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Old 05-01-2013, 10:31 PM   #1
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Exhaust Upgrade Question

After a month of waiting for my Borla S-Type to come in the mail, I finally got them today and installed. I'm currently running them, JLT CAI, & 93R Tune. I live in an area where emission testing is mandatory. I want to get long tube headers and catted shorty X-Pipe, but to me it's extremely pricey. I get enough sound from my Borla exhaust, so is the 25HP or so worth this investment? Would it be better if I just changed out my gears to 3.73 or 4.10 instead? Before someone says both, that's not an option for me right now. I hate my factory wheels and that has to be done this summer. So for me it's do my exhaust system or gears. Need opinions and why
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Id do exhaust. Cars run on air flow and fuel and the smoother the flow the better imo. But if you hate the stock gears go with the gears
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gears bro. makes hella difference. I don't think exhaust is as important at least for right now. btw how do you like the s types?
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gears bro. makes hella difference. I don't think exhaust is as important at least for right now. btw how do you like the s types?
Worth every single penny. Especially since I pulled up on a 2010 GT and he hated being the quiet one out the gate. He chased me down to see what kinda engine I got. He looked real embarrassed when I told him a 3.7 LOL
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Worth every single penny. Especially since I pulled up on a 2010 GT and he hated being the quiet one out the gate. He chased me down to see what kinda engine I got. He looked real embarrassed when I told him a 3.7 LOL
that's sick man. I'm caught between those the roush and the ataks
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After a month of waiting for my Borla S-Type to come in the mail, I finally got them today and installed. I'm currently running them, JLT CAI, & 93R Tune. I live in an area where emission testing is mandatory. I want to get long tube headers and catted shorty X-Pipe, but to me it's extremely pricey. I get enough sound from my Borla exhaust, so is the 25HP or so worth this investment? Would it be better if I just changed out my gears to 3.73 or 4.10 instead? Before someone says both, that's not an option for me right now. I hate my factory wheels and that has to be done this summer. So for me it's do my exhaust system or gears. Need opinions and why
Ill sell you my catted bbk xpipe for 300 thats 150 off even more I think
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Go gears. 3.73. 4.10 is hard for street driving, especially with a 93Race tune. The LT's with the tune should give you a bit better than 25 RWHP, but catted x pipes have a funny rattling can sound. But you will feel a better acceleration/performance gain from the gears. My gears made a bigger change in sucking me into my seat than my LT's, TB, CAI... Everything.
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Go gears. 3.73. 4.10 is hard for street driving, especially with a 93Race tune. The LT's with the tune should give you a bit better than 25 RWHP, but catted x pipes have a funny rattling can sound. But you will feel a better acceleration/performance gain from the gears. My gears made a bigger change in sucking me into my seat than my LT's, TB, CAI... Everything.
Rattle sound? I have NO idea what ur talking about haha
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You have catted x pipe Charlie? I went catless and have only heard other Ponys rev and it sounds like a rattling tone to the sound, not like something's loose, just a vibration sound that, to me, is worth changing my exhaust out every three years. (Germany only requires me to do the TÜV, their version of smog, once every three years.)
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You have catted x pipe Charlie? I went catless and have only heard other Ponys rev and it sounds like a rattling tone to the sound, not like something's loose, just a vibration sound that, to me, is worth changing my exhaust out every three years. (Germany only requires me to do the TÜV, their version of smog, once every three years.)
I only hear that sound from flowmaster mufflers
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Could be, I can't remember off the top of my head what exhaust they were running, just that they told me they had catted pipes with LT's, and can't remember if they had resonators either.
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Could be, I can't remember off the top of my head what exhaust they were running, just that they told me they had catted pipes with LT's, and can't remember if they had resonators either.
The cats do nothing sound wise since they are high flow.
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Yeah, I understand they're high flow, but not as much as a catless. I think the decision to go with either has a lot of variables.
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Yeah, I understand they're high flow, but not as much as a catless. I think the decision to go with either has a lot of variables.
The performance gains I have tested was 2-3hp so I found it the same.
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Oh. I didn't know the gain was so small. I guess high flow cats have came a long way.
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Oh. I didn't know the gain was so small. I guess high flow cats have came a long way.
Yup my friend got 4 dyno pulls for 80 so we did two with off road xpipe and two with my catted xpipe
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Thanks guys. I think I'm going to go with gears for right now. I think I'm almost completely talked out of the shorty carted X-Pipe
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Enjoy bro. They LT's and x pipe are a future must, but you'll get so much more performance out of the gears. What ratio you going with?
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Oh. I didn't know the gain was so small. I guess high flow cats have came a long way.
I'm going to go with 3.73. Heard to many bad reviews on the 4.10
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I'm going to go with 3.73. Heard to many bad reviews on the 4.10
wise choice man.
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wise choice man.
My buddy has 4.10s no problens there. He weny from 3.73 to 4.10s
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But yeah Charlie, is he running mostly stock with 4.10's? Those are straight up drag gears. I knew a dude who had them a while back and it was such a jerky ride, even when he was trying to drive smooth. 3.73's can go to the strip and still be a street driver, a bit aggressive but still...

And by the way, you know a lot of people with some bad *** Ponys. Sucks here in Europe. Everyone is stock. Raced a GT on the way to Frankfurt today and whooped him. Everyone is stock. It's kinda lame. Being the only one who is aware of AM...
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But yeah Charlie, is he running mostly stock with 4.10's? Those are straight up drag gears. I knew a dude who had them a while back and it was such a jerky ride, even when he was trying to drive smooth. 3.73's can go to the strip and still be a street driver, a bit aggressive but still...

And by the way, you know a lot of people with some bad *** Ponys. Sucks here in Europe. Everyone is stock. Raced a GT on the way to Frankfurt today and whooped him. Everyone is stock. It's kinda lame. Being the only one who is aware of AM...
Lmfao he is FAR from stock. Hes 9k deep into his car. If chris jumps in here which he will cuz ill text him he will tell u how sick n fast his mustang is. His v6 beats 5.0s all motor. Hes about to drop another 6k to get forged heads, internals, custom intake mani, and spray 250 shots. He will give a shelby a run for there money if not beat them when he is done.
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That's what I'm saying bro, a sick *** pony like that NEEDS 4.10's. A stock would benefit better with 3.73's, no?

---------- Post added at 07:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 PM ----------

But now you got me wanting 4.10's... I've got everything but FI, because dropping 5k is a big deal for me...(also no forged internals, no need, yet)
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That's what I'm saying bro, a sick *** pony like that NEEDS 4.10's. A stock would benefit better with 3.73's, no?

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But now you got me wanting 4.10's... I've got everything but FI, because dropping 5k is a big deal for me...(also no forged internals, no need, yet)
Well if you wanna beat ppl off the line and on the long run the 4.10s r awesome but make 1st almost useless lol so I would say 3.73 for manuals and 4.10s for auto unless your gna go balls deep with mods
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I don't know why this forum is so timid of 4:10's. They aren't an overtly aggressive gear and work fine for street driving. My friend has 4:56 in his car and he hasn't complained about them yet, and the car drives fine. When I do rear end work I'm gonna swap out my 3:73 to 4:10 most likely.
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Wait... Why do 4.10's kill first?
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Wait... Why do 4.10's kill first?
Higher the gears faster the rpm goes up
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I too was going for 3.73 but now considering 4.10s Any links to a 4.10 3.7 manual on YouTube? I couldn't really find any.
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I too was going for 3.73 but now considering 4.10s Any links to a 4.10 3.7 manual on YouTube? I couldn't really find any.
My buddy has 4.10 gears on his 3.7 and yea his 1st is almost useless basically haha he starts going and about 2 seconds later he has to shift and thats at 4500rpm lol
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My buddy has 4.10 gears on his 3.7 and yea his 1st is almost useless basically haha he starts going and about 2 seconds later he has to shift and thats at 4500rpm lol
What r u running?
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4.10s are completely different on these 2011+ mustangs. In a 2003 cobra the first gear ratio is 2.66, but in a 2011+ v6 mustang first is 4.236. That would make a huge difference.
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What r u running?
3.73 I had 4.10s but it wasted too much gas
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3.73 I had 4.10s but it wasted too much gas
Lmfao ok
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Lmfao ok
***** I did!! Wanna bet on it I have proof! $20 says I had 4.10s
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