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Old 09-01-2013, 07:18 PM   #1
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Shorty Headers or BBK Throttle Body?

Deciding on what to do next. Any suggestions? I'm waiting on a tune for when I get back from deployment in 2014.
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I would say the headers, gives a lot more down in the low to mid range.
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I would do the shorty headers, but thats just me
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Deciding on what to do next. Any suggestions? I'm waiting on a tune for when I get back from deployment in 2014.
A throttle body is a waste of $$$ , no real gains. definitely get the shorty headers they provide significant torque gains.
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Shorty Headers. I have been told unless you have f/I, you don't need a larger throttle body.
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I'd say do the shorty headers.
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Everyone said shorties. But lets think back, who was calling shorties blasphemy? That is until someone tried it. Now we won't shut up over them.

So, how about the throttle bodies now? What are we gonna be when I get one and say how awesome it is?
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I had longtubes and when I got beat by a car that had 3.73 with shorties and I had 4.10 I was blown away. he beat me the whole till 100ish n then I started catching up. I immediately bought shorties and got my 0-60 time down to 3.9-4.0 sec. I am a huge advocate for shorties.
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You can change manifolds to shorties and nothing else, right?
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You can change manifolds to shorties and nothing else, right?
Yea you can. I'm running shorties to the stock mid pipe. Still saw great gains
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Everyone said shorties. But lets think back, who was calling shorties blasphemy? That is until someone tried it. Now we won't shut up over them.

So, how about the throttle bodies now? What are we gonna be when I get one and say how awesome it is?
Just going by impressions, it merely seems more notice improvement from the shorties. It's not scientific though.

As to the TB, it may be worth a small amount stock but I feel, having ported these upper and lower intakes, that is when a TB will help more. I'm still not sure of how much it helps as I'm not going to pay to see the difference on dynoing and maybe be out even more money, lol. It makes more since to do it along with porting if you're going to do it.
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Just going by impressions, it merely seems more notice improvement from the shorties. It's not scientific though.

As to the TB, it may be worth a small amount stock but I feel, having ported these upper and lower intakes, that is when a TB will help more. I'm still not sure of how much it helps as I'm not going to pay to see the difference on dynoing and maybe be out even more money, lol. It makes more since to do it along with porting if you're going to do it.
Maybe not on a dyno but you'll feel it down low.

Ie, I returned my intake back to stock, felt the loss of throttle and mid torque in 2-4th. No tune. I. Think if you had everything done bolt on wise, a throttle body would be the last thing besides some injectors.
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Everyone said shorties. But lets think back, who was calling shorties blasphemy? That is until someone tried it. Now we won't shut up over them.

So, how about the throttle bodies now? What are we gonna be when I get one and say how awesome it is?
Still think they're useless unless going turbo hahaha I have the TB its okay. Only reason I got it was cuz it was a hell of a deal besides that its not that great after I got a revised tune and this is with my revised MPT Race tune. I didnt really notice any gains just a better throttle response and alot louder whistle from my intake and TB spacer. It sounds like a ****en jet whistling now
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Still think they're useless unless going turbo hahaha I have the TB its okay. Only reason I got it was cuz it was a hell of a deal besides that its not that great after I got a revised tune and this is with my revised MPT Race tune. I didnt really notice any gains just a better throttle response and alot louder whistle from my intake and TB spacer. It sounds like a ****en jet whistling now
Fake turbo? See I saw your setup before with the cai, spacer, and bigger TB. With all this, they support the cai and therefore works well. You have headers too which means all your stuff plays well together with a good air/fuel mix. This is what we all talk about but just now thinking of your setup, you're doing it right
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Fake turbo? See I saw your setup before with the cai, spacer, and bigger TB. With all this, they support the cai and therefore works well. You have headers too which means all your stuff plays well together with a good air/fuel mix. This is what we all talk about but just now thinking of your setup, you're doing it right
Hellion is currently the only turbo kit for the 3.7 supposedly CFM is gna make one but they keep pushing back the release date further and further. And yea I have a full bolt on and I can tell u right now the tb isnt worth it very much nor do I think shorties are either. Thats just my opinion I know there is people who praise the hell out of them but I sure dont
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I meant it sounds like a fake turbo lol
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I meant it sounds like a fake turbo lol
Lol yes a fake turbo hahahahaa
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Hellion is currently the only turbo kit for the 3.7 supposedly CFM is gna make one but they keep pushing back the release date further and further. And yea I have a full bolt on and I can tell u right now the tb isnt worth it very much nor do I think shorties are either. Thats just my opinion I know there is people who praise the hell out of them but I sure dont
Best before shorties was 8.83 @ 81.7 mph. In 1400 ft da

Best after shorties in 3500 ft da was 8.76@ 83 mph.

This was in the 1/8th mile
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Best before shorties was 8.83 @ 81.7 mph. In 1400 ft da

Best after shorties in 3500 ft da was 8.76@ 83 mph.

This was in the 1/8th mile
Jesus was on ur side thats all haha I will never agree that shorties are worth it im sorry but not gna happen haha
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He's turning into one of those 5.0 guys -_- ohhhh nooooo
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He's turning into one of those 5.0 guys -_- ohhhh nooooo
Bro u know ive NEVER liked shorties. Ive always gone with LT and always will unless for turbo applications
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OP, neither one. Go long tubes! the mid to high range power is amazing!
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OP, neither one. Go long tubes! the mid to high range power is amazing!
THANK YOU KONA!!!!!!
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Jesus was on ur side thats all haha I will never agree that shorties are worth it im sorry but not gna happen haha
Do some actual research and you'll see you are wrong. Individual dyno tests show they provide significant torque gains.

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OP, neither one. Go long tubes! the mid to high range power is amazing!
But they sound like crap imo on the 3.7 put them on a 5.0 and they sound orgasmic
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THANK YOU KONA!!!!!!
That's right bro. The ladies love the long tube as does our V6's. Lmao. The long tubes are music to my ears.
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That's right bro. The ladies love the long tube as does our V6's. Lmao. The long tubes are music to my ears.
Ive heard that out of every one who ordered pypes. Sounds like absolute fart cannons.
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Ive heard that out of every one who ordered pypes. Sounds like absolute fart cannons.
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Ive heard that out of every one who ordered pypes. Sounds like absolute fart cannons.
Now , does the fart cannon sound occur at cold start up or WOT. LOL.

I think it matters where you want the power. Down low or mid to high range. With the MPT tune I'm running I love the down low torque it gives my sixer. For the long tubes your getting much better mid and higher rpm HP and torque which I also want. I want majority of my power HP and torque when crusing 2,000 rpm and above. I want majority of my peak power coming when I'm crusing 45 mph and punch it. I want peak power when crusing 65 and punch it. Yeah , I want down low power but I also have that now with all my other bolt on mods. Having 3:73 gears, MPT tune and aluminium driveshaft, that helps huge with my off line down low power and pulls hard from a dead stop.
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Go with Pypes shortys, I think you'll like 'em, I know I do.


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Now , does the fart cannon sound occur at cold start up or WOT. LOL.

I think it matters where you want the power. Down low or mid to high range. With the MPT tune I'm running I love the down low torque it gives my sixer. For the long tubes your getting much better mid and higher rpm HP and torque which I also want. I want majority of my power HP and torque when crusing 2,000 rpm and above. I want majority of my peak power coming when I'm crusing 45 mph and punch it. I want peak power when crusing 65 and punch it. Yeah , I want down low power but I also have that now with all my other bolt on mods. Having 3:73 gears, MPT tune and aluminium driveshaft, that helps huge with my off line down low power and pulls hard from a dead stop.
Yes!!!! U sir said it PERFECT!!!!
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Shorties first then tb. For the record I got a 73 mm tb and noticed a better throttle response in the low range. I wanted to do ported but it seemed like too many people were having issues after porting.
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Shorties first then tb. For the record I got a 73 mm tb and noticed a better throttle response in the low range. I wanted to do ported but it seemed like too many people were having issues after porting.
My stock tb was ported n polished
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Shorties first then tb. For the record I got a 73 mm tb and noticed a better throttle response in the low range. I wanted to do ported but it seemed like too many people were having issues after porting.
Seriously, I would consider the larger throttle body if it wasn't 400 freaking dollars and second if they made a larger intake manifold for the 3.7 like they have for the 5.0's.
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My stock tb was ported n polished
How much was that?
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My stock tb was ported n polished
I polished my throttle body today. As in a toothbrush and throttle body cleaner polished response went up some
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