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Old 09-02-2013, 11:52 AM   #106
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I would definitely recommend AM for its tunes while your building your car up with mods. I have been running the 91 hybrid tune and personally like that the best of the bama tunes. From a financial perspective, AM's free tunes for life is amazing and the best deal. AM has wonderful customer service and gives a honest good product as all there products are. With that said, are the tunes from AM the most powerful tunes out there. After getting my MPT tune, it takes the cars performance to a different feeling and level above the bama tunes. I love AM but MPT tunes are crazy aggressive and car pulls harder and even firmer shift points.

Charlie, is your 5.0 an automatic with the 3:15 gears? I only ask because the 2013 5.0 I tested was an auto with 3:15 gears and respectfully, highly disappointed in the cars off line acceleration and mid power. The factory tune has the same horrible throttle response as does the v6 stock tune. A highly noticeable delay in throttle response and weak shift points in the automatic.
I have a 3.73 manual, tuned, the original owner gave me the tuner since he wasnt gna tune his 13 boss he traded the car for. I was good friends with the original owner

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You have a boss.

much different than a stock 3.31 geared stick 5.0 or a automatic 3.15 geared auto 5.0. with its 6850 rpm redline and 412 horses. And the suspension doesn't hook as well.

I have driven a stock boss 302 and a stock 5.0 and the boss is much faster cause of the 7500 rpm redline, the fact it pulls all the way to that redline, and the shorter 3.73 gears.

A 3.15 geared auto convertible would have a hard time pulling a modded decently bolted on (headers,intake,tune,catless, 3.31 gears or higher) 3.7 till 80-100 when the v8 kicks in as after that speed it's about how much gas you can burn to overcome air resistance. A stock 3.31 geared 5.0 really pulls on the modded (t/i/e) 3.7 after 70. The thing is the 5.0 responds just as well as the 3.7 to mods so once you start modding the 5.0 it's game over.
I dont see how u say a 3.7 can pull on a 5.0 before 70mph. My full bolt on 3.7 cant do crap to my 5.0 and my 5.0 spins through 1st, 2nd, and almost all of third. My 3.7 could barley keep up with the 5.0 tuned with 50 shots of nitrous. It took 75 shots for the 3.7 to barley pull on the 5.0

My buddy with a beyond bolt on 3.7 with mmr heads, internals, 410 gears and 150 shots is the only 3.7 that can beat a 5.0 even that my buddies 75 shot 5.0 will domminate the 3.7
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I have a 3.73 manual, tuned, the original owner gave me the tuner since he wasnt gna tune his 13 boss he traded the car for. I was good friends with the original owner
Well, say no more friend. You have a manual with 3:73 gears which is a completely different beast than an automatic with 3:15 gears. With your manual you control when the car shifts gears not the computer like the automatic plus having 3:73 gears is a world of difference compared to the 3:15 factory gears.

Charlie, test drive a stock automatic with 3:15 gears and report back as to how your modded v6 feels compared to it. I think your report will be very different compared to your manual , with 3:73 gears.
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f*** everything and just get a procharger if you wanna beat a 5.0. raise the boost to 10-11 lbs with safety mods of course and you leave them in the dust. now with that said a full bolton 5.0 will keep up with a procharged 3.7. I know this cuz I am procharged at 10 lbs. if you procharge a 5.0 lol well your screwed. game over. haha. I have yet to run against one. I know it will be ugly.
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Well, say no more friend. You have a manual with 3:73 gears which is a completely different beast than an automatic with 3:15 gears. With your manual you control when the car shifts gears not the computer like the automatic plus having 3:73 gears is a world of difference compared to the 3:15 factory gears.

Charlie, test drive a stock automatic with 3:15 gears and report back as to how your modded v6 feels compared to it. I think your report will be very different compared to your manual , with 3:73 gears.
Yea but my 3.7 has 373 gears too so its not a fair comparison. I think two 373 gear cars would be a better comparison especially since the 3.7 has everything u can buy minus heads n stuff from mmr

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f*** everything and just get a procharger if you wanna beat a 5.0. raise the boost to 10-11 lbs with safety mods of course and you leave them in the dust. now with that said a full bolton 5.0 will keep up with a procharged 3.7. I know this cuz I am procharged at 10 lbs. if you procharge a 5.0 lol well your screwed. game over. haha. I have yet to run against one. I know it will be ugly.
Or u can run me I took out the nitrous kit from the 3.7 after I tested it against the 5.0 im only running 75 shots till I get colder plugs. I only use it from a roll tho or no traction. And I say this on a closed course not ilegal racing modds
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Yea but my 3.7 has 373 gears too so its not a fair comparison. I think two 373 gear cars would be a better comparison especially since the 3.7 has everything u can buy minus heads n stuff from mmr

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Or u can run me I took out the nitrous kit from the 3.7 after I tested it against the 5.0 im only running 75 shots till I get colder plugs. I only use it from a roll tho or no traction. And I say this on a closed course not ilegal racing modds
Charlie we still have to race. lol. some day!
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Charlie we still have to race. lol. some day!
Yes one of these days its going down :p
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Yes one of these days its going down :p
bro for real it amazes me how you can afford a badass 3.7 and a 5.0.
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bro for real it amazes me how you can afford a badass 3.7 and a 5.0.
Being stingy and saving ur money and not spending it on bs is great haha
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Being stingy and saving ur money and not spending it on bs is great haha
spending my money on bs^ that's my problem. lol. and girls
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spending my money on bs^ that's my problem. lol. and girls
I love bad *****es that my f*ucken problem lmfao
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I have a 3.73 manual, tuned, the original owner gave me the tuner since he wasnt gna tune his 13 boss he traded the car for. I was good friends with the original owner

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I dont see how u say a 3.7 can pull on a 5.0 before 70mph. My full bolt on 3.7 cant do crap to my 5.0 and my 5.0 spins through 1st, 2nd, and almost all of third. My 3.7 could barley keep up with the 5.0 tuned with 50 shots of nitrous. It took 75 shots for the 3.7 to barley pull on the 5.0

My buddy with a beyond bolt on 3.7 with mmr heads, internals, 410 gears and 150 shots is the only 3.7 that can beat a 5.0 even that my buddies 75 shot 5.0 will domminate the 3.7
Lol where did I ever say a 3.7 can pull a 5.0? please show me. a 3.7 will never PULL on the same car essentially with 100 more torque/ hp. all my conversations had to do with the 3.7 keeping up with the 5.0, never pulling it. makes no sense to think a 3.7 can pull a 5.0 unless the v6 has a procharger

All I said was that a STOCK auto 3.15 geared convertible 5.0 would have a hard time pulling a properly tuned and bolted on 3.31(or higher) geared 3.7 in low speeds 0-60 or 20-70 or 5-60.

after that the 5.0 will begin to pull because the 3.7 will be running into to much air resistance and acceleration after 80 mph is about how much gas you can burn per second to overcome the exponentially increasing air resistance.

I also said that a bolted on, 3.31 geared 3.7 can hang with a STOCK 3.31 gear 5.0 till 70 or so. This I have personal expierence with, because my buddy drives a 2012 5.0 that started out stock and became a monster.

I know because i have went to the track and raced my friends stock and modded 5.0 with 3.31 gears.

obviously with 100 more torque and horsepower the 5.0 is faster. haha Videos on my youtube channel of some of the races if you don't believe me just look around

heres a vid of the 5.0 in question. she sounds INSANE

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Lol where did I ever say a 3.7 can pull a 5.0? please show me. a 3.7 will never PULL on the same car essentially with 100 more torque/ hp. all my conversations had to do with the 3.7 keeping up with the 5.0, never pulling it. makes no sense to think a 3.7 can pull a 5.0 unless the v6 has a procharger

All I said was that a STOCK auto 3.15 geared convertible 5.0 would have a hard time pulling a properly tuned and bolted on 3.31(or higher) geared 3.7 in low speeds 0-60 or 20-70 or 5-60.

after that the 5.0 will begin to pull because the 3.7 will be running into to much air resistance and acceleration after 80 mph is about how much gas you can burn per second to overcome the exponentially increasing air resistance.

I also said that a bolted on, 3.31 geared 3.7 can hang with a STOCK 3.31 gear 5.0 till 70 or so. This I have personal expierence with, because my buddy drives a 2012 5.0 that started out stock and became a monster.

I know because i have went to the track and raced my friends stock and modded 5.0 with 3.31 gears.

obviously with 100 more torque and horsepower the 5.0 is faster. haha Videos on my youtube channel of some of the races if you don't believe me just look around

heres a vid of the 5.0 in question. she sounds INSANE

Lol how long did it take u to type all that. U said it would keep up from a 0-70 and I think thats a bunch of bull. I own both cars. I tested it and I can test it again and the same exact results will happen, the 3.7 be left behind way before we reach 70mph

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Lol how long did it take u to type all that. U said it would keep up from a 0-70 and I think thats a bunch of bull. I own both cars. I tested it and I can test it again and the same exact results will happen, the 3.7 be left behind way before we reach 70mph
When you say monster I was under the assumtion it was full bolt on with cams lol I was disappointed when I saw the mods haha I can take out ur buddies 5.0 and mine is prolly louder with my straight pipes. I have nitrous he wouldnt win. He would definitely be on my *** but if I buy my colder plugs I can go ahead and bump the nitrous to 150 shots and then hes screwed but I wont do that since im on a budget with both cars and insurance.

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Lol how long did it take u to type all that. U said it would keep up from a 0-70 and I think thats a bunch of bull. I own both cars. I tested it and I can test it again and the same exact results will happen, the 3.7 be left behind way before we reach 70mph

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When you say monster I was under the assumtion it was full bolt on with cams lol I was disappointed when I saw the mods haha I can take out ur buddies 5.0 and mine is prolly louder with my straight pipes. I have nitrous he wouldnt win. He would definitely be on my *** but if I buy my colder plugs I can go ahead and bump the nitrous to 150 shots and then hes screwed but I wont do that since im on a budget with both cars and insurance.
But I will admit it sounds sick!
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Lol how long did it take u to type all that. U said it would keep up from a 0-70 and I think thats a bunch of bull. I own both cars. I tested it and I can test it again and the same exact results will happen, the 3.7 be left behind way before we reach 70mph
You don't own a 3.31 geared 5.0 so you don't own the same exact car's I'm talking about. You can believe whatever you want bro, thing is I went to the track and raced that 5.0 at least 8 times with similar outcomes every time.

Him stock he was running 8.6 @ 84 mph to my 8.8 @ 81 mph. With a t/i/e he was running 8.4-8.5@ 86-88 mph depending on his 60" which were always 2.2X but for the 8.5 @ 88 mph he got a 2.4 60" and spun balls. With his mods he is traction limited.

I'm consistently a 8.8 car before the shorty headers and with them I consistently get 8.7. So to 60 we would be pretty damn even with him stock and me modded. The 330" for me modded is 5.852 and for him modded it was 5.765. This was on both our best runs. Traction plays a big role in a 0-60 run. Something a 5.0 doesn't have much of.

Also the 5.0 is utterly insane after the longtubes. Pulls like a freight train through third gear and sounds like a Lambo at WOT haha
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You don't own a 3.31 geared 5.0 so you don't own the same exact car's I'm talking about. You can believe whatever you want bro, thing is I went to the track and raced that 5.0 at least 8 times with similar outcomes every time.

Him stock he was running 8.6 @ 84 mph to my 8.8 @ 81 mph. With a t/i/e he was running 8.4-8.5@ 86-88 mph depending on his 60" which were always 2.2X but for the 8.5 @ 88 mph he got a 2.4 60" and spun balls. With his mods he is traction limited.

I'm consistently a 8.8 car before the shorty headers and with them I consistently get 8.7. So to 60 we would be pretty damn even with him stock and me modded. The 330" for me modded is 5.852 and for him modded it was 5.765. This was on both our best runs. Traction plays a big role in a 0-60 run. Something a 5.0 doesn't have much of.

Also the 5.0 is utterly insane after the longtubes. Pulls like a freight train through third gear and sounds like a Lambo at WOT haha
Bro both mustangs I own both have 373 gears. Its the same rear end? Is that not what u want? To have two cars with the same gear ratio
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Yea but my 3.7 has 373 gears too so its not a fair comparison. I think two 373 gear cars would be a better comparison especially since the 3.7 has everything u can buy minus heads n stuff from mmr
The 3:73 geared 5.0 , manual trans is totally different than an automatic , 3:15 geared one.
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The 3:73 geared 5.0 , manual trans is totally different than an automatic , 3:15 geared one.
Omg u guys are ridiculous I have one auto and one manual. I cant afford 4 cars with each their own gear ratio and different tranny -.-
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Bro both mustangs I own both have 373 gears. Its the same rear end? Is that not what u want? To have two cars with the same gear ratio

it wouldn't really matter if both cars are the same gear ratio. Your 5.0 has to be stock and your 3.7 should have all its mods on it.

Than go and race from 0-60 or from 20-80 and your telling me your stock 5.0 will pull more than 3 cars on your 3.7?

80-120 I have no doubt the 5.0 will put 5 + cars on the 3.7. I know from personal experience.
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it wouldn't really matter if both cars are the same gear ratio. Your 5.0 has to be stock and your 3.7 should have all its mods on it.

Than go and race from 0-60 or from 20-80 and your telling me your stock 5.0 will pull more than 3 cars on your 3.7?

80-120 I have no doubt the 5.0 will put 5 + cars on the 3.7. I know from personal experience.
I can return the car stock and put my stock intake but we tested it the first couple days I got my 5.0, it pulled and pulled on my 3.7 very easily. I had to spray to get it to keep up with it.
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I can return the car stock and put my stock intake but we tested it the first couple days I got my 5.0, it pulled and pulled on my 3.7 very easily. I had to spray to get it to keep up with it.
Did you see my race against the 5.0 on my channel? I had a passenger in my car as well. Did the race look like you beat your 3.7 worse than that?
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Did you see my race against the 5.0 on my channel? I had a passenger in my car as well. Did the race look like you beat your 3.7 worse than that?
The white one right? Yea mine pulled harder on the 3.7
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Omg u guys are ridiculous I have one auto and one manual. I cant afford 4 cars with each their own gear ratio and different tranny -.-
Sure you can bro. Just stop taking out all your lady friends and stay away from the strip clubs. Lmfao. Jk
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Sure you can bro. Just stop taking out all your lady friends and stay away from the strip clubs. Lmfao. Jk
Lmfao my gf is the one who spends more money than me! Im smart with my money and try not to spend it if I dont have to lol and the strip clubs are for recreational purposes lol
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I have a 3.73 manual, tuned, the original owner gave me the tuner since he wasnt gna tune his 13 boss he traded the car for. I was good friends with the original owner

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I dont see how u say a 3.7 can pull on a 5.0 before 70mph. My full bolt on 3.7 cant do crap to my 5.0 and my 5.0 spins through 1st, 2nd, and almost all of third. My 3.7 could barley keep up with the 5.0 tuned with 50 shots of nitrous. It took 75 shots for the 3.7 to barley pull on the 5.0

My buddy with a beyond bolt on 3.7 with mmr heads, internals, 410 gears and 150 shots is the only 3.7 that can beat a 5.0 even that my buddies 75 shot 5.0 will domminate the 3.7
If your spinning through 3rd, that's kinda bad. A big motor like that shouldn't have that sort of load through 3rd. That's just asking to crack a gasket or something. Least that's how I know old school big block Chevy motors. I know the 5.0 is a small block.
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Lmfao my gf is the one who spends more money than me! Im smart with my money and try not to spend it if I dont have to lol and the strip clubs are for recreational purposes lol
Says the Latin lover. Lmao.
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If your spinning through 3rd, that's kinda bad. A big motor like that shouldn't have that sort of load through 3rd. That's just asking to crack a gasket or something. Least that's how I know old school big block Chevy motors. I know the 5.0 is a small block.
Na its just I have 373 gears and stock tires.

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Says the Latin lover. Lmao.
Lol my gf is white hahaha
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Says the Latin lover. Lmao.
Look how cute I am lol I got laid after I did this hahaha
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Haha maybe I just have a freak 3.7 than?
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Look how cute I am lol I got laid after I did this hahaha
I bet you did. Lmao. That lasted all of 1 minute and then off you went to clean the front windshield off the fallen rose pedals and wash the 5.0. Lmao.
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I bet you did. Lmao. That lasted all of 1 minute and then off you went to clean the front windshield off the fallen rose pedals and wash the 5.0. Lmao.
More like 3min!!!!! Jk jk hey im young I still got that stamina from my high school days! And yea after we banged I went outside and with a razor took off the window paint crap lol!!! She wanted me to leave it on I was like NOPE!

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Haha maybe I just have a freak 3.7 than?
Na u got jesus lol maybe I just have a hidden supercharger on the 5.0 that it pulls super hard hahaha
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More like 3min!!!!! Jk jk hey im young I still got that stamina from my high school days! And yea after we banged I went outside and with a razor took off the window paint crap lol!!! She wanted me to leave it on I was like NOPE!

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Na u got jesus lol maybe I just have a hidden supercharger on the 5.0 that it pulls super hard hahaha
Now Charlie, you can't fool this old smoothy. I know a wash and wax had to come after the removal of the glass paint. Lol. Come on. Admit it! lol
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Na u got jesus lol maybe I just have a hidden supercharger on the 5.0 that it pulls super hard hahaha
Naaaa it's that VTEC yo!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:41 PM   #137
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Now Charlie, you can't cool this old smoothy. I know a wash and wax had to come after the removal of the glass paint. Lol. Come on. Admit it! lol
Lol I may have washed it hahaha
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Lol I may have washed it hahaha
Ba ha ha ha. Now that's my man. ! Lmao
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While we're talking about tunes since the dealership can tell if u had a tune and put it back to stock what if you put it back to stock then took the negative cable off the battery would that flash it and erase all traces of a tune
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While we're talking about tunes since the dealership can tell if u had a tune and put it back to stock what if you put it back to stock then took the negative cable off the battery would that flash it and erase all traces of a tune
Everything I've read about the '11+ mustangs is that the timestamp that tuning and detuning leaves is nonvolatile memory. Not even disconnecting the battery clears it out. It may be possible to wipe the ecu clean and reload a stock tune, but they'd still see it as being loaded on such-and-such date. Someone else might have seen something I haven't and chime in though
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