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Old 03-02-2013, 01:15 AM   #1
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BBK Shorty headers

This may just be a rumor that if floating around some of the forums but I have caught wind of BBK planning to come out with shorty headers for the 3.7 mustang in the next 3-6 weeks...... dont lynch me if it doesnt happen but i think the 3.7 is about to get some love!!!!!!!!!
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This may just be a rumor that if floating around some of the forums but I have caught wind of BBK planning to come out with shorty headers for the 3.7 mustang in the next 3-6 weeks...... dont lynch me if it doesnt happen but i think the 3.7 is about to get some love!!!!!!!!!
Those are pointless unless for turbo applications
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wont know till we see them in a dyno.... I know the stock headers flow pretty well but some may be interested in these
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wont know till we see them in a dyno.... I know the stock headers flow pretty well but some may be interested in these
Everyone knows Shorty's are for turbo's only? Anyone can tell u that bro.
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thats far from true my friend. unless you were being sarcastic, manny people prefer the shorties over LT's. Wheather it is for sound or performance, some people are going to want shorties. That's just the way it is, we both know that.... kinda like trying to convince a ricer that his fart can does not give him bigger balls, you can tell him all day long but he's still going to tear thru first gear at a heart stoping 15mph when he passes the cheerleaders thinking he is the ****.
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thats far from true my friend. unless you were being sarcastic, manny people prefer the shorties over LT's. Wheather it is for sound or performance, some people are going to want shorties. That's just the way it is, we both know that.... kinda like trying to convince a ricer that his fart can does not give him bigger balls, you can tell him all day long but he's still going to tear thru first gear at a heart stoping 15mph when he passes the cheerleaders thinking he is the ****.
Shortys do not provide much HP gain compared to LT but honestly ive only ever seen them used with Turbo's bro but yea u have a point bro i love ur example hahaha
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I wouldn't mind getting shorties. Just to be different also mine is still a DD so it'll be perfect.
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Shortys do not provide much HP gain compared to LT but honestly ive only ever seen them used with Turbo's bro but yea u have a point bro i love ur example hahaha
I know what your getting at brother, in fact, i think the shorties will provide less gain than the LT headers do to be honest. the real question is will it give you a HP and torque bump where as the LT headers give a great HP bump but you loose a touch of torque. If the shorties give only say 15hp gain but a 10 wheel torque gain as well then some might see it as a worthwhile investment..... as far as turbo go's, i have no idea.... we will have to wait and see what BBK has in the works
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I know what your getting at brother, in fact, i think the shorties will provide less gain than the LT headers do to be honest. the real question is will it give you a HP and torque bump where as the LT headers give a great HP bump but you loose a touch of torque. If the shorties give only say 15hp gain but a 10 wheel torque gain as well then some might see it as a worthwhile investment..... as far as turbo go's, i have no idea.... we will have to wait and see what BBK has in the works
I prefer HP since i have Gears to help on my torque issue :p
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I wouldn't mind getting shorties. Just to be different also mine is still a DD so it'll be perfect.
Same here. I drive 100 mile round trip for my job. I don't want a buzzing, droned over headache before 9:30 every morning. I'm going with shorties because it'll look nice seeing chrome/ceramic and having a wee better sound. I'm going with roush too so it'll be perfect.

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I prefer HP since i have Gears to help on my torque issue :p
But! Dear sir, gears don't exactly give you torque numbers. They yield a faster 0-60 time with what little torque our cars have.
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Same here. I drive 100 mile round trip for my job. I don't want a buzzing, droned over headache before 9:30 every morning. I'm going with shorties because it'll look nice seeing chrome/ceramic and having a wee better sound. I'm going with roush too so it'll be perfect.

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But! Dear sir, gears don't exactly give you torque numbers. They yield a faster 0-60 time with what little torque our cars have.
Yea i know they are called torque multipliers because they dont actually give u torque but make u spin ur wheels as if you did
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I look at it this way. The shorties will flow better than stock manifolds giving more power and torque. A bump on power and torque is always a good thing no matter how much. Not to mention you would be ready for a turbo any time you want one. I would also assume they would be better than long tubes for the states with strict emissions laws.
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I look at it this way. The shorties will flow better than stock manifolds giving more power and torque. A bump on power and torque is always a good thing no matter how much. Not to mention you would be ready for a turbo any time you want one. I would also assume they would be better than long tubes for the states with strict emissions laws.
Emissions are okay with a catted mid pipe thats all that counts bro
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Emissions are okay with a catted mid pipe thats all that counts bro
Have you done a smog check on your catted x pipe? Did u pass?
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Have you done a smog check on your catted x pipe? Did u pass?
Yup it passes bro
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They have been taking order for the Short Tube or Long Tube headers for about a month American Muscle Mustang Parts.

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Shorties are a good replacement for stock exhaust manifolds for looks, and their ease of installation. Other than that, they do not offer much in the way of performance. If you're going to spend the money and time replacing the stock exhaust manifolds, buy a set of long tube headers.

If you want flash and easy install, then the shorties are for you. Just don't expect any big performance gains.
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Shorties are a good replacement for stock exhaust manifolds for looks, and their ease of installation. Other than that, they do not offer much in the way of performance. If you're going to spend the money and time replacing the stock exhaust manifolds, buy a set of long tube headers.

If you want flash and easy install, then the shorties are for you. Just don't expect any big performance gains.
Everyone forgets the damn sound aspect of a better flowing header. Js and the cooler temps of ceramics. Better for boosted cars too
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This was a major part of my reasoning. If you go through the effort of removing stock manifolds to replace with headers, why not just go the way of long tube ones to maximize the gain? Short tube are better than stock, yes, but for the effort and price, not much in the way of performance.
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Shorty headers don't prove much for power gains. Test proven. LTs allow a little more flow and have shown small gains. Watch longtubes vs shorty.
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This was a major part of my reasoning. If you go through the effort of removing stock manifolds to replace with headers, why not just go the way of long tube ones to maximize the gain? Short tube are better than stock, yes, but for the effort and price, not much in the way of performance.
I get to run my lethal performance H pipe with no modification. Once again, don't care over performance. Some stuff is just for show and sound. Plus they are like $350. Longs are almost $100 cause of that and the shorty pipe you have to buy as well
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I get to run my lethal performance H pipe with no modification. Once again, don't care over performance. Some stuff is just for show and sound. Plus they are like $350. Longs are almost $100 cause of that and the shorty pipe you have to buy as well
You get more sound with LT since u say u wabt sound.

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I get to run my lethal performance H pipe with no modification. Once again, don't care over performance. Some stuff is just for show and sound. Plus they are like $350. Longs are almost $100 cause of that and the shorty pipe you have to buy as well
You get even more airflow which makes more sound lol
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aren't shorties supposed to help low end which means 0-60?
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aren't shorties supposed to help low end which means 0-60?
Very little so little its not even noticable in my opinion but like he said he wants sound and looks not power
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You get more sound with LT since u say u wabt sound.

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You get even more airflow which makes more sound lol
But! Supercharger later.
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But! Supercharger later.
Lol long tubes r better for S/C
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All I can say is if I were going to do headers, it would be the shorties, long tubes are nice but even with a catted X-Pipe the car would never pass a visual inspection in most states.
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I live in a State where parts already have emission testing and the full state is not far behind, After fighting with the state of California more than 25 years ago about emission controls I will leave the stock Emissions in place. I am not going to change it back for emissions.
To all that are running High Flow Cats or Catless good luck and I hope you keep all of your old parts.
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All I can say is if I were going to do headers, it would be the shorties, long tubes are nice but even with a catted X-Pipe the car would never pass a visual inspection in most states.
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I live in a State where parts already have emission testing and the full state is not far behind, After fighting with the state of California more than 25 years ago about emission controls I will leave the stock Emissions in place. I am not going to change it back for emissions.
To all that are running High Flow Cats or Catless good luck and I hope you keep all of your old parts.
I run LT Headers and high flow catted xpipe. I pass both visual and emissions testing so long I have my street tune on acouple days prior to the testing. I just got my testing done a month ago. The inspector told me the LT were okay so long I have catalytic Converters. And since he saw them and did the smog/sniffer testing he passed me and I was on my way
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aren't shorties supposed to help low end which means 0-60?
F those shorties. I've been rolling a shorty my whole life and I was tired of it. That's why I got me a long one.. The ladies hate the shorty bro. Just saying. Ba ha ha haha
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Those are pointless unless for turbo applications
Even with a turbo, you have to have your own *custom* headers. Someone please correct me if in wrong.
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I run LT Headers and high flow catted xpipe. I pass both visual and emissions testing so long I have my street tune on acouple days prior to the testing. I just got my testing done a month ago. The inspector told me the LT were okay so long I have catalytic Converters. And since he saw them and did the smog/sniffer testing he passed me and I was on my way
Bro where did you get the carted x pipe? If I can get the catted x and long tubes, I will be happy chap.
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Even with a turbo, you have to have your own *custom* headers. Someone please correct me if in wrong.
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Even with a turbo, you have to have your own *custom* headers. Someone please correct me if in wrong.
I have seen Turbo Set ups that ran off the stock manifolds as well as some that came with there own headers, personally I would rather have the system that used its own header for flow purposes.
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Bro where did you get the carted x pipe? If I can get the catted x and long tubes, I will be happy chap.
Bro its on American muscle lol btw I am selling mine for 300 compared to 450+ on american muscle
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F those shorties. I've been rolling a shorty my whole life and I was tired of it. That's why I got me a long one.. The ladies hate the shorty bro. Just saying. Ba ha ha haha
hahaha I feel ya on that. I already have long tubes. I was jw.
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