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Old 03-13-2013, 04:31 PM   #1
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shorty headers

so AM has shorties now for the 3.7! I want to get my 0-60 down a bit more and long tubes take away low end torque hurting low end acceleration and shorties do te opposite? am I right? plz correct me if I am wrong.
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I just had a forum and they pretty much told me its for underthe hood looks and to replace stock.

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do you know if long tubes hurt 0-60?
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do you know if long tubes hurt 0-60?
Short headers do not provide any additional power acceleration benefits over your factory manifolds. The shorties are a waste of money if your looking for power gains. The shorties are just for looks. If you want to improve your 0-60 times , go buy headers and x pipe. More air in, more air out, more HP and torque is created. The faster the pony will go.
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I thought 0-60 depended on low end torque therefore shouldn't long tubes hurt It. I understand what ur saying more airflow = better hp. I have longtubes but jw if switching to shorties would help my 0-60.
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I thought 0-60 depended on low end torque therefore shouldn't long tubes hurt It. I understand what ur saying more airflow = better hp. I have longtubes but jw if switching to shorties would help my 0-60.
My low end torque never felt more powerful since I installed my long tube headers an x pipe. People claim you loose some low end torque. Idk, but I'm rolling around 4.7 to 4.8 on my 0-60 runs and I couldn't be more pleased with those numbers. If you switched to shorty headers that would be like installing your factory stock manifolds back on. Of course with one exception, you already have the manifolds for free, where the shorties are gonna cost ya 400 bucks or so. Shorty headers are waste of good other mod money when it comes to performance. Now, looks wise,the shorty headers look way nicer than the stock manifolds .

What kind of 0-60 times you looking to achieve? Where you want to be at time wise?
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ah gotcha. I am running I think the same set up as you are I believe. I think the only option to get it below 4.7 sec is FI. right?
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ah gotcha. I am running I think the same set up as you are I believe. I think the only option to get it below 4.7 sec is FI. right?
I think your right on that. I would think you need some shots of NOS, supercharger or turbo charger. But after spending the money it cost to supercharge or turbo charge it to get under 4.7 0-60, better off just buying a 5.0 from jump. Lol. I couldn't be happier with 4.7 to 4.8 0-60 runs. Heck, I'm happy being just under 5 flat
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true that bro!
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true that bro!
Oh, by the way, I really dig your stripes on your white car. It looks really classy and nice
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thanks bro. jus gotta get my rims painted or new black rims and the look will be complete n I have already told you this but your stripes are sick. I woulda done that if I hadn't done mine already!
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thanks bro. jus gotta get my rims painted or new black rims and the look will be complete n I have already told you this but your stripes are sick. I woulda done that if I hadn't done mine already!
Thanks man. I really appreciate that. It's nice to really put some personal touches onto a car to make it stand out from the average other guys mustang. Black rims on your white car will look great. It will really make your white paint pop more with the black wheels. Plus, black rims are way easier to keep clean and don't show the dirt like chrome wheels.
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thanks bro. jus gotta get my rims painted or new black rims and the look will be complete n I have already told you this but your stripes are sick. I woulda done that if I hadn't done mine already!
Bro, holy cow. Check these rims out I found at tire buyer for our sixer. There to fit 17 inch tires and these all under 140 bucks.



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thanks bro. jus gotta get my rims painted or new black rims and the look will be complete n I have already told you this but your stripes are sick. I woulda done that if I hadn't done mine already!
My next vinyl decal for the roof. Lmao




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hahaha that's funny man! you would really stand out with that badaas decal lol. and those rims are sick man. I will seriously consider those. where did u find those?
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My next vinyl decal for the roof. Lmao
Do it!!!!!!! Hahahahahahaa
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hahaha that's funny man! you would really stand out with that badaas decal lol. and those rims are sick man. I will seriously consider those. where did u find those?
Tire buyer .com. Awesome stuff
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I 'gained' a lot of low end torque with my long tube headers. Just saying......
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Bro I hear that a TBS can add up to 55 HP and 150 ft-lb of torque to your low end if used with the window sticker.
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I'm going shorty headers. Don't care who says otherwise, it's what I want. Already gonna have roush or borla and just changing the mud type ups the volume by like 11. Just me.
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I'm going shorty headers. Don't care who says otherwise, it's what I want. Already gonna have roush or borla and just changing the mud type ups the volume by like 11. Just me.
Yeah man. Rock out bro. If you want the shorty headers then you need to place that order. Lol
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I didnt read all the way thru this but I though I would add my .02...... you are correct saying that you are loosing some torque with the LT's, however the high end HP makes up for it easily. The 3.7 motor produces most of its power over 3K RPM so that's where you should try to make it strongest. With the LT's and a catless X pipe you are looking at loosing less than 10rwtq (rear wheel torque) and gaining something like 25HP if what people claim is actually true. Your 60' time can be improved with gears and wider rear tires. Im not sure what your mods are but think of it like this.... gears increase torque but it takes more HP to spin the wheels now, LT's add HP but take a touch of torque away... separate there is a trade off, together they improve on each other... its a winning combo!


For those of you that go with shorties I would love to see some dyno info... I run the stock headers and do pretty well with them so Im not in any big rush to change it up but I would like to see if there is a gain.... I would bet that there is some sort of gain, it may not be huge but im sure there is something there
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...You tryin to be like me????
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...You tryin to be like me????
Darn right bro. You have wisdom beyond your years. Lol.
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Darn right bro. You have wisdom beyond your years. Lol.
Haha perhaps. Although I still consider myself the young grasshopper among you and Charlie.
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Haha perhaps. Although I still consider myself the young grasshopper among you and Charlie.
Well, learn the ways of the mustang my young padawan pony. Let the pony power flow through you.
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As far as sound goes, one could expect a tad bit of loudness? No? Least your ish will run cooler
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I 'gained' a lot of low end torque with my long tube headers. Just saying......
Now if you could only get it to hook up
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Now if you could only get it to hook up
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Now they just need to make equal length shorties and well have something good
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I think I'll wait on the shorty headers. That way in case of any problems, they will be fixed when I am ready to order them. Made the mistake many years ago, to buy a car that was released and boy did the problems ever surface. Waited for over a year to buy the 2013 Mustang, just to give a little time in case the new engine had problems.
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I think I'll wait on the shorty headers. That way in case of any problems, they will be fixed when I am ready to order them. Made the mistake many years ago, to buy a car that was released and boy did the problems ever surface. Waited for over a year to buy the 2013 Mustang, just to give a little time in case the new engine had problems.
The new engine? The remodel was in 11, so by 13 I think you were safe to buy on release lol.
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I have so much trouble putting power down already that I'm holding off on any power adder till I get the wheel hop situation handled.... Curse of higher HP cars
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