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Old 03-17-2014, 07:48 PM   #1
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Swapped V8 out from my V6 -~$7.5k

Hi folks, I will be doing a build thread here, how I swapped and got the Coyote motor. The first step was doing lots of research on costs and trouble to do it.

While I really only paid $7.5K for the swap, I get bit by something I am totally aware of but didn't think about for some reason; got me for an extra $2k that I will explain later tonight or tomorrow putting the true cost at about $9.5K. But as a bonus, I got a manual trans swap as well.

With the help of a few friends and some finance work that paid off I got it running today and its home in the Garage, the Grabber Blue Horse now feels downright violent at times.

When I first modded my V6 I put an insurance fund in the bank to cover repairs. I also added to it each payday to make it save up for Forced Induction mod or a V8 Swap. After much pain over the fall and winter I pulled off the swap. I will explain more shortly.

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Very cool!!! Congrats! Please post asap!

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Most of the pain was stressing over how impractical a V8 swap is, I also read all that went into the successful auto to MT82 mod that is posted here on the forum. So I studied all the costs, all the extra parts needed like ECM and Body control modules, suspension , drive shaft, transmission in the autos gearing was different, and man that is a bunch of stuff to have to do. Finding a crashed doner mustang was the only way to solve all those parts issues; or was it?
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Nice.... Now i'm interested how exactly you will handle the insurance now? Is it going to be considered a GT to them because of the V8, or do they still classify it as V6? I'm sure you would have to let them know somehow....
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The auto to a manual is icing on the cake! Can't wait to hear the details, I'm happy you pulled it off! I can imagine the huge relief when it started up!

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Nice.... Now i'm interested how exactly you will handle the insurance now? Is it going to be considered a GT to them because of the V8, or do they still classify it as V6? I'm sure you would have to let them know somehow....
When I did my 88' t-bird 3.8 to 5.0 swap I was changing insurance companies at the time and when they were gathering info from me it was pretty much, model year, vin, and displacement, that was it about the car. That being said it was in 99' and I'm not sure if something would have happened, accident etc if I would of had problems or not though.

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Looking forward to this!!
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Insurance is not an issue. I am in my early 1/3rd 50s. The difference between a V6 and a Shelby 5.8 Trinity motor is only $11 for a clean driver with no tickets in 30 years. I am expecting my new insurance to increase about $8 per month.
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So what I did was to search out lots of websites that had whole and crashed cars for auction. I got the listings and it was full of tons of work. I figured if things went wrong I could be due for about $10K of crap for awhile
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Wow I'm interested to hear this.

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A new coyote motor is $6500 and a T56 Magnum XL trans kit is another $4000 plus the electricals and labor. Would make one fine hot rod. I just found out (Modern Driveline) that the Magnum XL will fit my stock V6 and the LS engine with just a bell housing swap. BMR also makes an LS tubular K member for the S197. It's going to be a fun project.
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I wish I lived close by you Art, I'd offer a hand in doing this swap. I tip my hat to you, as this is not an easy job. Will you have the donor Mustang/5.0 at the house during the swap? There's always a screw, bolt, or special fastener that is needed it seems to complete theb swap.

But hey, if it were easy, everyone would be doing it, right?

Keep us all going on the progress of that swap Art. We will keep you encouraged!
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Well, after I teased everyone, the swap was not that hard on tools and hands. Most of the tools were Autotrader, CarGuru, and Google. The Donor car idea you gave me Bucko !

What I did was find the perfect Donor car as close to mine as possible. I found a 2013 pre-certified GT premium with 5,000 miles on it traded in on an F-150. Cost $28.9 They gave me a very fair trade-in on my V6 with 21,000 miles.

The hard work was it did take about 4 hours at the dealership from test drive to drive home. Getting the Donor car to look as good as my V6. The beauty shop treatment next week is putting the same Stripes, Spoiler, qtr windows, and side scoops.

Getting bit for an extra 2K was the Ohio Sales Tax !
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Good one Art

You had me going.
It is the best way to do an engine swap though.
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You had me going.
It is the best way to do an engine swap though.
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Yes, the full working Donor car method is the best way after lots of research and number crunching, I was finally convinced. This forum is a great resource. I still have post parting syndrome, for my past car; but once I get the new horse prettied up it will pass. The hardest part was signing the divorce settlement papers....err... trade-in papers and more money
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Well, Congratulations on your new ride.

Don't worry about the money if you love the GT. You can always earn more money. Just don't forget us on this 3.7 V6 part of the Forum.
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You had me going as well lol
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Insurance is not an issue. I am in my early 1/3rd 50s. The difference between a V6 and a Shelby 5.8 Trinity motor is only $11 for a clean driver with no tickets in 30 years. I am expecting my new insurance to increase about $8 per month.

Amazing, I'm 62 and when I went from a '10 Taurus SEL to a '13 GT my insurance jumped up $60/month. I already had a '11 v6.
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Amazing, I'm 62 and when I went from a '10 Taurus SEL to a '13 GT my insurance jumped up $60/month. I already had a '11 v6.
How was the driving record? how many cars/trucks and your house are on your plan? I am on StateFarms good driver plan, and in 2012, she quoted me $11 more for the Shelby GT500 over my V6 premium. My 2013 V6 was ~$57 a month, my truck is $49.

At any rate I will provide the exact figure later today when I get with the agent.
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You had me going as well lol
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I fell for it! I figured this was going to make for a great sticky!

Oh well, it may happen some day that one of us decides to be crazy enough to get a wrecked GT, and swap out it's 5.0 into a V6 Mustang.
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+1 on being fooled. I was reading this going "wouldn't it just be the same $ to take your trade in depreciation hit, keep your wtty, all for a LOT less effort?"

Well done Sir.

I've driven both, the V8 is better.

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d@mn it!! I was sub'd and everything!!!
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Swapped V8 out from my V6 -~$7.5k

Got me all giddy to read up on this and then the right hook came in without me looking....lol

Good one Sir!!!
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Well, it is still a V8 swap, I just did it like Mud says. I did all the research and looked at donor cars on a crash site someone posted on a forum.

In the end it was same dollars and easier to find a donor car just like mine with the Manual and V8 in it already.

BTW, my monthly hit on car insurance is $4 more per month, $24 extra every six months.
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Insurance rates vary greatly depending on the traffic statistics in your area. I have a clean record and 30+. Since from what I'm told the traffic accident statistics here in Southeast TN compared to back home in Michigan is greater. If I were to move back to my hometown or out into a rural county, rates would decrease quite a bit
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Reading the title of the thread, I was hoping for an LSx/Tremec swap. Instead, I was bamboozled by a guy who traded his car in.

Shame on you sir.
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Damnit. Not cool
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Reading the title of the thread, I was hoping for an LSx/Tremec swap. Instead, I was bamboozled by a guy who traded his car in.

Shame on you sir.
Sorry for disappointing you, beg forgiveness. The purpose of the thread was to point out to all the others that have asked about this and will ask in the future, how impractical it was. I really worked on this idea most of the deep winter. When I started search donor cars and found how expensive some of them were, and at the same time deals on similar GTs, I came to the logical conclusion. The Donoar car would need to be almost complete to what I already had, the numbers worked out.

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Hey Art

I loved it I'm still laughing. You got a great point across that it is less expensive to just trade for a GT instead of trying to make a V6 into a GT. I got it.
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Reading the title of the thread, I was hoping for an LSx/Tremec swap. Instead, I was bamboozled by a guy who traded his car in.

Shame on you sir.

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Got me . I was going to tell you it would be a lot cheaper to trade for a GT.....
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I loved it I'm still laughing. You got a great point across that it is less expensive to just trade for a GT instead of trying to make a V6 into a GT. I got it.
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Yes, especially when I spent about 2-1/2 months doing lots of searching and research and reading tons threads on many forums about it. Wasted alot of time that would have been better spent on other thing. I did just as much research on forced induction and what I would have for it. It came down to FI or Full Donor Trade as the only wise choices.

Now if I wanted to Kiss My Sister, I could have put a LSx crate motor in it, but that would just not be right (sorry for stealing Alrefire

Would have been fun though
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LS swap not a big deal. K member/ bell housing for Tremec XL trans all available. If I were going to do a Ford swap it would be a Raptor 6.2 engine. That said, it means nothing to me what brand engine I use. I got over that 40+ years ago. It's just an air pump.
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