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Old 03-07-2014, 11:27 PM   #1
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Bama vs. Lund tunes

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I am relatively new to the forum world. I have a '12 V6 with the V6 Performance Package. It has the following mods: K&N CAI, BBK 73mm throttle body, MAC Performance LT headers, shorty h-pipe, full Pypes exhaust (no cats). Needless to say, it's pretty quick already, but now I'm looking to add on a tune to really wake this beast up After doing some research I've narrowed it down to two choices; Bama and Lund. I'm kinda leaning towards Lund b/c it seems that everyone runs Bama and I want to be different. Also, I've read that Lund gets a bit more power out of their tunes than Bama. What do you guys think? Are there any others you would recommend instead?
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Hi everyone,
I am relatively new to the forum world. I have a '12 V6 with the V6 Performance Package. It has the following mods: K&N CAI, BBK 73mm throttle body, MAC Performance LT headers, shorty h-pipe, full Pypes exhaust (no cats). Needless to say, it's pretty quick already, but now I'm looking to add on a tune to really wake this beast up After doing some research I've narrowed it down to two choices; Bama and Lund. I'm kinda leaning towards Lund b/c it seems that everyone runs Bama and I want to be different. Also, I've read that Lund gets a bit more power out of their tunes than Bama. What do you guys think? Are there any others you would recommend instead?
MPT! I run MPT Bama and Steeda! MPT is my favorite and most powerful of my three tunes.
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Either get MPT or Lund for your tune. You will love Bama for maybe a week then want a different company to tune your car lol. Many people switch from Bama and love the more agressive tunes from other companies. My MPT is night and day difference over my old bama tune.
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Mad is your shorty h pipe from Mac as well? id love to hear a sound clip from your car at idle and rev it. Not many people get Mac LT for our v6 im curious how your setup sounds.
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Lund is top notch. You won't be left unsatisfied.
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I've read in a couple of threads that MPT pulls insane in low + mid rpms, while Lund shines at high rpms. Anyone who has a personal experience with both?

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Lund, simple as that.

My question to you is, why didn't you get a tune first? That CAI and TB are nothing but paper weights right now... There's doing absolute nothing in terms of gains. Same with those long tubes, at least your exhaust may be louder. Although a good tune can tie all of those mods together and make them come to life.
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I would go with either MPT, Lund or VMP. A lot of V6 guys don't know that VMP makes tunes for us too, not just the GT/Boss. I have a 91 H Bama tune now and they have a hard time using the full potential of my mods. I feel like the car isn't any faster than when it was just stock with a tune. I'm looking elsewhere for my tuning. Most likely Lund or MPT.
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I personally have never had any issues with my bama tunes however my MPT is my favorite. 75 dollars for an MPT is an amazing deal. Its my understanding the hard core mustang enthusiasts that frequent SVT mustang forums use Lund. Lund is 200 dollars and from what I have been told, well worth it. I have no experience with Lund, but since I have MPT, Love it I would recommend you at least try MPT first. You will not be disappointed..
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Lots of good advice here on the tunes they gave you. My question is with all those mods, have you done any data logging in Torque or DashCommand to see what your car's computer is doing to compensate for those mods without a tune?

How is your stock idle on the stock tune with LongTubes, no Cats and a TB added? Normally those are items you need a tune to put on to prevent "possible" engine damage. What are you doing to keep the check Engine lights from coming on with no CATs? Where did you put your rear O2 sensors?
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Lots of good advice here on the tunes they gave you. My question is with all those mods, have you done any data logging in Torque or DashCommand to see what your car's computer is doing to compensate for those mods without a tune?

How is your stock idle on the stock tune with LongTubes, no Cats and a TB added? Normally those are items you need a tune to put on to prevent "possible" engine damage. What are you doing to keep the check Engine lights from coming on with no CATs? Where did you put your rear O2 sensors?
The check engine light doesn't come on because the tuning company takes care of that. Your definitely not going to want too drive your car on stock tune with long tubes and off road mid pipe.
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Kona, the OP is currently on the stock tune. Thus, his CELs haven't been turned off yet.
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The check engine light doesn't come on because the tuning company takes care of that. Your definitely not going to want too drive your car on stock tune with long tubes and off road mid pipe.
Hi Kona; The OP is asking about getting a Tune for the first time in the subject title of this post. So I am interested in what is going on in the OP's car without a tune and those Mods like you and I say need a tune to be able to run with.
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Lots of good advice here on the tunes they gave you. My question is with all those mods, have you done any data logging in Torque or DashCommand to see what your car's computer is doing to compensate for those mods without a tune?

How is your stock idle on the stock tune with LongTubes, no Cats and a TB added? Normally those are items you need a tune to put on to prevent "possible" engine damage. What are you doing to keep the check Engine lights from coming on with no CATs? Where did you put your rear O2 sensors?
The check engine light doesn't come on because the tuning company takes care of that. Your definitely not going to want too drive your car on stock tune with long tubes and off road mid pipe for any length of time.
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The check engine light doesn't come on because the tuning company takes care of that. Your definitely not going to want too drive your car on stock tune with long tubes and off road mid pipe for any length of time.
I am not sure why you would repeat that statement based on the above intel
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I am not sure why you would repeat that statement based on the above intel
Sorry bro, I'm lost on what your saying? What statement did I repeat?

Lmao..sorry! I just misunderstood. My bad guys. Sorry. Really. I'm sober! Lmao
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Sorry bro, I'm lost on what your saying? What statement did I repeat?
Kona, please be able to read; and look at the posts...
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Kona, please be able to read; and look at the posts...
Lmao..sorry! I just misunderstood. My bad guys. Sorry. Really. I'm sober! Lmao
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Lund, simple as that.

My question to you is, why didn't you get a tune first? That CAI and TB are nothing but paper weights right now... There's doing absolute nothing in terms of gains. Same with those long tubes, at least your exhaust may be louder. Although a good tune can tie all of those mods together and make them come to life.
Good question. Main reason I didn't do a tune first was b/c I wasn't sure which one I wanted. If I decide to go with Lund I didn't want to spend $200 every time I added something else on for an updated file. So I decided to get all my bolt-ons first and then worry about the tune later.
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I believe Lund sends free updated tune files for simple bolt-on additions.
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Lots of good advice here on the tunes they gave you. My question is with all those mods, have you done any data logging in Torque or DashCommand to see what your car's computer is doing to compensate for those mods without a tune?

How is your stock idle on the stock tune with LongTubes, no Cats and a TB added? Normally those are items you need a tune to put on to prevent "possible" engine damage. What are you doing to keep the check Engine lights from coming on with no CATs? Where did you put your rear O2 sensors?
To be honest the majority of the parts were installed just recently. I don't drive my Mustang during the winter so it's been sitting in my garage since November. I took it for a quick spin on one of the only nice days we've had so far to make sure there were no leaks, weird vibrations, etc. Since then I haven't had much time to mess around with it. It currently does run a bit rough at idle but that's to be expected. Once I get my tuner I'll be able to take care of that as well as my CEL.
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If Lund is too critical for you then you can also consider Steeda. It's a real tunes for life program like Bama and cost the same. I have Bama and Steeda tunes and I personally prefer Steeda.
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I believe Lund sends free updated tune files for simple bolt-on additions.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info, it's looking more and more likely I'm going to go with Lund
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I believe Lund sends free updated tune files for simple bolt-on additions.

This. They will update for simple bolt-ons. I verified this past Friday when I called them as I'm thinking about going with them & it's not a good idea to be driving without a tune with the mods you have.
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I believe Lund sends free updated tune files for simple bolt-on additions.
+ 1 ^ Lund does offer free updated tunes for bolt on mods. As long as your not adding a supercharger, turbo or nitrous Lund will update your mods for free. Its on their web site. Free updated tunes!
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Lund is the only person I have ever heard of that will reply to your emails, and even datalog and make a new tune for you at midnight on the weekend. That right there assured me that they are the best available. I know that wouldn't always happen but he just happened to be on his email, and he helped me a lot.
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Lund is the only person I have ever heard of that will reply to your emails, and even datalog and make a new tune for you at midnight on the weekend. That right there assured me that they are the best available. I know that wouldn't always happen but he just happened to be on his email, and he helped me a lot.
No doubt Lund does amazing tunes. One of the best in the profession, I'm sure.
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Lund will blow any tune out of the water. Period. MPT doesn't have crap on a lund tune.

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Lund will blow any tune out of the water. Period. MPT doesn't have crap on a lund tune.

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You could be right? Do you run a Lund tune? Do you run an MPT tune?
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I have run bama mpt and now lund. Jon Lund is the master of tuning our cars. He is figured out fuel mapping issues others haven't.

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I have run bama mpt and now lund. Jon Lund is the master of tuning our cars. He is figured out fuel mapping issues others haven't.

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So how much faster in the 1/4 mile does your mustang run with your Lund tune over your MPT tune?
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To be honest the majority of the parts were installed just recently. I don't drive my Mustang during the winter so it's been sitting in my garage since November. I took it for a quick spin on one of the only nice days we've had so far to make sure there were no leaks, weird vibrations, etc. Since then I haven't had much time to mess around with it. It currently does run a bit rough at idle but that's to be expected. Once I get my tuner I'll be able to take care of that as well as my CEL.
10-4 on the storing since November, mines locked up as well. What did the shop do with your rear O2 sensors once they took the CATs off? Did your CEL go on? It sounds like it did based on your last line. Congrates on getting all those mods done at once, that is like the full intake/exhaust list.

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Lmao..sorry! I just misunderstood. My bad guys. Sorry. Really. I'm sober! Lmao
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Hi everyone,
I am relatively new to the forum world. I have a '12 V6 with the V6 Performance Package. It has the following mods: K&N CAI, BBK 73mm throttle body, MAC Performance LT headers, shorty h-pipe, full Pypes exhaust (no cats). Needless to say, it's pretty quick already, but now I'm looking to add on a tune to really wake this beast up After doing some research I've narrowed it down to two choices; Bama and Lund. I'm kinda leaning towards Lund b/c it seems that everyone runs Bama and I want to be different. Also, I've read that Lund gets a bit more power out of their tunes than Bama. What do you guys think? Are there any others you would recommend instead?
MadGenius,

I don't think you could go wrong with Lund Racing or Bama. Both are reputable tuners that have been in the game for a very long time. I obviously have more experience and information with Bama Performance though.

For every Bama Tune we ask you 19 questions about your specific Mustang, including your unique mods and style of driving. This info helps us write custom tunes from the ground-up for your Mustang's mods that will give you the most horsepower that we can safely deliver. We're also constantly developing our tunes! Between 14 different Project Mustangs, tons of street/track testing and dyno testing on our in-house Dynojet 224xLC, we're able to really dial in your Mustang!

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So how much faster in the 1/4 mile does your mustang run with your Lund tune over your MPT tune?
Idk never ran my car with the MPT tune. I had nothing but problems with it. I had 4 tune revisions done and all them caused my car cut during acceleration. I will hopefully be running my car this Thursday. If I do I will post my times. Look up some of the stangs he has tuned and the speed and e/t records they hold. That's why Jon Lund is the best.

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I also know somebody that was running an mpt tune and was having problems. He had Jon look at it and then told mpt how to fix the tune lol.

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