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Old 02-10-2013, 06:23 AM   #1
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just my luck, defective mustang?

After having troubles with my hydro bushing that was fixed then recently my transmission was completely replaced due to the synchrnizers destroying themselves... now the small valvetrain noise I notice long ago is louder and sounds like a lifter... all under 5,000 miles just my luck -.- car has not even been run hard or even a burn out or a donut it has not even had it's first race wow... any one else with these problems or is it just ny luck lol... so much for getting a good car deal
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Dude that sucks! Can you post a vid? I'm sure someone here could help you out on what it might be.
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After having troubles with my hydro bushing that was fixed then recently my transmission was completely replaced due to the synchrnizers destroying themselves... now the small valvetrain noise I notice long ago is louder and sounds like a lifter... all under 5,000 miles just my luck -.- car has not even been run hard or even a burn out or a donut it has not even had it's first race wow... any one else with these problems or is it just ny luck lol... so much for getting a good car deal
Is your dealership being cooperative? Or are they giving you the run around?
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Well that sucks. Sounds like bum luck. On the bright side, it all covered under warranty. Right?
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Hey with that low mileage .Make sure you write down everything you feel is wrong with the car. Then have the Dealership check and repair/replace all the problems.If the Dealership is given you the run around, contact Ford directly. You should be able to get all your repairs done under warranty.
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Sounds like the start of a Lemon
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Sounds like the start of a Lemon
+1. Lemon law it and get a new car. We are all human as the things we create
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Hey with that low mileage .Make sure you write down everything you feel is wrong with the car. Then have the Dealership check and repair/replace all the problems.If the Dealership is given you the run around, contact Ford directly. You should be able to get all your repairs done under warranty.
For my hydrobushing every one was given me the run around. I callrd for and basically they said they trust the dealership over me... -.- until I went to the one closest to where my parents live they have been helping me great with all the issues but I am already tired of these warranty issues...

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I have not tune it due to what I had heard about the transmission but once mine got replaced I was about to purchase one then one morning coming back from work I heard the noise even louder and more apparant... here id the link since it is in high quality I could not upload it. The noise is coming from the passenger side valvecover

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For my hydrobushing every one was given me the run around. I callrd for and basically they said they trust the dealership over me... -.- until I went to the one closest to where my parents live they have been helping me great with all the issues but I am already tired of these warranty issues...

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I have not tune it due to what I had heard about the transmission but once mine got replaced I was about to purchase one then one morning coming back from work I heard the noise even louder and more apparant... here id the link since it is in high quality I could not upload it

Holy chit, that sounds like a diesel idling, that def isn't right
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Holy chit, that sounds like a diesel idling, that def isn't right
Yeha.. the noise was there when I purchased it but they told me it the injectors and idk what I thought to myself maybe since it aint the same as older ford engines but always had my doubts...
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After having troubles with my hydro bushing that was fixed then recently my transmission was completely replaced due to the synchrnizers destroying themselves... now the small valvetrain noise I notice long ago is louder and sounds like a lifter... all under 5,000 miles just my luck -.- car has not even been run hard or even a burn out or a donut it has not even had it's first race wow... any one else with these problems or is it just ny luck lol... so much for getting a good car deal
This was a issue on 2011 and some 2012 V6 engines. You don't have lifters but direct impinging metal buckets. Threads up the Kazoo are posted about this issue on the cam lob on the drivers side closest to the fire wall.

Take a long read here, months and months worth of posts. Good news is Ford has a TSB and Jig fix for the issue to get more oil to that cam lobe.

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This was a issue on 2011 and some 2012 V6 engines. You don't have lifters but direct impinging metal buckets. Threads up the Kazoo are posted about this issue on the cam lob on the drivers side closest to the fire wall.

Take a long read here, months and months worth of posts. Good news is Ford has a TSB and Jig fix for the issue to get more oil to that cam lobe.

2011 3.7L V6 Mustang Engine Tick Problem - Ford Mustang Forums
Damn thank you you think the fix is legitimate as in it will be fine or might sustain long term problems. I just want them to replace the engine I already waited for the transmission and it was a pain...
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Damn thank you you think the fix is legitimate as in it will be fine or might sustain long term problems. I just want them to replace the engine I already waited for the transmission and it was a pain...
Does your tick ever go away or is it Always there? If its permanent, they might have to replace the cam or bucket.

To find out if your tick or any noise is normal when a dealership says that, you always ask to hear another car of the same type/year make the same normal noise.

What year is your car, is it new or a very new used car?

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Does your tick ever go away or is it Always there? If its permanent, they might have to replace the cam or bucket.

To find out if your tick or any noise is normal when a dealership says that, you always ask to hear another car of the same type/year make the same normal noise.

What year is your car, is it new or a very new used car?

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Bought it new on September with 30miles on it it is a 2012 manual has 5000 miles now. As for the tick idk if its constant or now because I usually have something else on my mind since working 12 hour shifts and being a full time student tends to burn you out fast...
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Hate to say this but you should try to Lemmon law it. It depends on where you live and the rules change by state I think. But you should look into it and see if it's worth Going thru to get a new car.....there should be no issues at all with a new car if you ask me. You buy a new car for confidence that you have a great running car for the foreseeable future. If no one cared about the guarantee of reliability then you would see allot less new cars being sold.

You should do the research and start talking to Ford directly. Try to talk to someone higher up the food chain about your concerns. Don't be mean just talk it out. If the person is helpful then get a name and number so that one person can help you every time.

Whatever you do, don't tune it or do any mods. Last thing you need is the dealer to have an easy out.

Good luck man, I hope things work out for ya.
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go to safercar.gov. I just went there and saw a lot of problems regarding the engine and power train which kind of worries me because Mustangs seems to have the highest number of issues regarding the power train over any other car in it's class :/ Then again if there was one thing I would change it would be a NON Chinese transmission
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go to safercar.gov. I just went there and saw a lot of problems regarding the engine and power train which kind of worries me because Mustangs seems to have the highest number of issues regarding the power train over any other car in it's class :/ Then again if there was one thing I would change it would be a NON Chinese transmission
I have been in the Stats world for 2 decades including during the dot com boom. Like many stats, such problems might be from more Mustang owners "hop'in up" cars then say Focus owners. [Big Grin]
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Thabks everyone but honestly im loosing hope on ford and mustangs cause of this **** -.- sounds like a knocking engine more and more and oit of the whole region I live at seems like only one dealership is willing to coarporate... seems like my car loves the dealership.... I love ny mustang but this is just bull crap... loosing faith on the blur oval...
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There is a TSB and a fix for this issue. The dealer that is helping is the one to go with. Try an
reach Deshay a Ford service representative on AFM she will contact your dealership and tell
them to do you right! Salesmen just want to sell cars. Hang in there and see this thru.
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Thabks everyone but honestly im loosing hope on ford and mustangs cause of this **** -.- sounds like a knocking engine more and more and oit of the whole region I live at seems like only one dealership is willing to coarporate... seems like my car loves the dealership.... I love ny mustang but this is just bull crap... loosing faith on the blur oval...
Yeah we even have a Ford Cust service rep that floats around here from time to time. I can't believe the dealership and Ford for saying this is normal. It is clearly not normal. Start looking up the lemon law in your state
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In order to file a lemon law act, the same problem (not different ones) has to be brought back more than 3 times. So far the OP has had different problems, not the same one. That is indeed a bummer.
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Thabks everyone but honestly im loosing hope on ford and mustangs cause of this **** -.- sounds like a knocking engine more and more and oit of the whole region I live at seems like only one dealership is willing to coarporate... seems like my car loves the dealership.... I love ny mustang but this is just bull crap... loosing faith on the blur oval...
Use your VIN to determine the build date of the engine (assuming it is a V6). On another Mustang site, they have a VIN decoder/window sticker creator.

If your V6 was built prior to June 2011 (I think I have this date correct), then it has the early cam caps; There's a TSB on how to correct a tapping noise due to these early caps. It requires a Ford tech to drill oiling holes in them. I looked on my PC, but I no longer have all the details on this. If you have a 2012 or later V6 build date, then this TSB would not apply.
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Even if this TSB does not apply, and it may not since his tick is constant and not just at start up; a knocking engine is not normal. ASK the dealer-ship to show you another V6 mustang making the same "supposed normal" injector noise. They wont be able to. Contact the Ford customer rep, Deshay< on All Ford Mustangs Dot Com listed in this thread.
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Tell her this is not the Ford customer service your father was used to

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I agree it is not normal. I assume his/her Mustang is after the June 2011 build date....

I'd be taking it back, and asking to talk with a regional service rep; be polite, but be firm. Ask for the regional rep's phone number. Get them involved.

Getting angry with the local service rep will get you nowhere; might make you feel good, but your Mustang problem will be the same.

A regional service rep, or Deshay (rep that visits here) should be able to help. PM her.
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I agree it is not normal. I assume his/her Mustang is after the June 2011 build date....

I'd be taking it back, and asking to talk with a regional service rep; be polite, but be firm. Ask for the regional rep's phone number. Get them involved.

Getting angry with the local service rep will get you nowhere; might make you feel good, but your Mustang problem will be the same.

A regional service rep, or Deshay (rep that visits here) should be able to help. PM her.
I just droped it off at my ford dealership they all got around It all the service reps and said that doesn't sound normal....

Told them about Tipton ford in Brownsville where I bought it from and been giving me the run around and said they get customers from them mad because of their service....

I just want a car that won't give me problems just my luck
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That bites! Not sure if the lemon law applies here but it sure sounds like you may have a case. Good luck.
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That bites! Not sure if the lemon law applies here but it sure sounds like you may have a case. Good luck.
How do I lemon law it exactly its my first car I have ever had. I love it but this is unacceptable
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The Lemon Law states that if you have the same problem 3X you are entitled to an exchange or refund. I'm not an attorney, but I have heard it being used for new auto purchases.

Someone on the forum may know more about this law.
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The Lemon Law states that if you have the same problem 3X you are entitled to an exchange or refund. I'm not an attorney, but I have heard it being used for new auto purchases.

Someone on the forum may know more about this law.
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I just called ford told them of my situation I told them causing me headaches casuing me money anf the whole thing told them to buy my car back they gaved me a case number and will follow up with me tomorow what do you guys think...
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I just called ford told them of my situation I told them causing me headaches casuing me money anf the whole thing told them to buy my car back they gaved me a case number and will follow up with me tomorow what do you guys think...
It's a good start. Sucks to hear about the problems your having bro! But try not to lose faith. It will all work out in the end!
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Tech said it sounded normal but to check it even more he would need to open the valve cover. Maybe I am just paranoid from the trouble ived had? Said the lifters adjust with the oil preasure and such
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Tech said it sounded normal but to check it even more he would need to open the valve cover. Maybe I am just paranoid from the trouble ived had? Said the lifters adjust with the oil preasure and such
I'd trust him! I mean if they mess it up its on them.
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In order for you to file a lemon law case, you have to let them try and fix it. If they request to perform a repair, you have to let them try. If you refuse, you may not be able to file for a case.
Google Lemon law, read up on it, and be prepared. You are on your second dealership, and this econd one seems to care about your concerns. Give them a chance. If after one or two attempts the engine is still not correctly fixed, then file. What may be of some trouble here is that they keep saying "its normal".

You may need legal council on this one if it does not easily go your way.
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