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Old 08-13-2013, 07:08 AM   #1
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Gear break in question.

I'm going to go 3.73s very shortly but I might have a problem. The garage I'm going to is two hours away to get it done and I'm worried about the highway driving on the way back. There really is no way I can do the proper heat cycle for the break in. Any suggestions? The reason I'm going so far is because I'm getting a free install.
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Try taking the long way home. No interstates.
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Spend the night there, do your heat cycles in that town.
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I'm going to go 3.73s very shortly but I might have a problem. The garage I'm going to is two hours away to get it done and I'm worried about the highway driving on the way back. There really is no way I can do the proper heat cycle for the break in. Any suggestions? The reason I'm going so far is because I'm getting a free install.
How much would it cost you to have it done locally? It comes down to how much are you willing to gamble. If it's around $200 for an install plus whatever the price of the gears, is it worth it?
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Where I'm going 0 for install, $159 for gears from AM. Locally best price I got was 650 gears and tax included.
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I broke mine in for bout 50 miles then wot. No problems here
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I broke mine in for bout 50 miles then wot. No problems here
You may be lucky. Ford puts those instructions for a reason.
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Where I'm going 0 for install, $159 for gears from AM. Locally best price I got was 650 gears and tax included.
Looks like Obama is screwing Canada also. Hope everything works for you.
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If it's done right, everything will be fine. Do you think they baby race cars, I think not.
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Looks like Obama is screwing Canada also. Hope everything works for you.
Really? Huh?

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If it's done right, everything will be fine. Do you think they baby race cars, I think not.
Nope. But they don't skimp on proper installation procedures. Thats how do not finish a race
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Most race car use a different rear then street cars

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If it's done right, everything will be fine. Do you think they baby race cars, I think not.
They usually use a "Quick Change differential" But the ring and pinions were usually seated in properly when not racing.

Every race car owner and driver I have known over the years have always seated in the rear end gears for at least 40/50 miles.

I did sponsor some race cars in the good old days and found that the guy's that did not do things right might have had fun racing but usually were always in the back of the pack or did not finish at all.



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They usually use a "Quick Change differential" But the ring and pinions were usually seated in properly when not racing.

Every race car owner and driver I have known over the years have always seated in the rear end gears for at least 40/50 miles.

I did sponsor some race cars in the good old days and found that the guy's that did not do things right might have had fun racing but usually were always in the back of the pack or did not finish at all.



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I'm not talking about a circle track car. Go to a drag racing forum and ask the question. I think you'll find, they break the rear end in a 1/4mi at a time.
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Sooo from what ive seen its suggested to go about 200 miles and 5-6 heat cycles for break in?? What rpms does everyone keep it under?
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Sooo from what ive seen its suggested to go about 200 miles and 5-6 heat cycles for break in?? What rpms does everyone keep it under?
whats a heat cycles?

im getting gears this Monday and install Wednesday
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Allowing them to heat up then cool down (driving then stopping and cutting off to cool off)
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Where I'm going 0 for install, $159 for gears from AM. Locally best price I got was 650 gears and tax included.
Did you contact any shops and ask how much if you supplied the gears?
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Where I'm going 0 for install, $159 for gears from AM. Locally best price I got was 650 gears and tax included.
dam that a lot im getting mine install for 150
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Did you contact any shops and ask how much if you supplied the gears?
Best I got was 500 + tax (15%). That was just labor. I had to supply the gear oil and gears. These are just everyday garages from around here. My $659 quote is from a place called mustang direct which is well know for their work around here. I'm sure I could find a little cheaper but I won't trust my car to a tiny hole in the wall garage! The two hour trip is out to my brothers garage that will do the work for me but I want to do the correct heat cycles.
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Best I got was 500 + tax (15%). That was just labor. I had to supply the gear oil and gears. These are just everyday garages from around here. My $659 quote is from a place called mustang direct which is well know for their work around here. I'm sure I could find a little cheaper but I won't trust my car to a tiny hole in the wall garage! The two hour trip is out to my brothers garage that will do the work for me but I want to do the correct heat cycles.
Can't you just chill with him and do the cycles? Are there stops on that trip that you can make for an hour at a time?

Seems you could just stay in that area for a night and do the break in process.
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Best I got was 500 + tax (15%). That was just labor. I had to supply the gear oil and gears. These are just everyday garages from around here. My $659 quote is from a place called mustang direct which is well know for their work around here. I'm sure I could find a little cheaper but I won't trust my car to a tiny hole in the wall garage! The two hour trip is out to my brothers garage that will do the work for me but I want to do the correct heat cycles.
for 150 im getting oil install and everything warranty
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i had an hour and halfish drive. i made 3 30 minute stops
just go really hungry
and stop by 4 fast food restaurants and spend 30 minutes to eat
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im still confused on the heat cycles thing where im getting my gears at is a 30min drive back home
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Do a smokey burn out and 2 1/4 mile pulls you will be fine. But for real when I put mine in drove maybe a total of two miles ate then I raced that night and they've been on for about 10000 miles no problems!
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Heat cycles? What's this? When you bought your Mustang new, did you do "heat cycles" with the rear gearing it came with then? Why now?

Just get in and drive it home and enjoy the ride with the new gearing.
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Heat cycles? What's this? When you bought your Mustang new, did you do "heat cycles" with the rear gearing it came with then? Why now?

Just get in and drive it home and enjoy the ride with the new gearing.
This is kind of what I was thinking, but didn't want to say out of the fear of getting flamed lol
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Im just going off what was posted by an AM rep who recommended about 200 miles of city driving along with 5 heat cycles, I bought their product so I'll just be cautious that little bit of time and play it safe...but thats just me your car, your gears, do what you want.
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Im just going off what was posted by an AM rep who recommended about 200 miles of city driving along with 5 heat cycles, I bought their product so I'll just be cautious that little bit of time and play it safe...but thats just me your car, your gears, do what you want.
I was also told this at mustang direct where I got my quote. Metal expands and contracts with heat and cold, that's why I assume they are recommending the heat cycles at first to make sure everything seats properly. Coming from the ford factory everything will heat cycle together.
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I was also told this at mustang direct where I got my quote. Metal expands and contracts with heat and cold, that's why I assume they are recommending the heat cycles at first to make sure everything seats properly.
Cycling permits optimum tempering of the metals. There's a measure of alignment that will take place through this. It can prevent chipping later among other things.
With cars being so consumer friendly, Ford doesn't need to worry customers with break in optimization.

More experienced or concerned owners go "above and beyond" factory recommendations as they see fit.

Personally, I will follow break in. With racing nitro cars and many years of tinkering with real cars...I can say that properly broken in parts have ALWAYS performed better for me.
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Cycling permits optimum tempering of the metals. There's a measure of alignment that will take place through this. It can prevent chipping later among other things.
With cars being so consumer friendly, Ford doesn't need to worry customers with break in optimization.

More experienced or concerned owners go "above and beyond" factory recommendations as they see fit.

Personally, I will follow break in. With racing nitro cars and many years of tinkering with real cars...I can say that properly broken in parts have ALWAYS performed better for me.
+1 I will follow the break in procedure they give me.
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Just allow something to break in...nothing can go wrong with caution.
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Just allow something to break in...nothing can go wrong with caution.
I agree, why chance it.
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Just allow something to break in...nothing can go wrong with caution.
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how much gear oil do you need
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