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Old 08-17-2014, 03:20 PM   #1121
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Yea he didn't know what paypal was so I don't think he's on here lol

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Do you have a pic of the exhaust hook up and how it transitions.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:38 PM   #1123
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No not on the car it's just a y pipe

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I hope the turbo is not powered by this from the inside..... http://speedsociety.com/new-breed-turbo/?var=ss

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Wow was not expecting that lol

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Old 08-18-2014, 06:59 AM   #1126
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If we sold it for 4k it would be a journal bearing, cast wheel, and oil fed so you'd have to tap the oil pan. Then no injectors... we are gonna offer one for around 4-4700 with the oil fed turbo.

The 4k will be for people only to make 4-450 if they would want to use stock injectors and really want to go on a budget

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I'd be plenty happy with that, even better if it spooled real quick for much improved low end (which I realize going back to journal is a step in the wrong direction for spool). Is the tripple ball bearing option still oil fed.

My ideal kit would also be exh and WG routed back through a very quiet exhaust and even the BOV routed back into intake to make it as quiet as possible. Looking for stealth since a black mustang (even a base V6) attracts enough LEO attention just by itself.

BTW, I switched this post back to the original turbo thread, as it seemed like Alre's install thread was starting to get jacked, unless he does not care.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:55 AM   #1127
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The kit is almost the same exact price as procharger I mean unless you find a used one but there's not 500 used ones out there. Yea going to to the cheaper version will loose spool time. But I'm telling you my car is almost instant spool.

Why would you route the bov back into the intake?

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He wants a stealth car, and they make 100% recirculating BPV (bypass valve technically) that just route it back into the intake. Not quite as much fun in my opinion, but to each his own.
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:21 AM   #1129
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Yea it's basically what they have in the procharger kit. I guess if that's what you want

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He wants a stealth car, and they make 100% recirculating BPV (bypass valve technically) that just route it back into the intake. Not quite as much fun in my opinion, but to each his own.
Yeah, my fun is driving moderately aggressive, while attracting as little attention as possible. WAY too many cops here. We have half the number of cops of texas. Only 5 states have more cops statewide than nj in the whole country (see page 15)
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It is a royal PIA, but I digress.

I've had BOV's both ways and prefer routing it back in. Have never run a blow through MAF though, so I assume you don't even have to route it back in, you could even put a filter of some sort or a longer tube on the outlet to quiet it down. It would be something I fab myslef, not worried if the kit had it or not.

I would have liked to see a dyno run with DP and WG's both back though stock exh, just to see what the limit on HP of stock exh system is. I would be fine if I had to run 1 or 2 higher lbs of boost, through stock exh, to see my desired HP, as long as it is quiet.
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Yea it's basically what they have in the procharger kit. I guess if that's what you want

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That is also how the EcoBoosts are set up... they use a BPV...
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Yeah, my fun is driving moderately aggressive, while attracting as little attention as possible. WAY too many cops here. We have half the number of cops of texas. Only 5 states have more cops statewide than nj in the whole country (see page 15)
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/csllea08.pdf

It is a royal PIA, but I digress.

I've had BOV's both ways and prefer routing it back in. Have never run a blow through MAF though, so I assume you don't even have to route it back in, you could even put a filter of some sort or a longer tube on the outlet to quiet it down. It would be something I fab myslef, not worried if the kit had it or not.

I would have liked to see a dyno run with DP and WG's both back though stock exh, just to see what the limit on HP of stock exh system is. I would be fine if I had to run 1 or 2 higher lbs of boost, through stock exh, to see my desired HP, as long as it is quiet.
After this event coming up I'll see if I can get one for yall or if we can get the numbers from the guy we are sending this next kit out to. I will let yall know. If it did affect horsepower at all I would assume it would maybe be 15 or 20

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Old 08-18-2014, 02:35 PM   #1133
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The kit is almost the same exact price as procharger I mean unless you find a used one but there's not 500 used ones out there. Yea going to to the cheaper version will loose spool time. But I'm telling you my car is almost instant spool.

Why would you route the bov back into the intake?

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Old 08-18-2014, 03:25 PM   #1134
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Then you just get to be triple ball bearing instead of journal bearing if you pay the extra 200

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What is the cooling system for the non oil pan tapped turbo?

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Old 08-18-2014, 07:56 PM   #1136
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What is the cooling system for the non oil pan tapped turbo?

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I guess that's what the giant intercooler is all about. I really need to look up my old lecture notes from my internal combustion engines class at the University of Michigan. I took it in 2006 when I was getting my bachelor's in mechanical engineering. Great class, taught by one of the world's leading engine researchers, Dr. Dennis Assanis. We had a couple lectures all about turbos. Can hardly remember a thing though. Like many things from college.

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Old 08-18-2014, 08:08 PM   #1138
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How does it get through the turbo? My concern is engine off time, will there still be circulation?

With older turbos being cooled by the engine, it was possible to have issues turning the car right off, as the turbo may not be cool enough to sit still.

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Old 08-18-2014, 08:11 PM   #1139
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It stays in there I had it shoot everywhere today trust me it's good and it has all kinds of oils and greases in it that make it ok. I've had it on for a few thousand miles and we've had them on a few other cars that also have 10k plus and it's good!

You don't have to worry about the turbo timer and all that stuff it will be fine

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Sorry guys couldn't wait any longer 600 on stock motor is decent I guess lol

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It stays in there I had it shoot everywhere today trust me it's good and it has all kinds of oils and greases in it that make it ok. I've had it on for a few thousand miles and we've had them on a few other cars that also have 10k plus and it's good!

You don't have to worry about the turbo timer and all that stuff it will be fine

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I bet you the reason UltArc is asking this is that he built an engine cut off switch for his car. He kills it when coasting or sitting at lights, just like hybrids do. He will have much more frequent engine off time than your typical user.

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No it stays flowing plus as long as you aren't racing with no coolant going through it you'll be fine. It stays in there for awhile I had my car off for like 30 minutes and it shot a good foot in the air for about 20 seconds when I pulled the hose off so you'd be fine

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Exactly. I don't really cut it AT lights, unless I know how long it is. Usually I cut on my way to the light, or say into the parking lot or whatever, and coast it out. Either to my parking space, or to time the light. The most fuel is used in acceleration, so I try to keep my car moving and not have to waste fuel on getting going. Just a guess, but 0-15 probably takes more fuel than 15-45.

What is your reasoning on this getting better fuel economy?

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So you pulled the motor?
Kaboom?

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Sorry guys couldn't wait any longer 600 on stock motor is decent I guess lol

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Nope no kaboom just need to break it in for street car takeover. And because my mileage went up like 8mpg because the motors not having to work as hard so it makes it go up!

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Sorry guys couldn't wait any longer 600 on stock motor is decent I guess lol Sent from my SM-N900V using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Who else is gonna be brave enough to push it to 600? I wonder if u had a unicorn motor or something? Can't wait to see what u do once it's built!
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Haha we will see I would have gone farther if I didn't have street car takeover! I don't think so I think it's just tuning... well you'll see soon once it's broke in 30 psi and nitrous haha

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Exactly. I don't really cut it AT lights, unless I know how long it is. Usually I cut on my way to the light, or say into the parking lot or whatever, and coast it out. Either to my parking space, or to time the light. The most fuel is used in acceleration, so I try to keep my car moving and not have to waste fuel on getting going. Just a guess, but 0-15 probably takes more fuel than 15-45.

What is your reasoning on this getting better fuel economy?

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Nope no kaboom just need to break it in for street car takeover. And because my mileage went up like 8mpg because the motors not having to work as hard so it makes it go up!

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I can't remember if I said this here or in PM with Connor, so I'll say it again. If UltArc put this kit on his car, he would get at least 50 mpg, maybe 60. And he would still dyno 500 like all the rest. Imagine what a publicity stunt that would be for LPF. Ford advertised the 3.7L Mustang as the first production vehicle to get 300+ hp with 30+ mpg. UltArc+LPF could get 500+ hp with 50+ mpg. Kicka$$.

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I am willing to move forward with this. Lol, but serious.

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That would be crazy! The pressure would be tremendous haha

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Hey clamphier what night you going to street take over ? Sat. Or sun?
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I'm going there everyday we are in with 1320 so wherever they go we are going lol

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30 psi and nitrous? What #s will killer 6 be makin ?

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Going for 750-800 just depends how it responds to both might make more lol

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