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Old 04-22-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
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Whats the "S" mean

Ok while I'm waiting for my 5.0 in service getting down, I was walking in showroom and saw a standard v6 stang, this may be dumb question, but this is far different then my auto shift column. What does the s mean
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Ok while I'm waiting for my 5.0 in service getting down, I was walking in showroom and saw a standard v6 stang, this may be dumb question, but this is far different then my auto shift column. What does the s mean
That's the new sport mode for the 13+ V6 and GTs.
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Ok while I'm waiting for my 5.0 in service getting down, I was walking in showroom and saw a standard v6 stang, this may be dumb question, but this is far different then my auto shift column. What does the s mean
Selectashift. It's like a tiptronic system where you can manually shift up and down.
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does it let you go faster than jus a normal auto
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Selectashift. It's like a tiptronic system where you can manually shift up and down.
Oh ok,
For about 22k not a bad car for that amount.
The cloth is pretty durable too
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does it let you go faster than jus a normal auto
No, just more fun on curvy roads.
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Basically replacing the options of going into the 1st 2nd and 3rd gear and being able to pick all of them
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It is a more aggressive shifting pattern when you drop it in S and let it run as an automatic. Much firmer shifts, winds it out a little more in each gear, and keeps it from going to 6 (overdrive). At the track I get better times if I remember to put it in S for a pass.

Once in S you have the option of letting it run automatic, or using the +/- button to shift for yourself.

That was why it took some time before the tuners could do tunes on the 2013 automatic. They had 2 different transmission tunes to work on with the new programming from the factory.
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I've owned one v6 stang in my life, I won't ever go back!!
It's pretty good buy and sporty too for person that wants a stang, but doesn't want to spend a fortune.
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It is a more aggressive shifting pattern when you drop it in S and let it run as an automatic. Much firmer shifts, winds it out a little more in each gear, and keeps it from going to 6 (overdrive). At the track I get better times if I remember to put it in S for a pass.

Once in S you have the option of letting it run automatic, or using the +/- button to shift for yourself.

That was why it took some time before the tuners could do tunes on the 2013 automatic. They had 2 different transmission tunes to work on with the new programming from the factory.
Jim is correct. S Mode without using +\- is very much the same as the grade assist button on the side of the shifter in 2011/2012 automatic models.
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From the 2013 owners manual:

Position S
Moving the gearshift lever to position:
• Provides additional grade (engine) braking and extends lower gear
operation to enhance performance for uphill climbs, hilly terrain or
mountainous areas. This will increase engine RPM during engine braking.
• Provides additional lower gear operation through the automatic
transmission shift strategy which reacts to vehicle inputs (vehicle
acceleration, accelerator pedal, brake pedal and vehicle speed).
• Gears are selected more quickly and at higher engine speeds.
Note: The system will stay in position S until the gear shift lever is
moved into another gear for example position P or position D.
SelectShift Automatic® Transmission
Your SelectShift automatic transmission gives you the ability to manually
change gears if you would like. To use SelectShift, move the gearshift
lever into position S. Now you can use the thumb toggle on the side of
your gearshift lever to select gears.
• Press (+) on the gearshift lever
to manually upshift the
transmission.
• Press (–) on the gearshift lever
to manually downshift the
transmission.
The information display in the instrument cluster will show the selected
gear you are currently in.
In order to prevent the engine from running at too low an RPM, which
may cause it to stall, SelectShift will automatically make some downshifts
even if it has determined that you have not downshifted in time.
Although the SelectShift will make some downshifts for you, it will still
allow you to downshift at any time as long as the SelectShift determines
that the engine will not be damaged from over-revving.
Note: Engine damage may occur if excessive engine revving is held
without shifting.
Note: Some models have a blink feature (if equipped). If manually
selecting a gear that is out of the current vehicle speed range, the
vehicle will not make the requested shift and will blink the current gear.164 Transmission
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Great thread. As I read and developed questioned the next post would answer them. Big thumbs up for everyone involved
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Thanks Bucko. That's the latest printing. It doesn't say as the first printing did but I don't believe it locks out 6th gear such as grade assist does.
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Cool information, I didn't realize it would shift for you. Just a more aggressive shifting pattern. Almost like a mini race tune.
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I was testing this out today & if u put it I'm S mode & don't touch the buttons to go up or down it shifts on its on but once u shift it your self u have to keep shifting it!
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I was testing this out today & if u put it I'm S mode & don't touch the buttons to go up or down it shifts on its on but once u shift it your self u have to keep shifting it!
True. Once you shift yourself it puts it in manual mode. Only way back to S is D then S. You can do that when driving however. See if it shifts to 6th in S Mode. I believe it does. My 2012 grade assist mode locks out 6th. But then I just turn it off on the freeway. 6th gear at 40 mph is overkill.
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Thanks Bucko. That's the latest printing. It doesn't say as the first printing did but I don't believe it locks out 6th gear such as grade assist does.
You can go here and download a PDF copy of your owners manual for free. They have the latest revision available for your year:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...ls/default.asp
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Thanks Bucko. That's the latest printing. It doesn't say as the first printing did but I don't believe it locks out 6th gear such as grade assist does.
I can verify with lots of HyWay driving in "S" mode that overdrive does not seem to kick in "for me" until I return it to the "D" mode, then RPMs drop from 2100 to 1800 at about 72-75 with a 2.73 and 18" rear Neos. I just drove it to 'Bama and back from Northern Ohio over the last 5 days. I like it in "S" while you are on all those hills, mountain passes etc. with traffic all around you. Keeps the car and you on your toes.
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S mode locks out the overdrive. You will not get into 6 no matter how long you drive it. Have you noticed that in the 2013+ there is no "OD" button to turn it off like in earlier models? That's because S is the only way to keep the car out of overdrive.

Once you move to D you turn the overdrive back on and if you are up to speed the transmission will shift to 6 and you will see the RPM's drop.

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Position D with overdrive
The normal driving position for the best fuel economy. The transmission
operates in gears one through six. The automatic transmission shift
strategy has the ability to detect hilly terrain or mountainous areas and
will provide a limited amount of grade assist features automatically.
You only have overdrive IF you are in D, that is the selection that is "with overdrive" or 6th gear.
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S mode locks out the overdrive. You will not get into 6 no matter how long you drive it. Have you noticed that in the 2013+ there is no "OD" button to turn it off like in earlier models? That's because S is the only way to keep the car out of overdrive.

Once you move to D you turn the overdrive back on and if you are up to speed the transmission will shift to 6 and you will see the RPM's drop.

You only have overdrive IF you are in D, that is the selection that is "with overdrive" or 6th gear.
When you manually shift in S mode you can in fact shift to 6th, I use it to pretend I'm driving a manual, which is what I really want
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S mode locks out the overdrive. You will not get into 6 no matter how long you drive it. Have you noticed that in the 2013+ there is no "OD" button to turn it off like in earlier models? That's because S is the only way to keep the car out of overdrive.

Once you move to D you turn the overdrive back on and if you are up to speed the transmission will shift to 6 and you will see the RPM's drop.

You only have overdrive IF you are in D, that is the selection that is "with overdrive" or 6th gear.
Thanks guys then S is just like my grade assist button.
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When you manually shift in S mode you can in fact shift to 6th, I use it to pretend I'm driving a manual, which is what I really want
That is true, if you shift it yourself you can take it all the way to overdrive. But the comments were related to the fact that when put into S and allowed to shift as an automatic people were saying "it doesn't seem to shift to 6th" - correct, because running Sport mode as an automatic locks out overdrive.

Three different transmission settings for the 2013+ automatic - D for normal 1 - 6 automatic shifting; S for automatic but with overdrive locked out and more aggressive shifting program; and S but using the +/- buttons to shift for yourself.
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That is true, if you shift it yourself you can take it all the way to overdrive. But the comments were related to the fact that when put into S and allowed to shift as an automatic people were saying "it doesn't seem to shift to 6th" - correct, because running Sport mode as an automatic locks out overdrive.

Three different transmission settings for the 2013+ automatic - D for normal 1 - 6 automatic shifting; S for automatic but with overdrive locked out and more aggressive shifting program; and S but using the +/- buttons to shift for yourself.
Sorry; the thread was TL;DR (thoroughly) haha.
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