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Old 03-04-2014, 03:05 AM   #36
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Are you doubting that the 3.7 V6 runs nearly just as well as the previous 4.6 V8?



From motortrend - 2011 Ford Mustang V-6 First Test - Motor Trend



2011 3.7 V6 6spd Track Pack (3.31 gears) - 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.7 at 102.0 mph



2010 Mustang GT Track Pack (3.73 gears) - 0 to 60 in 4.9 and the quarter mile in 13.5 at 104.2



.2 seconds to 60 and that lead carries over through the 1320. That means it is likely a gearing advantage and not a power advantage. Looks to me like the 3.7 does just about as well as the previous 3V 4.6. All while achieving 19/29 MPG against the V8's 16/24 MPG.

Put 3.73 or 4.10 gears in the new 3.7 and a cai with tune. Easily like I originally said earlier will Destroy a older 05-10 GT...and I agree that you can mod out a GT but I can do it for under $1000 faster than a stock GT. Even a modded out GT or a new 2014 GT throw $5000 at a 3.7 and it will beat them for much less than a GT cost from the dealer.

I think others have said it right that people with the 5.0 v8 mentality of V6 engines being slow or crap is a thing of the past. There is turbo 4 bangers that will hand both of the cars a run for their money. I love muscle cars and the sounds and everything about then but a 3.7 with Borlas sounds GREAT and the power is definitely there for the $8000 savings and supercharged can be more than the GT for half the cost.
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Put 3.73 or 4.10 gears in the new 3.7 and a cai with tune. Easily like I originally said earlier will Destroy a older 05-10 GT...and I agree that you can mod out a GT but I can do it for under $1000 faster than a stock GT. Even a modded out GT or a new 2014 GT throw $5000 at a 3.7 and it will beat them for much less than a GT cost from the dealer. I think others have said it right that people with the 5.0 v8 mentality of V6 engines being slow or crap is a thing of the past. There is turbo 4 bangers that will hand both of the cars a run for their money. I love muscle cars and the sounds and everything about then but a 3.7 with Borlas sounds GREAT and the power is definitely there for the $8000 savings and supercharged can be more than the GT for half the cost.
No way u can make a 3.7 as fast as a 5.0 for half the difference in price!
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The 4.6 may put out less hp per cubic inch than the 3.7, but hey, at least it's still a V8.

Personally, I'm keeping my motor stock. Why? I don't track/drag my car, so it only sees the street. I don't find it necessary to put $1,000's when I've almost got 300 HP at my foot already. However, I do love the muscular V8 sound and styling of the GT. It's just my personal preference.

Do I wish I had bought a Coyote instead? Maybe. I believe 2010 was a lucky find though. Clean carfax, 1owner, weekend driver, 15K mi, Premium loaded out to my tastes, bone stock, even had a new Ford warranty.

When I'm an old man I'll have my resto 2012 GT Premium in Race Red
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The bottom line is they are all still Ford Mustangs and still going strong after fifty years. Who the hell cares what engine? Some of us like the six and some can't live without a V8. As long as we like what we have there is no reason to try to put down anyone else's Mustang.
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I was in the same boat when I bought my 11 v6. The insurance is what got me. It was $400 more every 6 months. I came from a 180 hp 2002 v6 mustang. So either way, I was getting the previous GT performance. I could have gotten the base GT or a 11 v6 premium. I liked the toys and comforts in the premium and my insurance was lower. Also, the v6 had 25k on it.

If I could have gotten the v8, I would have. There are ALOT of v6's on the road now. Not so many GT
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I think we scared the OP away! Lmao. At the end of the day a mustang is a mustang! Whether u want it for speed, looks, comfort just get w/e suits YOU best!! We can sit here & compare all the mustang to each other but there apples & oranges..they're each different & awesome in their own way!
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No way u can make a 3.7 as fast as a 5.0 for half the difference in price!
A 100% stock 3.7 with a tune and a 100 shot will be as fast or faster than a stock 5.0 for less than $1500...
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OP, here is something that MAY be of value. It seems like you want both toys & power so you might as well buy the top of the line rather than havng this conversation again (with depreciation again)

In the NO value area I would get a base V8 of a color I didn't like over a premium V6 in my favorite color w/o a moments hesitation.
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A GT is certainly going to be fast, but youll probably regret getting a base model when you walk up to it or looking around the interior.

Isn't the lack of amenities the reason you looking elsewhere anyway? In my opinion speed doesn't completely make up for this.

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which to buy-2014 v-6 premium or gt standard?

The V6 is pretty quick but if I were buying either one I'd go with the GT
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MORE POWER is easy too get. Heck with giving up a loaded model with leather and all the technology goodies for a bare bones base model. F that crap. I have a base model and doesn't hold a candle too the premium package with leather seats.
That 'bare bones' model still has PW/PDL/PM, leather steering wheel, HID headlights, adjustable steering, TC/SC etc. etc. etc. It sure as hell is not what was meant by base model when the aero Fox came out.
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A 100% stock 3.7 with a tune and a 100 shot will be as fast or faster than a stock 5.0 for less than $1500...
I should have specified that I meant S/C or T/C. But nitrous would be smarter if u wanna spend less money..till u gotta keep filling the tank! Lmao. JK. Btw would u happen to know why a 100% stock 3.7 with a 100 shot would run 1/4? That actually seems like a really smart idea!
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OP, here is something that MAY be of value. It seems like you want both toys & power so you might as well buy the top of the line rather than havng this conversation again (with depreciation again)

In the NO value area I would get a base V8 of a color I didn't like over a premium V6 in my favorite color w/o a moments hesitation.
Respectfully, I couldn't disagree more. Having to choose, I would purchase and rather have a fully loaded premium V6 model over a base V8 model. Making a 3.7 faster is easy when your starting with 305 HP right from factory. Gaining power is easy!
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I should have specified that I meant S/C or T/C. But nitrous would be smarter if u wanna spend less money..till u gotta keep filling the tank! Lmao. JK. Btw would u happen to know why a 100% stock 3.7 with a 100 shot would run 1/4? That actually seems like a really smart idea!
My guess with 3.31 gears and stock size tires would be around 12.7 - 13.0 @ 111 - 115 MPH.

Should be fairly close to stock or lightly modded GT.

As for filling the tank, your typically looking at around $35 - $50 per a 10lb bottle depending on where you live. That should last enough on a 100 shot to get 8 or 9 good runs in @ 1000 - 1100 psi and maybe a little more if you drop the bottle pressure down.

On a 150 shot with a 10lb bottle, @ 1050 psi I can get around 7 passes at the strip spraying from 2nd gear onward in my Z28.

Once Ford gets my MT82 issues taken care of, I will be tuning and spraying the car. Hopefully this all happens while the air is still good.
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The new V6 destroys the previous made GT's and has plenty of power. I love my 3.7

I wouldn't say destroy. But it can definitely hold it's own
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That 'bare bones' model still has PW/PDL/PM, leather steering wheel, HID headlights, adjustable steering, TC/SC etc. etc. etc. It sure as hell is not what was meant by base model when the aero Fox came out.
I'm sure a bare base model aero Fox body had a lot more compared to a base1960's Ford model. Its called progress but regardless I personally rather have the options in a loaded premium model over another model that's faster but bottom trim level.

If the OP desires more power then what he currently has their are plenty of options out for the 3.7 to achieve that goal besides buying a V8.
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Op either way you go you can't go wrong it's still a mustang.
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I would get whatever makes you happy and enjoy
I totally agree with that and everybody has different things that make them happy and enjoy. To each their own and what's important too one may not be important to another enthusiast. Some people it's just not important to have a v8 and 420 horsepower. Some people just love the look of a Mustang and only need 305 horsepower because it fits their needs and wants.
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The base interior on the Mustangs are atrocious. It's not something I could deal with day to day.

The premium package is well worth the extra money. The 5.0 is simply not worth anything near the $8,000 markup over the 3.7.

OP needs to ask himself, does he want a nice car or a fast car.

Either way, I would wait until the '15 comes out before I traded anything in.
Atrocious lol
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Atrocious lol
I have a base 3.7 and certainly its far from atrocious. In fact, I find the interior nice and love the layout of the radio and console. I just like the leather and premium package interior more than mine along with all the electronic goodies. I really wish I had the tech package, sync package, leather seats , performance package, along with the back up camera. That would be my personal chose over a base V8.
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I have a base 3.7 and certainly its far from atrocious. In fact, I find the interior nice and love the layout of the radio and console. I just like the leather and premium package interior more than mine along with all the electronic goodies. I really wish I had the tech package, sync package, leather seats , performance package, along with the back up camera. That would be my personal chose over a base V8.
After reading that comment I posted a pic of my interior. I love my base stang, so what im missing a few buttons. Im a big gt fan always was and always will be. I purchased my car as the base model for the following reasons. 1st I traded in my 13 f150 with the 5.0 for the v6 stang for fuel economy. 2nd my plans are to purchase after market wheels, and parts 3rd I didnt need track pack, leather, navi, or the tech features. Your just paying for yesterdays technology. I not bashing it everyone has there preferences. I bought a limited flex with all the buttons my stang is good as is. I like not having a rear spolier, at 18,000 new the extra $$$ gives me some room for aftermarket upgrades.
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Atrocious lol
It's about as low quality of an interior as can be fit into a car that costs $23,000.

Look at the interiors of the Focus and Fiesta, they are nicer than the base Mustangs.
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It's about as low quality of an interior as can be fit into a car that costs $23,000.

Look at the interiors of the Focus and Fiesta, they are nicer than the base Mustangs.
I wouldnt expect anything less than that from someone who owns a 99 camaro. Im just picking I like that catfish on your avatar so I threw out a lil bait to see if you would bite. I like the interior on the stangs, chevy should've taken notes for the new camaro. Off topic, my younger cousin has an 01 ss 11.70s n/a. Sweet looking car.
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After reading that comment I posted a pic of my interior. I love my base stang, so what im missing a few buttons. Im a big gt fan always was and always will be. I purchased my car as the base model for the following reasons. 1st I traded in my 13 f150 with the 5.0 for the v6 stang for fuel economy. 2nd my plans are to purchase after market wheels, and parts 3rd I didnt need track pack, leather, navi, or the tech features. Your just paying for yesterdays technology. I not bashing it everyone has there preferences. I bought a limited flex with all the buttons my stang is good as is. I like not having a rear spolier, at 18,000 new the extra $$$ gives me some room for aftermarket upgrades.
Don't get me wrong, If I were going too buy a GT I would buy the premium model with the tech package, sync system, back up camera, leather seats etc. I would not be bothered with brembo brakes or track pac options. The factory brakes stop the car just fine and the factory handling is also fine. I personally don't track the car so corning is not a huge concern of mine.

Again, for my preference I would choose the fully loaded premium V6 over a base 5.0 because having 5.0 emblems on my side panels, 100 more HP are not that important enough too pay an extra 7,500 dollars. I don't get sucked into that archaic V8 mentality of performance vehicles. If having a V8 was that important too me I would of just spent the extra 7,500 dollars back when I bought my 3.7. Instead I have taken the saved 7,500 dollars and put 4,000 dollars into my 3.7 and modded it exactly how I want the car to perform, sound and look. Had I gotten the base 5.0 at $7,500 dollars more I wouldn't have any money left too mod the car.

I would of needed too put at least 3k in mods too the 5.0 too make it how I want and that's on top of the already $7,500 more price tag to the 5.0.
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I wouldnt expect anything less than that from someone who owns a 99 camaro. Im just picking I like that catfish on your avatar so I threw out a lil bait to see if you would bite. I like the interior on the stangs, chevy should've taken notes for the new camaro. Off topic, my younger cousin has an 01 ss 11.70s n/a. Sweet looking car.
I didn't think the F-body interiors were all that bad, at least from a drivers perspective. The large hump in the floor on the passenger side is a bit much however.

I will admit that the new Camaro interiors looked awesome before the car actually went into production. Now they make the Mustangs interior look like a Maybachs by comparison. They are just awful (Camaro interiors if that wasn't clear).

My Z28 is capable of much lower times. I have yet to run the car on slicks, I know when I do, the current rear end will explode like all the previous ones have. Depending on how things work out this year with building my Talon and investing money into the 94 5.0, I might end up with a Moser 12 bolt and a set of slicks on the Z28 and go for low 10's.

That said, it doesn't take much more than a cam to get good times out the LS1 fbodies. Sounds like your cousin has a nice running car.
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My guess with 3.31 gears and stock size tires would be around 12.7 - 13.0 @ 111 - 115 MPH. Should be fairly close to stock or lightly modded GT. As for filling the tank, your typically looking at around $35 - $50 per a 10lb bottle depending on where you live. That should last enough on a 100 shot to get 8 or 9 good runs in @ 1000 - 1100 psi and maybe a little more if you drop the bottle pressure down. On a 150 shot with a 10lb bottle, @ 1050 psi I can get around 7 passes at the strip spraying from 2nd gear onward in my Z28. Once Ford gets my MT82 issues taken care of, I will be tuning and spraying the car. Hopefully this all happens while the air is still good.
Spray is actually a smart way to go with the 3.7! Only down side is not always having the power IMO.
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Spray is actually a smart way to go with the 3.7! Only down side is not always having the power IMO.
If I was looking for boost on my 3.7, I would install a super charger and call it a day.
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Agree. Glad my wife sits in the passenger seat and not me. That hump is there to make room for the cat, but very uncomfortable spot. I've sat there while cleaning my '95 T/A and found it to be awkward.
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Spray is actually a smart way to go with the 3.7! Only down side is not always having the power IMO.

You really only need the ton of power when racing. And Nitrous is activated at WOT, that makes it perfect. Have a car that's tame around town but it can open up when you need the power.
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I didn't think the F-body interiors were all that bad, at least from a drivers perspective. The large hump in the floor on the passenger side is a bit much however.

I will admit that the new Camaro interiors looked awesome before the car actually went into production. Now they make the Mustangs interior look like a Maybachs by comparison. They are just awful (Camaro interiors if that wasn't clear).

My Z28 is capable of much lower times. I have yet to run the car on slicks, I know when I do, the current rear end will explode like all the previous ones have. Depending on how things work out this year with building my Talon and investing money into the 94 5.0, I might end up with a Moser 12 bolt and a set of slicks on the Z28 and go for low 10's.

That said, it doesn't take much more than a cam to get good times out the LS1 fbodies. Sounds like your cousin has a nice running car.
Yes he has a very well built car. He has a 6.8(416) that dyno 580 to the rear wheels. It's a 6spd and he just installed a ford 9" with 3.90 gears. The rearend end came from a company that builds the 9" for a direct bolt end. The car is black with ttops 19" wheels and has lts with true duels under the axle. The best time at the track with drag radials is 11.8et 130 trap 2.0 60ft. Thats having to let off in 2nd gear to stop the spinning. He installed a 250 shot system on the car but isn't going to try it till the traction bugs are worked out. I'll try and find his youtube video and post it.
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Of course the V6 will never be worth what a v8 is worth. The v8 costs 7,500 plus dollars more so when you sell the V8 you will get more. Isn't that obvious. The v6 will resell for less than a GT but the V6 costs less. Who gives a crap if the v6 sells for less. We paid less for the V6 so it works out too be the same. The 5.0 smoking a V6 is irrelevant.

Again, making a 3.7 faster is easy! Its like a house. I would rather have the smallest house is the nicest and best area then have a big a$$ house in a crap area. I would rather have a fully loaded smaller V6 than a bigger engine that offers nothing other than going faster from 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile. I would rather take the extra money saved and put it into a supercharger on the 3.7 too make 400 plus rwhp which compared to a stock 5.0 at 360 rwhp.
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The base interior on the Mustangs are atrocious. It's not something I could deal with day to day.

The premium package is well worth the extra money. The 5.0 is simply not worth anything near the $8,000 markup over the 3.7.

OP needs to ask himself, does he want a nice car or a fast car.

Either way, I would wait until the '15 comes out before I traded anything in.
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Yes he has a very well built car. He has a 6.8(416) that dyno 580 to the rear wheels. It's a 6spd and he just installed a ford 9" with 3.90 gears. The rearend end came from a company that builds the 9" for a direct bolt end. The car is black with ttops 19" wheels and has lts with true duels under the axle. The best time at the track with drag radials is 11.8et 130 trap 2.0 60ft. Thats having to let off in 2nd gear to stop the spinning. He installed a 250 shot system on the car but isn't going to try it till the traction bugs are worked out. I'll try and find his youtube video and post it.
Sounds like a beast. Is it still a street car or mainly a strip car? He's got props from me for still keeping it a 6spd, with the spray, he should be able to hit low 10's @ around 140.
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Oh God not you again but yes a 4.6 is alot faster than any V6 and Z28's and SS's i ran them all with my 2007 and never lost.

Im still waiting on those pics of you beating that Ford GT
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