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Old 05-10-2014, 10:36 PM   #1
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Gas type for my 2014 V6

I have a 2014 V6 with a bbk intake and pype bomb axel backs.. I recently bought a bama tuner, actually waiting for the package in the mail. I currently use 87 gas, with my mods do you think it's worth running anything better than a grade 87? And will running a higher grade do anything adversely to my engine? how would you guys recommend I switch from 87 to a higher grade fuel, Is there a process to switch fuels? Does running a higher grade fuel lower mpg? Or does the 91/93 race tune lower mpg? (A lot of questions I apologize, but it's the first time I tune any car and I want to learn everything I need to) I appreciate any responses and advice
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First off, what octane are your Bama tunes set to? That's the octane you need to run. You should actually get better gas mileage with a higher octane although the higher price offsets it. As far as switching, simply run your tank as low as you're comfortable then fill up with the new octane. Then drive a few miles. The fuel in your system will be close enough to the new octane at that point. After another tank or two, the old octane will be completely gone

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Higher octane is designed for higher compression engines. The high octane delays the ignition to ensure maximum compress. So if your new set up doesn't call for higher ignition l wouldn't use it. The BTU is the same in all fuel grades. I used higher octane once in a truck l owned and caused it to knock......so back to regular and the knock was gone.
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I use 93. It's been Dyno proven on these cars that running 93 octane as opposed to 87 increases horsepower and torque.. you're basically throwing power away by using lower octane fuel. Plus it's better for your engine.
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I use 93. It's been Dyno proven on these cars that running 93 octane as opposed to 87 increases horsepower and torque.. you're basically throwing power away by using lower octane fuel. Plus it's better for your engine.
+1. You r absolutely correct. If you want the most out of your car and you can squeeze that little extra, IMO worth it! Hell up here I'm paying 1.64$ a LITER for 94! My southern friends get MUCH better prices on premium fuel! When I was down visiting 2 weeks ago in Vermont I paid 4.01$ a gallon for premium fuel at shell (93) cost me 51$ from almost empty, that's ****ing great! That same fuel up here from nearly empty will cost close to 95$!

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93 hands down!
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93 not only made my car run better and faster, but I got measurably better mileage out of it, too. Averaged 1-2mpg better, not enough to fully pay for itself but there is value there!
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Here's the Myths and Facts....basically if its doesn't require it there's no advantage
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/gas...ane-myths.html
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Here's the Myths and Facts....basically if its doesn't require it there's no advantage
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/gas...ane-myths.html

What about adaptive timing?
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Well if the engines of the has been reworked and the compression ratio has increased by all means increase the Octane....but there's absolutely no advantage to increasing the octane just to get better gas mileage..or horsepower. There's tons of info out there backing this up. British Thermal Unit energy expelled out of the point of ignition is the same throughout all grades of fuel. The Higher Octane has more compressibility to it....better for high compression engines. Terrible for lower compression engines. So if you have supercharged....changed the Cam...please take advantage of hight Octane.
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This has been covered many times, our 3.7s computer will detect the higher octane being used and will advance timing automatically to produce more power. But our cars do not require high octane fuel just a minimum of 87. These are not the engines of years past where higher octane unless tuned for it provide no HP benefits. Not only is higher better for your engine you will gain HP without tuning. Here's a link that completely explains our 3.7s and shows how great a job ford has done!
http://v6mustangperformance.com/news...ine-explained/
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All I use is shell v-power 93 avg $3.75gallon. I've tested this on my wifes flex 3.5 also on road trips. The car performs and the gas mileage is better. Not that much more in cost per tank. Now I tried 100% non-ethanol 93 octane verses the shell v-power 93 octane and didn't see any difference.
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Where do you live tha t93 octane is $3.75?! I'm paying $4.20 in FL and thought we had a good rate, doh!
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Where do you live tha t93 octane is $3.75?! I'm paying $4.20 in FL and thought we had a good rate, doh!
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Fastford I appreciate that link! Man I reading all lol and I am really impressed with the mustang build. Thanks to everyone for your tips and advise! I plan on using 93 octane here once I empty my tank of my old cheap gas lol.. As for my tunes I plan on running 93 with my tunes because I am requesting tunes with the higher octane. The 93 is running at 3.65 so it's kinda of expensive but for my pony only the best
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Well put Fast Ford....technology is just amazing in the V6... Well done ford. I look forward to trying out some premium in my premium soon.
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+1 not only will you benefit from better fuel your engines will benefit also. Its a win win for a few extra dollars every fill up IMO.

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Yup, when I mentioned adaptive timing earlier I thought it might turn into an all out war. I'm glad it didn't.
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Me too..wasn't looking for a war....just understanding. I'm very impressed with the latest technology in this fabulous Ford
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Me too..wasn't looking for a war....just understanding. I'm very impressed with the latest technology in this fabulous Ford

The 5.0 does the same.
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The 5.0 does the same.
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Where do you live tha t93 octane is $3.75?! I'm paying $4.20 in FL and thought we had a good rate, doh!

93 has been around $3.60-$4.02 for the past month here in southern VA
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The 5.0 does the same.

Yep, only ran the dealer tank and 1 tank of 89(wasn't sure what the dealer used) been using 93 since, the 13-14 5.0 gets 412 HP using non premium fuel, and 420 using Premium, due to the timing and compression, etc. I wouldn't doubt that premium gets better mileage in the 3.7 and 5.0, but wouldn't know because I never ran anything below 93(premium here) for any real length of time.
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93 has been around $3.60-$4.02 for the past month here in southern VA
That's great! For premium if I convert it to US gallon I'm paying 6.21$ a gallon. Lol

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That's great! For premium if I convert it to US gallon I'm paying 6.21$ a gallon. Lol

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God, that's awful... Sorry man
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That's great! For premium if I convert it to US gallon I'm paying 6.21$ a gallon. Lol

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smdh I'm getting 93 for $3.74 a gallon in AL
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God, that's awful... Sorry man
Lol, yep god awful!

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I have a 2014 V6 with a bbk intake and pype bomb axel backs.. I recently bought a bama tuner, actually waiting for the package in the mail. I currently use 87 gas, with my mods do you think it's worth running anything better than a grade 87? And will running a higher grade do anything adversely to my engine? how would you guys recommend I switch from 87 to a higher grade fuel, Is there a process to switch fuels? Does running a higher grade fuel lower mpg? Or does the 91/93 race tune lower mpg? (A lot of questions I apologize, but it's the first time I tune any car and I want to learn everything I need to) I appreciate any responses and advice
If you choose a premium octane tune, I would highly recommend getting a 91octane tune. The reason I recommend a 91 octane tune is because there are regions in the US that fueling stations do not carry higher than 91 octane.

If you have a 93 octane tune, then your gonna need to fill up with 93 octane or higher. If the gas station only has 91 octane and your tune is for 93 octane, Houston we have a problem. Not good. In order to maximize your cars HP, the higher premium fuels will be needed.

Your pony will run perfectly fine on 87 octane just remember to load the 87 tune if you want to keep using the 87 octane fuel.
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I didn't think about that lol! In terms of always being able to find a gas station with 93 octane.. Luckily for me where I live at just about every corner you can find 93 but I wonder how it would be if I went to a diff city.. If I was to only find 87 I could simply change my tune from the 93 to 87? I luckily bought the tuner with 10 free slots for tunes lol so I plan to carry a few just incase.. With that said obviously if you could get a choice in fuels you guys would always choose the 93?
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I didn't think about that lol! In terms of always being able to find a gas station with 93 octane.. Luckily for me where I live at just about every corner you can find 93 but I wonder how it would be if I went to a diff city.. If I was to only find 87 I could simply change my tune from the 93 to 87? I luckily bought the tuner with 10 free slots for tunes lol so I plan to carry a few just incase.. With that said obviously if you could get a choice in fuels you guys would always choose the 93?
I fill up with 93 octane every place that has 93 in my area if not I use 91 octane. Lol
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If you choose a premium octane tune, I would highly recommend getting a 91octane tune. The reason I recommend a 91 octane tune is because there are regions in the US that fueling stations do not carry higher than 91 octane.

If you have a 93 octane tune, then your gonna need to fill up with 93 octane or higher. If the gas station only has 91 octane and your tune is for 93 octane, Houston we have a problem. Not good. In order to maximize your cars HP, the higher premium fuels will be needed.

Your pony will run perfectly fine on 87 octane just remember to load the 87 tune if you want to keep using the 87 octane fuel.

You'd really only need to worry about that on a trip, since you know you will always find 93 in your area if you already have it.

We have 93 all around me, but we have gone to certain areas in Wisconsin with our convertible club where 91 is the best you can find. Not a big deal for the Mustang since it's not tuned, but the '95 T/A is. I only have a 93 tune for that car, so sometimes on those trips I do end up with 91 in the tank, however, it's never a whole tank because eventually I run into a station with 93.

If your going to travel, either bring the tuner with you or just throw the 91 tune in the car before you leave so you don't have to change tunes on your trip and then have something goofy happen with it. Things always seem to happen at the most inopportune times.
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You'd really only need to worry about that on a trip, since you know you will always find 93 in your area if you already have it.

We have 93 all around me, but we have gone to certain areas in Wisconsin with our convertible club where 91 is the best you can find. Not a big deal for the Mustang since it's not tuned, but the '95 T/A is. I only have a 93 tune for that car, so sometimes on those trips I do end up with 91 in the tank, however, it's never a whole tank because eventually I run into a station with 93.

If your going to travel, either bring the tuner with you or just throw the 91 tune in the car before you leave so you don't have to change tunes on your trip and then have something goofy happen with it. Things always seem to happen at the most inopportune times.
Very true. Majority of the fueling stations around my area do carry 93 but I have seen some that for some reason only have 91 octane. For those who travel into other areas not near them , they may want to load up a 91 tune just to be safe or like you said, make sure one takes the performance tuner with. Lol! Always good to have a 91 tune in the arsenal just in case its needed.
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Very true. Majority of the fueling stations around my area do carry 93 but I have seen some that for some reason only have 91 octane. For those who travel into other areas not near them , they may want to load up a 91 tune just to be safe or like you said, make sure one takes the performance tuner with. Lol! Always good to have a 91 tune in the arsenal just in case its needed.

We have to run reformulated (up to 10% ethanol) gas in my area, however, the whole state isn't that way. Sometimes I find in my travels that the areas that only carry up to 91 are areas that don't require the reformulated blend.

Do you guys say fueling stations in Maryland? We say gas stations.
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We have to run reformulated (up to 10% ethanol) gas in my area, however, the whole state isn't that way. Sometimes I find in my travels that the areas that only carry up to 91 are areas that don't require the reformulated blend.

Do you guys say fueling stations in Maryland? We say gas stations.
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