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Old 09-14-2013, 09:27 AM   #71
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I'm not quite sure I understand how the tips could affect the rasp and crackle-pop sound. Can you tell me how that works? Man, I just gotta know how that works.
The tips dont have a drip hole in them and the dual wall edge acts like a cup. Condensation builds up and forms and gets sucked back into the muffler. The condesation gets to the point where the mufflers pop and crackle burning off the water. Think of it like pouring a shot glass of water into an already hot frying pan. Drilling a hole through the tips would also work to let the condesation drip out. I chose different tips because I liked a set I found cheap. I had a set of stingers on my last GT and I swapped the tips because one got damaged. I put on a dual wall resonator tip and it changed the tone making ita tiny bit less loud and more smooth when on the highway. Those tips did have a long resonator built in so I expected change. I did not expect such a big difference even at idle and just light revs with changing the tips on the Force II system but it is a big difference.
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I don't understand why you guys are having all these spinning issues. I have 3:73 gears along with long tube headers and have Zero traction issues with the factory 17 Michelin street tires.

The key to no rasp and deeper tone is to get rid of your stock manifolds and the stock cats. Everybody has there own opinion on what tone sounds good. I have long tubes and off road x pipe and love the tone. Some say , long tubes and H pipe. Some say shorty headers and H pipe. To each there own. My understanding from comments on the forums a H pipe provides a deeper tone.
I agree with the h pipe being deeper. We did MAC shortys, flowmaster x and flow40's on buddy's car and it sounds really hyper! The one I bought off him with the shortys h and MAC cans sounds way deeper. Race car like.
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I just put a o/r h pipe on from lethal. It sounds crazy

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Do you have any loud unwanted sounds past 3k?
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I just put a o/r h pipe on from lethal. It sounds crazy

It sounds bad *** man!! Any rasp from deleting the cats?
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Do you have any loud unwanted sounds past 3k?
I mean in the car it sounds different than before for sure. Much less refined but from outside is doesn't "rasp" necessarily it just screams like crazy. But I do have an exhaust leak on the h pipe I need to take care of it it's at the flanges for connecting the the h pipe to the shorty headers. That may also give it a little more rasp than it should have
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I mean in the car it sounds different than before for sure. Much less refined but from outside is doesn't "rasp" necessarily it just screams like crazy. But I do have an exhaust leak on the h pipe I need to take care of it it's at the flanges for connecting the the h pipe to the shorty headers. That may also give it a little more rasp than it should have
The one I've heard is great under 3k. Then it has this unwanted eww sound from 3-4k then raise hell load past that. I like them but I'm torn between cats or no cats on a roush system.
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The key to no rasp is having catalytic converters
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The key to no rasp is having catalytic converters
The key to unlocking the cars full n/a power HP and torque is removing the cats. Lol. Always remember, when modding you tend to give up something for the gain of something else. It all depends on whats more important to ya. I wanted more HP and torque and not concerned about the extra rasp. I personally love my exhaust setup and how it sounds on cold start up and during wide open throttle.
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The key to unlocking the cars full n/a power HP and torque is removing the cats. Lol. Always remember, when modding you tend to give up something for the gain of something else. It all depends on whats more important to ya. I wanted more HP and torque and not concerned about the extra rasp. I personally love my exhaust setup and how it sounds on cold start up and during wide open throttle.
I said that too but it gets old. Thats why I'm not really interested in putting aftermarket exhaust on the boss.
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The one I've heard is great under 3k. Then it has this unwanted eww sound from 3-4k then raise hell load past that. I like them but I'm torn between cats or no cats on a roush system.
I'm going cats. With Lt , offroad and Roush I think it would be just too ridiculous! The rest of the exhaust would have to be one long resonator. Lol
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I'm going cats. With Lt , offroad and Roush I think it would be just too ridiculous! The rest of the exhaust would have to be one long resonator. Lol
Lmao on the resonator
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I said that too but it gets old. Thats why I'm not really interested in putting aftermarket exhaust on the boss.
Lol. Your boss is bad a$$. You don't need any aftermarket exhaust. Lol
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Lol. Your boss is bad a$$. You don't need any aftermarket exhaust. Lol
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Lol. Your boss is bad a$$. You don't need any aftermarket exhaust. Lol
+100000, Its awesome straight from the dealer!!
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Finally got a video up guys! Before and after the bbk shorty headers on my roush ab exhaust. I have to admit, I love every single bit of it, just sounds amazing now. Deeper tone, less rasp, higher rpms sound a lot better too.
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Sounds good. Seems like the shorties removed some of the crackle and pop.
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Finally got a video up guys! Before and after the bbk shorty headers on my roush ab exhaust. I have to admit, I love every single bit of it, just sounds amazing now. Deeper tone, less rasp, higher rpms sound a lot better too.
Ok I'm all over this.

Drone?
Depth?
Tone?
Resonators or no?
Raspy?

You're the only video with roush ab and shorties. I noticed it's deeper though.
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Ok I'm all over this. Drone? Depth? Tone? Resonators or no? Raspy? You're the only video with roush ab and shorties. I noticed it's deeper though.
Haha, of course you would be!

Drone can't really say, going to let it settle in for a couple more mile, but it's not as bad with just he roush alone.

Depth and tone it's smooth, as you heard deeper. Pop and crackle is gone and give it a nice sound throughout the rpms, especially at idle

No resonators as of right now

Rasp is basically gone, except at higher rpms. It's still there but hardly noticeable.
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Sounds better than my old setup to me. BTW what's that hanging?
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Sounds better than my old setup to me. BTW what's that hanging?
Yea, I'm loving it right now. Later on either catted or off road x pipe, but going to wait for those. And it's this thing called an ugly doll my niece got for me to hang up on the car haha
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Yea, I'm loving it right now. Later on either catted or off road x pipe, but going to wait for those. And it's this thing called an ugly doll my niece got for me to hang up on the car haha
Lmao ugly doll
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Sounds good bro! I really like how the roush sound on a stock car or one with shorty header like yours. My favorite part of the roush for sure is the idle; it sounds very very nice. Once you take off the cats though all hell breaks loose.

My Borla s type axlebacks were probably a 6/10 in loudness by themselves. Way quieter than the roush. They became a 7/10 with the headers and resonator delete I did. Now that I have added a lethal h pipe they are a 12/10 in loudness lol. It's EXTREMELY loud and will make your ears ring if your behind the car and have someone floor it away. Or through tunnels it is so loud that it hurts. Car alarms get set off at half throttle.

Just a word of warning. The roush by themselves are like a 9/10 in loudness. Adding the catless h pipe might make it unbearable. I don't know what your tolerance for loud cars is... But mine is pretty good and my setup with the Borlas are almost reaching levels of obnoxiously loud for me.
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Lmao ugly doll
Yea think she was trying to tell me something
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Yea think she was trying to tell me something
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Sounds good bro! I really like how the roush sound on a stock car or one with shorty header like yours. My favorite part of the roush for sure is the idle; it sounds very very nice. Once you take off the cats though all hell breaks loose. My Borla s type axlebacks were probably a 6/10 in loudness by themselves. Way quieter than the roush. They became a 7/10 with the headers and resonator delete I did. Now that I have added a lethal h pipe they are a 12/10 in loudness lol. It's EXTREMELY loud and will make your ears ring if your behind the car and have someone floor it away. Or through tunnels it is so loud that it hurts. Car alarms get set off at half throttle. Just a word of warning. The roush by themselves are like a 9/10 in loudness. Adding the catless h pipe might make it unbearable. I don't know what your tolerance for loud cars is... But mine is pretty good and my setup with the Borlas are almost reaching levels of obnoxiously loud for me.
Yea, that's why I didn't want to go with the long tube and off road x with roush, think that would be a 16/10 for loudness haha. If anything there is always the catted versions!! Haha but I'm more then satisfied with this setup right now.
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Haha, of course you would be! Drone can't really say, going to let it settle in for a couple more mile, but it's not as bad with just he roush alone. Depth and tone it's smooth, as you heard deeper. Pop and crackle is gone and give it a nice sound throughout the rpms, especially at idle No resonators as of right now Rasp is basically gone, except at higher rpms. It's still there but hardly noticeable.
So would me having 22" resonators be bad or good for the system? Would it be...... Too quiet???

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Yea, that's why I didn't want to go with the long tube and off road x with roush, think that would be a 16/10 for loudness haha. If anything there is always the catted versions!! Haha but I'm more then satisfied with this setup right now.
im doing either a carted x (bbk) or a mpt catted H for that hollow depth
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Finally got a video up guys! Before and after the bbk shorty headers on my roush ab exhaust. I have to admit, I love every single bit of it, just sounds amazing now. Deeper tone, less rasp, higher rpms sound a lot better too.
Dude that just sold me on shorties! I have Roush AB, also with an airaid and bama tune and very soon bbk shorties! Sounds awesome bro!!!! Increased torque?
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Dude that just sold me on shorties! I have Roush AB, also with an airaid and bama tune and very soon bbk shorties! Sounds awesome bro!!!! Increased torque?
Haha sweet! Glad I could help, I hated that no one had a video of roush ab with bbk shorties!!

And yea it felt a really good gain, can't give you an exact amount, but you'll definitely be able to feel it especially with a tuner.
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Hmmm I wonder how shorties sound on a stock exhaust
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I had the roush with high flow carted x pipes and it was unbearable.. It seems perfect with just the shorty headers .. Now I have shorty headers, high flow cats and norma touring

http://youtu.be/20KA5Qcm2XI
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Hmmm I wonder how shorties sound on a stock exhaust
I bet not bad, if you have a manual.
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Sounds good guys. Here is my exhaust build in 3 stages.
BBK shorty ceramic headers, stock exhaust
BBK shorty ceramic headers, GT500 mufflers
BBK shorty ceramic headers, FRPP xpipe, GT500 mufflers
Heres the video, Let me know what you think:
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And here are some in car exhaust clips under load. A 4th gear pull and make sure to watch the under-pass sound! This is the exact sound I was looking for
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