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Old 08-12-2014, 01:58 PM   #1016
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Well that's what we are trying to get for you guys it just won't go lol. Plus I'm sure most people don't want to drive around on 18psi on e85 everyday. They want to keep it as their daily and keep it reliable we are just as curious as you all especially that people have popped way before the power we are at.

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No we are for sure pushing it been on 18psi for about 4 days now and been our racing 3 of them still together. We have two weeks to pop it we just want to have everything done for street car takeover. If not I guess we will do it one morning before we go out

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Amidst all the speculation about limits of a stock engine (barring this thread and connors dyno sheet), I'm actually curious to know how far you can 'safely' push a DD? Meaning you would like your car to trouble free for at least 100K miles.

They say 450rwhp, but I believe this number came from a supercharged setup since there weren't any real turbo kits for our v6? the dyno number you see doesn't take into consideration the parasitic loss of a belt driver supercharger. So the engine itself in fact could be making ~480+ rwhp, I guess?

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Old 08-12-2014, 02:32 PM   #1018
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Well I have 40k on my car and I've had either a procharger on there or the turbo since 5700 miles so that's a decent amount. Plus the last 4000 is literally beating the hell out of it. I would say anywhere from 400-475 would be a safe number especially if you decided to us e85.

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Well I have 40k on my car and I've had either a procharger on there or the turbo since 5700 miles so that's a decent amount. Plus the last 4000 is literally beating the hell out of it. I would say anywhere from 400-475 would be a safe number especially if you decided to us e85.

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Random question: did you guys get a chance to 'dyno tune' your car yet, or if it's still street driving based tuning as you said earlier? I looked at the graphs you posted once again, just curious how your power band will look like with a good dyno tune. Since thats what a good number of peeps using this kit would do imo - VMP/Lund/Brenspeed/AED/MPT I guess?

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Old 08-13-2014, 01:06 PM   #1020
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I posted the graphs on here and that was on a dyno. We figured out how to smooth the graph but haven't gone back to the dyno. I wouldn't suggest getting email tunes to tune the car if that's what your asking?

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I posted the graphs on here and that was on a dyno. We figured out how to smooth the graph but haven't gone back to the dyno. I wouldn't suggest getting email tunes to tune the car if that's what your asking?

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By dyno tune I was referring to getting your car 'tuned' on a dyno to smooth out your graphs, more so the HP drop after 6k that Voltwings was pointing out to.

Oh and no definitely not email/canned tunes, I was talking about remote tuning with these guys.. either doing a remote dyno session, or on the street as per their instructions.

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Old 08-13-2014, 02:09 PM   #1022
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We smoothed out the actually graph but what he was pointing out was maybe 30 horsepower not 100 like he said but yes we fixed.

Yea I've never dealt with remote tuning but that's up to you guys I'm sure it'd be fine. Hassan is getting his done next Monday so I'm sure you will see off his too

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By dyno tune I was referring to getting your car 'tuned' on a dyno to smooth out your graphs, more so the HP drop after 6k that Voltwings was pointing out to.

Oh and no definitely not email/canned tunes, I was talking about remote tuning with these guys.. either doing a remote dyno session, or on the street as per their instructions.

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If your asking how he tuned the car I think he mentioned earlier that he tuned the car on the street
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:46 PM   #1024
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Then we checked it on the dyno and just needed a little tweaking

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We smoothed out the actually graph but what he was pointing out was maybe 30 horsepower not 100 like he said but yes we fixed.

Yea I've never dealt with remote tuning but that's up to you guys I'm sure it'd be fine. Hassan is getting his done next Monday so I'm sure you will see off his too

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If your asking how he tuned the car I think he mentioned earlier that he tuned the car on the street
Yup, I knew it was tuned on the street and I mentioned it in my previous post as well.

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Yup, install this weekend, then towing it to get tuned!

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What tires will you be running with the kit? Any suspension mods?
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Then we checked it on the dyno and just needed a little tweaking

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Do you have a copy of this tweaked/smoother graph? If so, can you please post it?

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Old 08-13-2014, 04:23 PM   #1029
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No we just have the 2nd one I posted. Their dyno malfunctioned after we used it and we lost our last 3 pulls

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No we just have the 2nd one I posted. Their dyno malfunctioned after we used it and we lost our last 3 pulls

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What tires will you be running with the kit? Any suspension mods?
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And only ford racing lcas (ehh, may as well be stock)

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Old 08-14-2014, 03:20 PM   #1032
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This is on 11.2 pounds

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Old 08-14-2014, 03:34 PM   #1033
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Then here's our 18 psi pull

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Old 08-14-2014, 03:40 PM   #1034
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Very nice......can you post the whole graph on the 18 lbs so we can see the rpm's.
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Then here's our 18 psi pull
Needs more boooooost.
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It would be nice if the torque was a little higher in the 2k-4k rpm range. But nice numbers.
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Looks good. Can't wait for Alre to get the kit in
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It's making what the stock motor makes at 2500 lol. We didn't tune for the 18 pounds at all so it's not smooth we were just trying to make a number on stock motor. Only on 14 degrees of timing no cam tables messed with and the boost controller sensitivity was high. Would have fixed it but the dyno kept not stopping good looking for a different dyno to go to around here

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Wow!!!! That thing is making some serious steam! Nice work!

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It's making what the stock motor makes at 2500 lol. We didn't tune for the 18 pounds at all so it's not smooth we were just trying to make a number on stock motor. Only on 14 degrees of timing no cam tables messed with and the boost controller sensitivity was high. Would have fixed it but the dyno kept not stopping good looking for a different dyno to go to around here

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I'm assuming that's 14* at redline? And the stock cam tables are set up to run N/a ... I would expect simply adjusting the overlap would clean that top end up a lot. I'd say there's a lot left in it without more boost, 600 / 600 is respectable, just gotta get that top end up.
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Yea maxed out at 14.2. I know all this we just did a pull on 18 pounds without touching the tune to see.

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Time to re run Bryan on the 18 pounds bud.

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Old 08-14-2014, 05:54 PM   #1043
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He said he doesn't want to because if he loses he is selling the car lol

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:03 PM   #1044
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We're you on the 14 lbs last time when you raced?

He is always talking about selling the car lmao.

Me and him both. But all honesty I don't think we will get rid of them.

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:11 PM   #1045
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Yea I was on 14. Yea well he got rid of the lightning last time he said that haha. I doubt he would but still I'll let him have it for now!

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The white lightning, the g8, the gto , then the red lightning, but the stang will be awhile.

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:16 PM   #1047
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With the red one he said if he got beat by the Harley Davidson f150 it was gonna be sold. 2 weeks later it was gone lol. Well we are working on his mustang now so I guess he's keeping it

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Old 08-14-2014, 06:21 PM   #1048
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Was the 18 psi still without the boost a pump on e85?

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That 11 # pull looks a lot better this time around.. 500 and 500 on a relatively safe and stable tune would not be too bad at all. That should go along way towards a great daily driver.
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Yea no boost a pump on e85. Yea we got it figured out at that boost range still needs some tweaking but the dyno is still acting up so have to get as close as we could it wouldn't stop again today

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