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Old 08-30-2013, 01:30 PM   #36
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Yes I said it: A really bad idea said it again.

Filling the holes with duct tape on the inside would not be to wise. That is unless you really want it to come loose and be sucked into the MAF. If you don't want to do it right like Bucko did I suggest you do not do it at all.

The engine sucks a tremendous amount of air and would suck the tape off as faster then you put it on.

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If I'm not mistaken, the MAF sensor is before the resonator, so it wouldn't be the MAF sensor to worry about. It would be sucking the tape into the intake that would be the concern.
Correct, it would be getting sucked into the throttle body.
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Ya know, I'm lookin' at the Steeda CAI, and the intake hose on that guy might just work to replace the stock intake hose. Any takers on that idea?

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Their intake tube is a joke to me. It's flexible and flexes. It's a bigger tube but like I preach, still a 3" throttle body.

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I feel like in theory this would be a good idea, but I don't know how the tape would hold up to the heat and humidity it would be subjected to.
Not to mention if it gets sucked in your engine. You could kiss that motor goodbye.
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Their intake tube is a joke to me. It's flexible and flexes. It's a bigger tube but like I preach, still a 3" throttle body.

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Not to mention if it gets sucked in your engine. You could kiss that motor goodbye.
It's already off. I only drove a few miles. Tape hadn't moved at all.
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Would you say the muffler delete is more of an in the car or out of the car sound mod? I taped off the holes from the inside just to see if it made a difference, and while driving I would have to say if there was any difference it was barely noticeable. Does it affect mainly under hood sound, or will it also affect the sound coming out of my Magnaflow Streets?
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It's already off. I only drove a few miles. Tape hadn't moved at all.
Good! Dude c'mon!!!! You did realize that if it came off it would directly enter you intake didn't you???
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Good! Dude c'mon!!!! You did realize that if it came off it would directly enter you intake didn't you???
I knew it would head to the throttle body but it was on so tight I really didn't think a short test drive would allow it to come off. And when I went to peel it off it was just as tight as when I put it on. I made sure there were no loose edges. Just a test...
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I knew it would head to the throttle body but it was on so tight I really didn't think a short test drive would allow it to come off. And when I went to peel it off it was just as tight as when I put it on. I made sure there were no loose edges. Just a test...
I'm glad it went O.K 4 you. Yikes!
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Some ppl bro some ppl. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum so far. Wow you are lucky bro. You obviously didn't pay for that car.
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Sucking tape into the engine would not be a good thing !!!

Bucko tells of the way to do this properly.

Myself, I would just save up some $$$ and buy one I like

I have always felt that rigging crap on any car is a good way to end up with a crappy car. In other words, If you can't do it right just don't do it at all.

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Bucko tells of the way to do this properly.

Myself, I would just save up some $$$ and buy one I like

I have always felt that rigging crap on any car is a good way to end up with a crappy car. In other words, If you can't do it right just don't do it at all.

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Some ppl bro some ppl. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum so far. Wow you are lucky bro. You obviously didn't pay for that car.
Yes, I did. Cash.
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Yes, I did. Cash.
Then go buy a CAI, cash. And not risk blowing your motor over a piece of duck tape
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I just wanted to see if blocking those holes made a difference. I must have done something right, it's not like when I opened it back up the tape was flapping around. If you guys think I'm the dumbest person out here, that's a matter opinion.
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I don't think you are dumb at all.

Over the years we have all done dumb things.

Not thinking anything about what would happen if the duck tape came loose is just an oversight and don't mean you are dumb at all. I'm just happy that everything went OK for you.

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Over the years we have all done dumb things.

Not thinking anything about what would happen if the duck tape came loose is just an oversight and don't mean you are dumb at all. I'm just happy that everything went OK for you.

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PS: I still do dumb things ever once in a while.
Thing is, I did think about what would happen ahead of time. I knew it would get sucked through the throttle body if it came off. But I also felt very comfortable after putting it on that there were no edges sticking up, and I overlapped each piece that the air would flow over the edges like water runs over shingles. No offense taken by your comments, Ronnie.

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Thing is, I did think about what would happen ahead of time. I knew it would get sucked through the throttle body if it came off. But I also felt very comfortable after putting it on that there were no edges sticking up, and I overlapped each piece that the air would flow over the edges like water runs over shingles. No offense taken by your comments, Ronnie.
And I could barely pick it off.
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Some ppl bro some ppl. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum so far. Wow you are lucky bro. You obviously didn't pay for that car.
It's not the dumbest. There was a guy who decided he'd clean out his engine by running water through it from a garden hose.

I thought the problem with Ford's cai was the way it was positioned, it sucks in hot air from the engine? With an aftermarket cai like airraid you get colder air and that's where the HP gain is from.
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He was doing an oil change and wanted to get all the dirty oil out apparently.
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It's not the dumbest. There was a guy who decided he'd clean out his engine by running water through it from a garden hose.

I thought the problem with Ford's cai was the way it was positioned, it sucks in hot air from the engine? With an aftermarket cai like airraid you get colder air and that's where the HP gain is from.
Holy cow...

The after market CAI for our mustang mixes hot air from the engine compartment AND draws air from the same place as the stock airbox. I think that the only real gain is with the amount of airflow the CAI allows. A lid on my airaid would be awesome for preventing all of that hot air from the engine bay.
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You have a lid on the Airaid

It is called the hood If you look close you will see the rubber seal around the top of your Airaid CAI actually sets slightly against the hood. all of the air is still coming in from the front of your grill area.


Most of the CAI's are like this. Then there are some that do not. Look before you buy.



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IMO it should have been a sealed box like the OEM air box!
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It is called the hood If you look close you will see the rubber seal around the top of your Airaid CAI actually sets slightly against the hood. all of the air is still coming in from the front of your grill area.


Most of the CAI's are like this. Then there are some that do not. Look before you buy.

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It's still an open system. Not wanting to argue, but it lets in more hot air than the stock airbox.
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It's still an open system. Not wanting to argue, but it lets in more hot air than the stock airbox.
+1, If it was really about "performance" it would have been a sealed box, not with a dinky cheap piece of rubber. If you look carefully at Ronnie's picture you can see the kinked "seal" that won't provide an air tight unit! They should remove the seal and put a hard plastic cover over it like the stock air box to truly have a cold air intake IMO. For 300$ I'd expect better. For me its a 150$ max purchase for what you actually get.1 tube,a couple of clamps and a filter =300$????
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Then it would not look so great++++++

When you pop the hood open

If you think that the small amount of air sucked into that Airaid when at top RPM is anything much to worry about you are wrong.
The air is forced into the cold air inlet at the front of the grill and thru the tube into the airbox and will keep a lot of the under hood air out. Maybe not so much at lower RPM when it don't matter anyway.

If you want a good CAI with a top on it you need to just keep the stock airbox . It is very,very good and works well.
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It sure don't look as good as a CAI when you pop he hood and show off the cool air filter.

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When you pop the hood open

If you think that the small amount of air sucked into that Airaid when at top RPM is anything much to worry about you are wrong.
The air is forced into the cold air inlet at the front of the grill and thru the tube into the airbox and will keep a lot of the under hood air out. Maybe not so much at lower RPM when it don't matter anyway.

If you want a good CAI with a top on it you need to just keep the stock airbox . It is very,very good and works well.
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It sure don't look as good as a CAI when you pop he hood and show off the cool air filter.

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I'll agree with you about the eye candy, it does look good and sound good, but it should be sealed with maybe a removable top to show it off when the hood is opened. There is NO WAY that the any after market CAI with a open top is going to provide better cold air than the mustangs stock sealed box! That being said as long as the tb is the same it also won't provide any more air into the intake unless you increase the tb diameter. I just purchased the tuner/CAI intake combo from AM because the CAI was almost 1/2 price in the combo, but I'm still wondering if the 170 for it was even worth it. I figured I was ordering the tuner anyway so I'll try it out and if I didn't care for it I could sell it and make a couple of $$. I'll just have to see for myself. Again this is just my 2ยข
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Closed systems like airaid and steeda work best. Others use the air inlet and don't have the whole box effect the airaid or steeda have. If you guys know what I'm saying? The competition uses a minimalistic air box, letting in hot air. Airaid doesn't. But the quality isn't up to par with me.


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I really like the quality of my Airaid

It fit perfect and I find no flaws at all. I did not have the problem with the grommets like you did. I did have to install the coupler onto the throttle body first unlike they show installing it on the Air tube first in the AM video. The top seals nice against the hood and everything plugged in perfect.

No quality or any other problems with my Airaid.

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Would you say the tube flows as any other with all the bends Ronnie? That's why I'm just not feeling it anymore. Too many bends
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Yea the JLT is actually the best performance other than steeda. It's a straight shot tube
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Yea the JLT is actually the best performance other than steeda. It's a straight shot tube
Look at C&L on their site. They show exactly why theirs is the best and no, it's not a sales pitch. They actually use real numbers.

I'll look into the jlt. I want something beside airaid and steeda
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The bends are not really that bad for the airflow.

The inside diameter of the Airaid air tube is the same diameter from the filter to the throttle body. The bends are not really that tight and there is absolutely no change in the inside diameter or restrictions to slow down the flow or cause any turbulence.

There are plenty of Cold air packages to choose from and unless you are going to be driving around at redline all of the time sucking in the maximum amount of air everyplace you go any of them will work just fine. ( including the stock air box)

It's just to bad you can get a nice shaker hood system for the 5.0 but we can't get one for our V6 engines.

Get the one you like looking at when you pop the hood because as far as performance goes they all will feed way more air then your engine is going to use.

As far as trying to believe those dyno tests on any CAI !!!! The car is stationary and not moving at all so no actual the way it happens at true speed airflow.

Sticking a fan in front of the car sure ain't like driving down the highway so don't even go there.

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The inside diameter of the Airaid air tube is the same diameter from the filter to the throttle body. The bends are not really that tight and there is absolutely no change in the inside diameter or restrictions to slow down the flow or cause any turbulence.

There are plenty of Cold air packages to choose from and unless you are going to be driving around at redline all of the time sucking in the maximum amount of air everyplace you go any of them will work just fine. ( including the stock air box)

It's just to bad you can get a nice shaker hood system for the 5.0 but we can't get one for our V6 engines.

Get the one you like looking at when you pop the hood because as far as performance goes they all will feed way more air then your engine is going to use.

As far as trying to believe those dyno tests on any CAI !!!! The car is stationary and not moving at all so no actual the way it happens at true speed airflow.

Sticking a fan in front of the car sure ain't like driving down the highway so don't even go there.

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Well said and I also wish there was a shaker kit for us V6er's
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The inside diameter of the Airaid air tube is the same diameter from the filter to the throttle body. The bends are not really that tight and there is absolutely no change in the inside diameter or restrictions to slow down the flow or cause any turbulence.

There are plenty of Cold air packages to choose from and unless you are going to be driving around at redline all of the time sucking in the maximum amount of air everyplace you go any of them will work just fine. ( including the stock air box)

It's just to bad you can get a nice shaker hood system for the 5.0 but we can't get one for our V6 engines.

Get the one you like looking at when you pop the hood because as far as performance goes they all will feed way more air then your engine is going to use.

As far as trying to believe those dyno tests on any CAI !!!! The car is stationary and not moving at all so no actual the way it happens at true speed airflow.

Sticking a fan in front of the car sure ain't like driving down the highway so don't even go there.

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So with all this research I've been doing. A straight one is just as good as airaid. The bends and that pesky flapping grommet bother me. I guess I can super glue it in or something.

C&L is straight and has a 4 inch to 3 inch tube. Causing the air to force itself in. But, like you stated the engine will take what it needs. I like the airaid with the close box look. Don't see any weird stuff like the jlt and its minimal design.

I'm so bipolar over these things :/
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So with all this research I've been doing. A straight one is just as good as airaid. The bends and that pesky flapping grommet bother me. I guess I can super glue it in or something.

C&L is straight and has a 4 inch to 3 inch tube. Causing the air to force itself in. But, like you stated the engine will take what it needs. I like the airaid with the close box look. Don't see any weird stuff like the jlt and its minimal design.

I'm so bipolar over these things :/
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I can't understand why you are having such a problem.

With something as easy to install as a Grommet.

The grommet fits into the air tube. Then just rub a little spit onto the fitting and tilt the fitting a little and twist it into the air tube.

So easy.
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PS: I just may be wrong but from the pictures I have just looked at, Both the C&L And the JLT Cai's do not couple up to the factory cold air Ford inlet tube that allows outside cold air directly into the air box from the grill area. The Airaid does.
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With something as easy to install as a Grommet.

The grommet fits into the air tube. Then just rub a little spit onto the fitting and tilt the fitting a little and twist it into the air tube.

So easy.
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PS: I just may be wrong but from the pictures I have just looked at, Both the C&L And the JLT Cai's do not couple up to the factory cold air Ford inlet tube that allows outside cold air directly into the air box from the grill area. The Airaid does.
Yeah that's what I was saying as a closed intake box. The others just let the bottom fall out and aren't a good box type. Airaid does hook up to the inlet tube nice and tight. I reinstalled it this morning. I super glued the grommet in place too.

As far as when I installed it, one side is shallow, the other side is deep. Almost like the crank valve is too short or the tube wasn't produced correctly. I may just call airaid and see if I can get a new tube. Mine was kinda shady built it appears.
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I had to increase the hole size on my airaid for the crankcase fitting. The hole diameter would not pass the aluminum fitting without some force. Add the grommet and no amount of lube would prevent cutting the grommet on insertion.

If you call airaid they will replace the split grommet if you had the same issue.

Another thing to note is that the fitting and stock hose don't line up without straining the fitting and grommet. Not too bad but a few degrees towards the passenger side would alleviate that strain on my intake.
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