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Old 11-19-2014, 11:53 AM   #526
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Whatever you want it to be.
In my case, a stupid fast v6

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How about if someone was going to give you a v6 or a v8 for free what would you pick
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How about if someone was going to give you a v6 or a v8 for free what would you pick
Nothing in life is free, so I can't answer that question.

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Whatever you want it to be.
In my case, a stupid fast v6

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Deym, can I have this for free. I'll choose this over V8 any day😎😄
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5.0L = 302 Cubic inches
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I have a 2011 MCA edition w a V6 and the performance package and absolutely love it. My previous 'stang was a 2007 GT 4.6. My V6 has more horse power than the 4.6 V8. Better gas mileage and yes cheaper insurance. The only mod I have done is a K&N air filter and it makes a noticeable difference. Sure I miss the exhaust sound of the V8. The V6 has more of an import performance car sound, still very sporty


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I have a 2011 MCA edition w a V6 and the performance package and absolutely love it. My previous 'stang was a 2007 GT 4.6. My V6 has more horse power than the 4.6 V8. Better gas mileage and yes cheaper insurance. The only mod I have done is a K&N air filter and it makes a noticeable difference. Sure I miss the exhaust sound of the V8. The V6 has more of an import performance car sound, still very sporty


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Now le me ask you this bro. Since you had a retro 4.6 and now a 3.7. Which did you like better and how much slower is the 3.7 compared to your 4.6? I like to hear from owners who had the actual models and not just read about it. I feel the 3.7 provides nearly the same if not better performance and acceleration compared to the 4.6.

Would you say there even on power?
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Now le me ask you this bro. Since you had a retro 4.6 and now a 3.7. Which did you like better and how much slower is the 3.7 compared to your 4.6? I like to hear from owners who had the actual models and not just read about it. I feel the 3.7 provides nearly the same if not better performance and acceleration compared to the 4.6.

Would you say there even on power?

Or how much faster is the 3.7 compared to the 4.6?lol we walk these stock for stock people
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Nothing in life is free, so I can't answer that question.

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Really though hypothetically speaking
You just won a scratch off ticket for 40000 lol so you have enough to mod the hell out of a 3.7 or even mod up a 5.0 what would you do
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Really though hypothetically speaking
You just won a scratch off ticket for 40000 lol so you have enough to mod the hell out of a 3.7 or even mod up a 5.0 what would you do
I would mod my 3.7. Forge the engine, supercharge and that 3.7 could run 750 rwhp all day long or more
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Or how much faster is the 3.7 compared to the 4.6?lol we walk these stock for stock people
3.7 power baby.
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I second the notion of 3.7 sound. Don't get me wrong, the Coyote's growl is great, not taking that away from it. But I actually *LIKE* the high-strung smaller-displacement sound. Coming from an import world (RX-7 and Supra) I dig it. But also being a fan of Indy and F1 a tight-shifting, high-revving six is a beautiful noise in itself. Not instead of a V8, in addition to a V8. Both great.


I'm a nerd about power per cc, and the 3.7 really amazes me. The eco boost too. I'm just interested in how to make reliable power out of a smaller plant (hence my love of rotaries).


Practically speaking, I bought my '12 w/ 60k on the clock for $15k. Similarly equipped Coyotes with those miles were all between 25-30k and none of them as clean. So I'm having a TONNE of fun for cheap. Even without FI I should be able to get well over 300rwhp and for not that much more money amazingly. Like a couple grand. That STILL puts me well under 10k less than I'd have had to pay for a Coyote. If they were cheaper I'd totally get intot he Coyotes but if I can't pay straight cash for a car I am not buying it, so maybe one day.
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Or how much faster is the 3.7 compared to the 4.6?lol we walk these stock for stock people

Actually it's already been proven the 3V outperforms the 3.7, both stock for stock and mod for mod!.. You may have the same HP numbers, but you don't have nearly the same torque as the 3V!..


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Now le me ask you this bro. Since you had a retro 4.6 and now a 3.7. Which did you like better and how much slower is the 3.7 compared to your 4.6? I like to hear from owners who had the actual models and not just read about it. I feel the 3.7 provides nearly the same if not better performance and acceleration compared to the 4.6.

Would you say there even on power?
The 4.6 V8 has more pull when you step on it from standing still, because it has a wider band torque, the V6 you have to rev it up a bit to get the 305 HP out from it, but once you take off and ready to shift to 2nd, they both feel the same quick response characteristic of Mustangs
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I see this turned into a peacocking thread. Cool
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Actually it's already been proven the 3V outperforms the 3.7, both stock for stock and mod for mod!.. You may have the same HP numbers, but you don't have nearly the same torque as the 3V!..


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Valid point sir. Can't argue with that the 3V does have more torque. The numbers are very close and by no means the 3V kills the 3.7. Even if the 3V is faster its by a very small margin. I'm talking maybe by half or 1 car length. Still not bad for a non turbocharged N/A V6 to be so close to the V8's.
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Valid point sir. Can't argue with that the 3V does have more torque. The numbers are very close and by no means the 3V kills the 3.7. Even if the 3V is faster its by a very small margin. I'm talking maybe by half or 1 car length. Still not bad for a non turbocharged N/A V6 to be so close to the V8's.

No it's not by much, but a win is still a win!.. I inched out a Magnum SRT8 about a month ago in my '04 GT!.. Still not by much (literally by like 2 ft) but still put a smile on my face!..


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I would buy another 3.7 b4 I bought another 3v promise you that

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I am debating whether to get a Ferrari 458 Speciale or a Ferrari 458 with a 3.7 swap? Thoughts? LOL.

This thread always cracks me up. People are always going to go with what they own and come up with some justification. There is always a stat to back up every opinion.

Truth is everyone wants something different. BUT if you bought a Mustang it was to look good and go fast. If not you bought the wrong car. Thus ANYTHING other than making a Mustang as fast as can be and look just "perfect" (this part is all opinion) is simply a matter of funds.

If it is gas mileage than it is funds (or your a tree hugger and should buy a car that is great for enviroment)
If it is HP/cc then the V8 is the way to go... unless you do not have the funds to mod up huge (in which case the V6 wont be much cheaper to mod completely.
If I buy a V8 and you buy a V6 and we each get $15,000... I win... every time.

This is really just a post that everyone justifies their wallet capabilities
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I would take a 3V over a 3.7 any day!.. Simply because I like the way that V8 feels!..


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Actually it's already been proven the 3V outperforms the 3.7, both stock for stock and mod for mod!.. You may have the same HP numbers, but you don't have nearly the same torque as the 3V!..


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Whats the difference 30 torque stock?

What does the 3v rev to vs. the 3.7?
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I would take a 3V over a 3.7 any day!.. Simply because I like the way that V8 feels!..


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I have owned both.

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No it's not by much, but a win is still a win!.. I inched out a Magnum SRT8 about a month ago in my '04 GT!.. Still not by much (literally by like 2 ft) but still put a smile on my face!..


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That's it? I'm not trying to be an *** but I put multiple car lengths and pulling on a guy I work with that owns a silver Magnum SRT8 (not sure if year matters) and he let out of it when he saw he couldn't catch me, so I'm sure it would have been worse if he didn't let out so early.

The little 3.7 V6 everyone use to make fun of when I started working there and they found out it wasn't a V8 is now well respected after knocking off some of the other peoples "race" cars that use to talk smack.

Put up or shut up I say.
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You guys are forgetting the 3v GT comes with a 3.31 stock vs the 2.73 in the (most) 3.7.
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I have owned both.

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Good for you!.. (Clapping hands).


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Whats the difference 30 torque stock?

What does the 3v rev to vs. the 3.7?

285 for the 3.7

320 for the 4.6.

Don't remember off hand what it revs too, but the 3V does hit its peak TQ before the 3.7 does!..


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You guys are forgetting the 3v GT comes with a 3.31 stock vs the 2.73 in the (most) 3.7.

The transmissions in the 3.7 is also different than the 3V!.. And more in favor towards the 3.7!..


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You guys are forgetting the 3v GT comes with a 3.31 stock vs the 2.73 in the (most) 3.7.
Well mine was a 13 base PP car (originally 3.31), magazines had the premium PP car running 13.7's in the 1/4. A stock Magnum SRT8 runs 13.6 in the 1/4 (respectable for that heavy pig).

But to be fair my car isn't stock so if his 3v is stock that is very respectable vs, a Magnum SRT8 and why I blew the doors off one.

But to make a point a stock 3v V8 and a 3.7 premium PP car are very evenly matched. Drivers race. The 3.7 makes up for slightly less torque with more rpms and low geared trans, but you already know this.
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That's it? I'm not trying to be an *** but I put multiple car lengths and pulling on a guy I work with that owns a silver Magnum SRT8 (not sure if year matters) and he let out of it when he saw he couldn't catch me, so I'm sure it would have been worse if he didn't let out so early.

The little 3.7 V6 everyone use to make fun of when I started working there and they found out it wasn't a V8 is now well respected after knocking off some of the other peoples "race" cars that use to talk smack.

Put up or shut up I say.

The guy I ran against had your basic bolt Ons plus tuned!..


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The guy I ran against had your basic bolt Ons plus tuned!..


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So was this guy, I said "race cars" in my post. I raced another guys newer SVT lightening and his supercharge Cobra. The lightening was full bolt ons and tuned, I beat him by 1 car before we had to let off.

The Cobra whooped my ***, pulled away like I was cruising my car, later I found out it was pushing 600 whp. Yeah that was embarrassing to say the least.


That's the thing about all these cars we are talking about, You can get a pretty good ide stock for stock who's going to win. You start talking about modding and it depends on what was done. I would race a stock 3v any day of the week with my current car setup and know I would win. If they started talking about mods then I'm intrigued as to what my car would do and if I would win. That's what makes racing interesting, involved and fun.
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Really though hypothetically speaking
You just won a scratch off ticket for 40000 lol so you have enough to mod the hell out of a 3.7 or even mod up a 5.0 what would you do
Considering I'm in the process of getting forged internals, I'd probably take the money, and go all out on my car lol


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If I buy a V8 and you buy a V6 and we each get $15,000... I win... every time.
OK, let's be fair here. Start with nothing and each is given $40K, go out and buy your new car and mod it with what's left over. Now who wins? That would be a fair comparison.
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