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Old 11-25-2013, 09:12 PM   #211
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It's still a power adder, which I assume is what IP meant. 400whp without a power adder.
No his subject line said 400whp N/A. Yeah nitrous is a power adder. So is CAI & tune, long tubes, xpipe, catback etc. he wanted to know if the 3.7 can achieve 400rwhp in N/A form it can with nitrous. Refer back to my previous post how nitrous still keeps an engine N/A
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But you already have your motor so it's 4-5k forged and for under 10k you will be making a lot more then 500hp I'm just saying you can do what you want just trying to help
Forging the coyote will not gain you 80hp. forging only makes the internal stronger with minimal power gains. You need to bore and/or stoke the motor and head work. That is a whole different monster. But I heard there is not much room to bore or stroke out the coyote to find big power.
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Forging the coyote will not gain you 80hp. forging only makes the internal stronger with minimal power gains. You need to bore and/or stoke the motor. That is a whole different monster. But I heard there is not much room to bore or stroke out the coyote to find big power.
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That's why I want the Aluminator XS. Would that work in an auto? FordRacing.cok only says manual...
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+1 That's why I want the Aluminator XS. Would that work in an auto? FordRacing.cok only says manual...
how about this you give me your 5.0 and I'll give you my 4.6. I hear they make more power anyways.

At least that's what I read in a thread lol
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how about this you give me your 5.0 and I'll give you my 4.6. I hear they make more power anyways. At least that's what I read in a thread lol
I can guess who said that, and nah, I'll keep the 5.0 for a while.
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Forging the coyote will not gain you 80hp. forging only makes the internal stronger with minimal power gains. You need to bore and/or stoke the motor and head work. That is a whole different monster. But I heard there is not much room to bore or stroke out the coyote to find big power.
I did not say it would gain him any hp I said 4-5k to forge and for under 10k you would have a lot more then 500 hp meaning he has 5-6k to add bolt ons (turbo nitrous etc)
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I did not say it would gain him any hp I said 4-5k to forge and for under 10k you would have a lot more then 500 hp meaning he has 5-6k to add bolt ons (turbo nitrous ext)
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I did not say it would gain him any hp I said 4-5k to forge and for under 10k you would have a lot more then 500 hp meaning he has 5-6k to add bolt ons (turbo nitrous etc)
then say what you mean. don't leave details out. the way it read was forging and 500hp. It said nothing about power adders.

Where in this do you mention power adders?

But you already have your motor so it's 4-5k forged and for under 10k you will be making a lot more then 500hp I'm just saying you can do what you want just trying to help

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I took the sbove as the forged motor cost 4-5K is under the 10k. You have 500hp.
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But what does that motor cost?? Would it not be cheaper to forge your motor and nitrous ect??
Read back a little farther lol
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Read back a little farther lol
I did not think I had to add it more then once but my bad
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forged internals are 4-5K, coyotes sell for anywhere from 6-7K. That's anywhere from 10-14 K for the coyote with forged internals, at roughly 444 HP. The Aluminator is 500HP, and forged above Boss 302 specs for about 12-13K
You had to add that didn't you? Lol
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I did not think I had to add it more then once but my bad
You were in. Discussion with someone else i came in late and went off the forge post.. It's all good
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400 rwhp na, I think it can be done, but it would totally change the driveability of the car, the mpg and reliability. Why not just put a procharger on and done with it.
The procharger would likely be cheaper, more powerful and reliable, plus get close to stock mpg if you can keep your foot out of it.
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400 rwhp na, I think it can be done, but it would totally change the driveability of the car, the mpg and reliability. Why not just put a procharger on and done with it. The procharger would likely be cheaper, more powerful and reliable, plus get close to stock mpg if you can keep your foot out of it.
all your power would be in the top end.. Drop some gears in and drive ability is back hahah x2
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all your power would be in the top end.. Drop some gears in and drive ability is back hahah x2
Not really, procharger shave a really broad powerband. Especially the new I-1, I REALLY want that procharger.
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Not really, procharger shave a really broad powerband. Especially the new I-1, I REALLY want that procharger.
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400 rwhp na, I think it can be done, but it would totally change the driveability of the car, the mpg and reliability. Why not just put a procharger on and done with it.
The procharger would likely be cheaper, more powerful and reliable, plus get close to stock mpg if you can keep your foot out of it.
That's why you go nitrous. You use it only when you need it. So you will keep your 30 mpg. If you do nitrous the best and safest is a wet system. Do full bolt on from CAI to exhaust tip. Throw a 150 shot and you are some where between 475-500rwhp. For about $4000 plus another $1500-$2000 install and dyno tune. So for the price of a procharger you can have close to 500 N/A rwhp installed. Drivability will never be sacrificed.

Before anyone starts figuring whp numbers. A full bolt on V6 can achieve about 325whp give ir take. (i've seen one throw down 320) the 150 shot of nitrous is at the wheels.
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The answer is NO ! This engine will NOT make almost 2HP per cubic inch N/A.
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You had to add that didn't you? Lol
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forged internals are 4-5K, coyotes sell for anywhere from 6-7K. That's anywhere from 10-14 K for the coyote with forged internals, at roughly 444 HP. The Aluminator is 500HP, and forged above Boss 302 specs for about 12-13K
It does not cost 4 to 5 to forge a motor. A used coyote does not sell for 6 to 7. A brand new one goes for 7. You can forge a motor and pay for labor for around 2k. I know because I've been quoted
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It does not cost 4 to 5 to forge a motor. A used coyote does not sell for 6 to 7. A brand new one goes for 7. You can forge a motor and pay for labor for around 2k. I know because I've been quoted
My mistake on quoting 6-7 for the coyote, I was thinking new. I did see somewhere( can't remember where), that forging was around 4-5, either way, I won't be doing this for a while... Anyone seen aluminators selling for under 13K? I haven't.
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It does not cost 4 to 5 to forge a motor. A used coyote does not sell for 6 to 7. A brand new one goes for 7. You can forge a motor and pay for labor for around 2k. I know because I've been quoted
My buddy was quoted from 3k to 5k for a. Getting his 2012 5.0 forged
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My mistake on quoting 6-7 for the coyote, I was thinking new. I did see somewhere( can't remember where), that forging was around 4-5, either way, I won't be doing this for a while... Anyone seen aluminators selling for under 13K? I haven't.
I was quoted 2 to 2.5 for mine and you don't have to respond like a brat by stating a rhetorical question. If I didn't agree with the aluminator being 13 I would have said something

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My buddy was quoted from 3k to 5k for a. Getting his 2012 5.0 forged
Wherever he went can't be that reputable if they had a 2k range on their quote....
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I was quoted 2 to 2.5 for mine and you don't have to respond like a brat by stating a rhetorical question. If I didn't agree with the aluminator being 13 I would have said something Wherever he went can't be that reputable if they had a 2k range on their quote....
That last part wasn't directed at you. I was simply asking if anyone has seen then priced lower, calling me a brat? Real mature...
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I was quoted 2 to 2.5 for mine and you don't have to respond like a brat by stating a rhetorical question. If I didn't agree with the aluminator being 13 I would have said something

Wherever he went can't be that reputable if they had a 2k range on their quote....
Sorry did not post that right 1 shop said a little over 3k and and a few others are at the 5k and a little under I thought that was kinda pricey but I never look into it.
And just? if your motor is a 4.6 would the price be different to forge a 5.0?
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Sorry did not post that right 1 shop said a little over 3k and and a few others are at the 5k and a little under I thought that was kinda pricey but I never look into it.
And just? if your motor is a 4.6 would the price be different to forge a 5.0?
Labor will be the same if not less then what mine would be... Parts may be a little more
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Labor will be the same if not less then what mine would be... Parts may be a little more
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Ok
Mine probably will be after new years

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Going to crank that boost up to about 22 with blower cams
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Mine probably will be after new years

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Going to crank that boost up to about 22 with blower cams
You better before you motor goes bye bye with that whipple
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You better before you motor goes bye bye with that whipple
Hahaha have faith young grasshopper. I rarely drive it anyways
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The aluminator is 8k on american muscle
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The aluminator is 8k on american muscle
What HP does the regular Aluminator make? The XS makes 500, but I can't find the regular Aluminator's HP, I'm guessing it still makes the stock 420. The XS is 14,449 on AM, I think Ford Racing has it for 13850,but I haven't seen lower
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What HP does the regular Aluminator make? The XS makes 500, but I can't find the regular Aluminator's HP, I'm guessing it still makes the stock 420. The XS is 14,449 on AM, I think Ford Racing has it for 13850,but I haven't seen lower
You could easily have more than 500hp for the 14.5k that engine will cost. Just keep your stock motor and build it up.
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You could easily have more than 500hp for the 14.5k that engine will cost. Just keep your stock motor and build it up.
Yeah, I'll just have it forged and build it.
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