Hats off to you for that one.
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That's the sign of a good troubleshooter; someone that sticks with it until it's resolved. Hats off to you for that one.
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I used to have to do the same thing for weird software issues back in the dot bomb+ days. Real Trouble Shooting is for Spec Ops
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That's the sign of a good troubleshooter; someone that sticks with it until it's resolved. Hats off to you for that one.
Thanks. Probably going to be pulling more shifts like that in the next few months. The joys of being a robot specialist in an automotive factory
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