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Old 02-26-2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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headers and 0-60

will headers hurt your 0-60 time?
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will headers hurt your 0-60 time?
Heck no bro. The stock manifolds and factory cats lock away a good amount of the cars HP and torque. It is handcuffing the power the car was given. The more cold air sucked into that engine and the faster the air is pushed out via headers and x pipe, the more HP and torque is created. Your 0-60 times will go down because more power. You may loose slight back pressure on low end torque but 3:73 gears will more than make that up and way more. More air in and out of engine, the faster the car will be. My headers are going on next three weeks.
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Heck no bro. The stock manifolds and factory cats lock away a good amount of the cats HP and torque. It is handcuffing the power the car was given. The more cold air sucked into that engine and the faster the air is pushed out via headers and x pipe, the more HP ans torque is created. Your 0-60 times will go down because. You may loose slight back pressure on low end torque but 3:73 gears will more than make that and way more. Hearers. More air in and out of engine, the faster the car will be. Mine are going on next three weeks.
Back pressure is your enemy dude!.. The need for it is a myth. Hence the reason why LT Headers and O/R X-pipe free up HP. They help create zero back pressure.
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Back pressure is your enemy dude!.. The need for it is a myth. Hence the reason why LT Headers and O/R X-pipe free up HP. They help create zero back pressure.
Heck with that back pressure. Lol. Let that engine breath and create more HP and torque. The stock manifolds and cats really handicap the cars given power. Free the engine and unleash the HP and torque
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see that's what I thought! but then I heard it helps top end and top speed but hurts acceleration from a dead stop
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Heck with that back pressure. Lol. Let that engine breath and create more HP and torque. The stock manifolds and cats really handicap the cars given power. Free the engine and unleash the HP and torque
+11. You and I think alike!...
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Back pressure is your enemy dude!.. The need for it is a myth. Hence the reason why LT Headers and O/R X-pipe free up HP. They help create zero back pressure.
That's not true at all. There is a delicate balance between air in and air out. If you have too much room for exhaust to flow out then you do lose power. The LT's and o/r pipes allow for more air flow at higher rpms and raises MAX power, but you lose a little low end. If that was the case they wouldn't make headers with different size openings and collectors, we would all be running 6" exhaust like a diesel has.
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see that's what I thought! but then I heard it helps top end and top speed but hurts acceleration from a dead stop
I have yet to see an real evidence of it hurting you from a dead stop. And I've been reading up on exhaust systems and back pressure since '98!.. So unless your planning to go Turbo, then I suggest doing LTs and a O/R Mid Pipe. (Most turbo kits out there use your stock exhaust manifold)
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I have yet to see an real evidence of it hurting you from a dead stop. And I've been reading up on exhaust systems and back pressure since '98!.. So unless your planning to go Turbo, then I suggest doing LTs and a O/R Mid Pipe. (Most turbo kitsend out there use your stock exhaust manifold)
Man speaks the truth. If you go Turbo leave the stock headers on. If you go supercharger or not, go with headers. It will accelerate the car faster. More HP and torque. Power will be created low, mid and high. Plus the car sounds so bad a$$ with the headers on. Lol! The headers really help get back that lost HP and torque that's a prisoner to the stock manifolds and cats. Free your HP and torque brother. Let my peeps go. Stop repressing that HP and torgue.
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Ight. sweeeet. I jus ordered long tube headers and x pipe!!! thanks guys!!
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Ight. sweeeet. I jus ordered long tube headers and x pipe!!! thanks guys!!
Bro, that's it. I'm right behind ya now. I'm going to order mine right now. Damn it. The peer pressure of this forum. Lmao

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What gears you running?
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I can't wait!!! and 3.73s.
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I can't wait!!! and 3.73s.
Sweet. I just had 3:73 gears installed yesterday along with the one piece aluminum driveshaft. Love those 3:73 gears. Wow. The car pulls hard now from a dead stop.
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what's ur 0-60 and 1/4 mile now?
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what's ur 0-60 and 1/4 mile now?
I have not gone to track yet but yesterday I did a few 0-60 runs and I had that bad boy running 4.8 in the 0-60 MPH. I just got off the phone with American Muscle and ordered the BBK ceramic headers and of road x pipe. Darn the peer pressure on this forum. Lol.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:24 PM   #16
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you think you'll be able to beat a 5.0?
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you think you'll be able to beat a 5.0?
Only if its running on 7 cylinders. Ba ha ha ha ha. Not beating a 5.0. Lol. 10 and under Gt, heck yeah
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:13 PM   #18
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I'm already beating 4.6s. I lost to my friends 5.0 with minor mods by a whole car length. I guess to beat a 5.0 you need to SC right?
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I'm already beating 4.6s. I lost to my friends 5.0 with minor mods by a whole car length. I guess to beat a 5.0 you need to SC right?
Actually bro, if you only lost to a 5.0 by a car length that's pretty darn good. Real good daddy O. What are your current mods? A supercharger would definitely do it then.
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3.73 gears. C & L cai. bama hybrid 93 tune. aluminum DS. Eibach pro suspension kit. lowered. LCA and UCA. Ported throttle body. Widened piping throughout. strut brace.
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3.73 gears. C & L cai. bama hybrid 93 tune. aluminum DS. Eibach pro suspension kit. lowered. LCA and UCA. Ported throttle body. Widened piping throughout. strut brace.
I bet if you got headers and off road X pipe on your car, you could easily pull within a half car length from your buddies 5.0. Those headers and x pipe will really open up that engine and give you a nice amount of HP and torque. Our stock manifolds and cats really rob power from the car. Its keeping the extra HP and torque locked up. The faster you can push all that cold air out the exhaust the more HP and torque you will create.
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makes sense man! I'm pumped. they should be in this Friday. ill probably go with SC over summer. well maybe. idk yet. would a SC kill mpg? it won't right cuz of FI
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makes sense man! I'm pumped. they should be in this Friday. ill probably go with SC over summer. well maybe. idk yet. would a SC kill mpg? it won't right cuz of FI
A supercharger will rock. Your MPG will go down with the supercharger but no idea by how much
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makes sense man! I'm pumped. they should be in this Friday. ill probably go with SC over summer. well maybe. idk yet. would a SC kill mpg? it won't right cuz of FI
I hear that the procharger kit doesn't hurt mpg too much!!
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Ill consider it but the whole reason I got a v6 was for a fast fuel efficient car so I guess if a SC hurts my mpg I mine as well get a v8
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I hear that the procharger kit doesn't hurt mpg too much!!
Oh, well that's good to know. The biggest concern I have with the supercharger is the effects it will have on the engine long term. I wonder how much stress the SC is putting on the engine? I personally keep a car for a long time. Basic bolt on mods are easy and not putting any extra stress on the engine but a supercharger is a little different. I like to keep cars for 150k miles or more and wonder how many mustangs with non factory superchargers are going 150k miles strong.
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Oh, well that's good to know. The biggest concern I have with the supercharger is the effects it will have on the engine long term. I wonder how much stress the SC is putting on the engine? I personally keep a car for a long time. Basic bolt on mods are easy and not putting any extra stress on the engine but a supercharger is a little different. I like to keep cars for 150k miles or more and wonder how many mustangs with non factory superchargers are going 150k miles strong.
Yea that would be my biggest concern too!! These engines are still too new to really tell how much abuse they can take but from the looks of it from project cars from AM & CFM they can take some pretty decent abuse for far.

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Ill consider it but the whole reason I got a v6 was for a fast fuel efficient car so I guess if a SC hurts my mpg I mine as well get a v8
Yea same here that's y I'm leaning more towards a turbo!
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a turbo is better on mpg?
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Ill consider it but the whole reason I got a v6 was for a fast fuel efficient car so I guess if a SC hurts my mpg I mine as well get a v8
I kind of agree with you on that. By the time you spend the 5200 on the procharger plus install price you could of bought a base 5.0. If you spent 23 k for your base pony and say 6k on supercharger with install that's 29k. For 29k you could of bought a 5.0 and right off the bat have 420 HP. I personally think the pro charger supercharger is awesome but way way way overpriced. If it was 2500k I be placing my order but not double for a device that shoves lots of air into the engine. It's awesome but to me not 5200k awesome plus the install price. That's why I didn't buy the 5.0 from the beginning. I love the 5.0. Awesome it is but it was not that awesome for me to pay an extra 7500k for the base car. I would of paid 3k or tops 3.5k more but not double.
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haha yeah bro. I'm in college so I'm not made of money! lol. I love modding cars. so addicting and joining this forum didnt help cuz I'm sinking all my cash into my car! i would like to keep my car till about 120-150k miles and then ill probably get a new v8 but until then ima jus have fun with my sixxer!
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a turbo is better on mpg?
Yea from what I've heard it either doesn't affect it or u could actually see an slight increase!

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I kind of agree with you on that. By the time you spend the 5200 on the procharger plus install price you could of bought a base 5.0. If you spent 23 k for your base pony and say 6k on supercharger with install that's 29k. For 29k you could of bought a 5.0 and right off the bat have 420 HP. I personally think the pro charger supercharger is awesome but way way way overpriced. If it was 2500k I be placing my order but not double for a device that shoves lots of air into the engine. It's awesome but to me not 5200k awesome plus the install price. That's why I didn't buy the 5.0 from the beginning. I love the 5.0. Awesome it is but it was not that awesome for me to pay an extra 7500k for the base car. I would of paid 3k or tops 3.5k more but not double.
True but a supercharged v6 is faster than a base gt for the same maybe even a little cheaper price. Plus better mpg & less insurance. Plus u have a 6 that can beat an 8. But needless to day that 5.0 is amazing..I would love me one of those!
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Yea from what I've heard it either doesn't affect it or u could actually see an slight increase!

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True but a supercharged v6 is faster than a base gt for the same maybe even a little cheaper price. Plus better mpg & less insurance. Plus u have a 6 that can beat an 8. But needless to day that 5.0 is amazing..I would love me one of those!
yeah...until that 5.0 is supercharged also. lol
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yeah...until that 5.0 is supercharged also. lol
Lmao. True but if we're talking dollar for dollar then a s/c 5.0 I way more than a s/c 3.7!
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I know bro! my only problem with the 5.0 is the mpg. I raced my friend with a 5.0 and he says he gets 12 mpg on average. he is selling his 5.0 for a v6 and wants to go my route. it's hard to believe. lmfao.
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I know bro! my only problem with the 5.0 is the mpg. I raced my friend with a 5.0 and he says he gets 12 mpg on average. he is selling his 5.0 for a v6 and wants to go my route. it's hard to believe. lmfao.
That's crazy!!! It's usually the other way around!! Haha. But yea I think these 3.7's have potential especially for the price! Slap a turbo & u got a 400rwhp car with 30mpg! Not too bad!! Hahaha.
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