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Old 05-21-2014, 09:23 PM   #1
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Mac ceramic shorties

They finally arrived today and I'll be doing the install tomorrow. The headers look great out the box. The welds are complete and the coating covers well. Here's a few pics.
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They finally arrived today and I'll be doing the install tomorrow. The headers look great out the box. The welds are complete and the coating covers well. Here's a few pics.
Nice, get plenty of rust penetrant lol. Although since yours is a `14 it likely won't have as much as my '11 did doing my longtubes

Those header bolts are a little goofy to get to, especially the lower ones.
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My car has 8100 miles on it so maybe I'll get lucky with the bolts lol. Yea I've been reading post about thoses bottom bolts on the passenger side being tough to get.
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Very cool, I just saw those on AM the other day and want to try and get them while they are on sale.
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Oh Lord those manifolds look rough lol get at them with a dremel and smooth it out. Looks scary lol

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They look sharp out of the box and with the ceramic coating, I'm sure they will look good under the hood for years to come. Let us know how they work out when you have them installed. Best of luck!

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They look great good luck and keep us posted.
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Well they're installed. The fitment is great and all of the bolts are easy to get to. Each header took around 20-30 minutes to install. They look, sound, and perform great. Excellent purchase, my buddy is going to let me use his go pro for some videos. Here's a couple of pics. Thats my buddies car 08gt he came by to cheer me on.
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Lookin good. Did your butt dyno detect any change in performance?
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So when you race him, what is the outcome?
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Lookin good. Did your butt dyno detect any change in performance?
At first I was worried, the car felt sluggish. I hit the interstate and put a few miles on it an the started feeling better. I guess having the battery disconnected affected it. After 20 minutes of driving, I ran it through the gears and there is a decent increase with them. The car revs better thru the rpm range and feels stronger. My stock mufflers where do quiet with the headers that I put my muffler deletes back on. My car sounds and performs great with this combo. The exhaust is smoother and the drone has been reduced drastically. My buddy with the 08gt was impressed.
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So when you race him, what is the outcome?
We haven't raced due to him sporting a vortec supercharger. He did admit mod for mod without the sc it would be close.
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They look sharp out of the box and with the ceramic coating, I'm sure they will look good under the hood for years to come. Let us know how they work out when you have them installed. Best of luck!

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They worked our great. I'm trying to upload some pics on your site but it's not allowing me to go to my gallery and select them
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20-30 mins each? unless you had a lift, what magic tools were you using?
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20-30 mins each? unless you had a lift, what magic tools were you using?
Once the manifolds where removed, the headers where easy to install. All of the header bolts can be reached from the top using a variety of tools. I used 3/8 ratchet, 13mm gear wrench, 13mm standard craftsman wrench. The collectors lined up to the mid pipe perfectly. Oh and just used my walmart car ramps to reach the collect bolts. This was a very easy install.
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Sweet baby rays thank you for posting this! My mind has been made up now. By looking at the design of the tubes it looked easier to install then the bbk. But this confirms it!
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I was through the install. It was relatively easy. The car was impressive with them. Crazy how much room you had to work with. Quick car. Would diffently upset a few people if they pulled up next to at the track.
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I'm glad to hear it was relatively easy. It seems with the different tube design it makes accessing the bolts easier than the BBK design.
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I;m glad to here it was relatively easy. It seems with the different tube design it makes accessing the bolts easier than the BBK design.
Yes. lol. I did BBK longtubes so they were a bit different and I needed a lift but the bolt pattern was very tricky to get around.
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Do you have a video of the exhaust note with the headers installed
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Do you have a video of the exhaust note with the headers installed?
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Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering if these Mac shorties sound anyway different than bbk? Now I under it all depends on what other supporting mods you have, but did they really made your exhaust note deeper n tiny bit louder?

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Do you have a video of the exhaust note with the headers installed
I made one with the muffler deletes on but am having problems getting it to upload.
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Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering if these Mac shorties sound anyway different than bbk? Now I under it all depends on what other supporting mods you have, but did they really made your exhaust note deeper n tiny bit louder?

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Actually with the completely stock midpipe and axleback with just headers it is quieter. Evening driving around. When at wot or reving the exhaust note is deeper and the stock axlebacks have a good tone. I think they sound a lil different but it's hard to tell by videos.
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Actually with the completely stock midpipe and axleback with just headers it is quieter. Evening driving around. When at wot or reving the exhaust note is deeper and the stock axlebacks have a good tone. I think they sound a lil different but it's hard to tell by videos.
Sweet! I actually have GT500 axle backs (single tip), they sound good under WOT but yet they're little quite for my taste under normal driving. A friend of mine has BBK shorties with quad tips, **** his car sounds super awesome at start up and during cruising around.

One more question though: you said they're definitely quiter with axlebacks, by that do you mean as compared to BBK shorties or just in general?

I don't mind the longer installation time for BBK if it turns out they're going to be 'comparatively' louder/deeper than macs.

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Sweet! I actually have GT500 axle backs (single tip), they sound good under WOT but yet they're little quite for my taste under normal driving. A friend of mine has BBK shorties with quad tips, **** his car sounds super awesome at start up and during cruising around.

One more question though: you said they're definitely quiter with axlebacks, by that do you mean as compared to BBK shorties or just in general?

I don't mind the longer installation time for BBK if it turns out they're going to be 'comparatively' louder/deeper than macs.

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The macs are quieter than my factory manifolds with the stock axlebacks. I put the magnaflow deletes back on and it sounds really good and loud. The headers definitely made the exhaust sound better. The headers changed the sound of the engine when your at 3500-6900rpms it has more of a smooth note but is louder under acceleration. I removed my magnaflow deletes again due to the loudness. You won't be disappointed with the Macs.
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Update on the headers, after 500 miles on them everything is still great. The coating looks good and the bolts are good and tight. This is the only performance mod on my car and has definitely increased the hp. I really noticed it today in and out of traffic and then getting onto the on ramp for the interstate. The headers have a good increase through the entire rpm band. The 2.73 gears don't feel as bad anymore. Its not a dragster but does run and sound better.
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Quick question bro, did you reuse the stock gasket?

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Quick question bro, did you reuse the stock gasket?

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Yes I used the stock manifold bolts and gasket. The only hardware I used was the new collector bolts that came with the headers.
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Do you need to disconnect the battery to install the headers?
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Do you need to disconnect the battery to install the headers?
Yes, I disconnected the battery and removed it from the car. This will give you all the space you need to install the passenger side header.
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Yes-Yes_yes_yes

Do disconnect the battery when doing anything like this. On one of these forums a while back someone accidentally shorted out the starter and when it did it also fried the CPU. I'm trying to find the post but can't remember which forum it was on.
Disconnecting the battery is only one nut to unscrew and well worth the thirty seconds to do it.
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Good to hear that the install went well. I have been hesitant because I have heard people having issues with the gaskets and the passenger side bolts. Your experience is pushing me towards putting these on mine as well!
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