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Old 06-05-2014, 12:57 AM   #1
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Talking Next part. For serious power. Need opinions

Hey fellas Butsweat here back at it again for the mod stretch. My car is a 2014 3.7 mustang and i've enjoyed it so far. My mods are the Bama 93 Race Tune, Intake, and Gears. I'm looking to get the rest of my bolt ons (73 BBK ThrottleBody, Some Headers, Offroad Xpipe, and maybe a nice short throw, exhaust maybe down the road) but my question here fellas is what to shoot for in the interest of serious power. I've done loops trying to make a decision on what I want to get but I cant seem to make up my mind so here I come looking for yalls opinion. I first went with the Nitrous Kit which i BOUGHT and never put in lol (because I was being a scared vagina ill admit that) BUT for the noble cause of not breaking my car. I had gotten the whole kit and was gunna run somewhere between 100-150 shot. I had all the safety precautions and a solid man to put it in for me with years of experience in mustangs, and decided not to do it. My second option is to save up a little bit more $$ and go for the procharger. This idea i was very fond of because of longevity. I felt the Nitrous Kit would take to much of a toll on my bottom end thus shortening the lifespan of my vehicle. My third option which would cost just about 6000-7000$ just like the procharger would be the N/A build. Consisting of Camshafts, A Boar and stroke for 4.0 liter and go that route. All in all they all will generate the same number of gains except for maybe the procharger cz i can boost the psi up and make it a monster thus calling for internals I would suspect (same for nitrous going above 150). My goal is to make my car a dope sleeper and catch up with my buddies. My buddies right now have a c6 Vette, a new 5.0(which he got to spite me lol) and recently added to the crew a '15 STI (ew jap rocket). Work is going to be needed fellas the question is what would U DO?!

Current Mods of my Vehicle again:

93 Bama Race tune (tunes for life package)
Intake (self made if your really interested ill tell ya lol)
and 3.73 Gears.
6 Speed Manual

Thanks guys hope to hear some gnarley advice
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If you go forced induction make sure you check out the turbo option before pulling the trigger on a procharger.

Limitless performance and fabrication is making a kit for our car. Final numbers should be out any time now. I believe the kits 5k or close to it. Much more torque and potential from that than the procharger.

No one that I have heard of has done the stroker kit, so cost vs power is questionable. I'd stay away from that. Plus boost would be fun!

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You already have the nitrous kit, as long as it's a wet kit and you have all the supporting hardware, stop being a gina and spray that thing.
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If you've already sold the nitrous kit, than I think your best bet is a Procharger, by far. The Procharger will give you the most power and the power will be available all of the time. Down the road, if you decide to build the shorter block, you can run even more boost with the Procharger.

That being said, if you still have the nitrous system I would just use that. As long as you purchase all of the safety features (window switch, WOT switch, progressive controller, bottle heater, etc.), than the engine is seeing no more stress than it would with a supercharger. In fact, the engine would be seeing less stress with a 100shot of nitrous.

Lastly, keep in mind if you're going to be drag racing often and have some type of power adder, you'll need a stronger clutch sooner or later. The stock clutch just does not like to be slipped in these cars! It doesn't take much to glaze them over.

Hope this info helps you out man. Let me know if I can assist you with anything else!

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Old 06-05-2014, 01:22 PM   #5
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all valued opinions, so it looks like my options now are brought down to the nitrous application and the procharger. if it would faster for me to buy the nitrous application again but i feel saving for the supercharger would be more beneficial down the road, especially not having to refill that at all vs the nitrous. also about the turbo option i looked into that as well and i was actually told something about rear mount turbos for my car but i dont know if those exist for the 3.7 mustang, let me know what u guys think on that matter
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You could buy a nitrous setup, and re-fill the bottle every week for almost an entire year and still be just under the cost of a forced induction setup, while making more power.

When not spraying, your car will run exactly as it did before nitrous. It's also much easier to deal with in states that require emissions testing.

BTW, a 10lb bottle will usually last 5 - 8 passes at the track on a 150 shot at 1050 psi. Drop down to 900 psi and you will put down less power but you will be able to make another pass or three. Go with a 100 shot, and you could be fine for maybe 12 - 15 full passes.
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Ish do u have nitrous in your mustang? i ask because it seems like you have a little experience in this topic
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Not on the Mustang yet .. I do have it on my Z28, been running it for years. It's the best power adder out there.

The 14 3.7 is all stock for now. I will be running a 150 shot on it sometime.
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Next part. For serious power. Need opinions

How much do you think it costs to do nitrous the right/safe way? Install, tuning, the kit it's self, that short of stuff?
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How much do you think it costs to do nitrous the right/safe way? Install, tuning, the kit it's self, that short of stuff?
$1500 give or take
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And what would the torque gains be from a 100 shot?
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Around $1000 - $2000 depending on what you get.

This is what I have my eye on - 2011-2014 3.7L V6 Mustang Hard-line Plate System - EFI Wet Nitrous Systems

This package, has a bottle heater, nitrous pressure gauge, fuel pressure safety switch, blow down tube and purge system - Brand X Stage 2 Accessory Package for 4AN Systems - Accessory Packages - Nitrous Accessories

I'm undecided on the window switch, I will go with something digital.
This is what I have in my Z28 - MSD Ignition 8956 MSD RPM Activated Switches - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS
Likely set the window switch for 3500 - 6500 rpm.

Then some remote bottle opener since I plan on installing the tank in the trunk.

Then one stage cooler spark plugs.

So price wise, $700 + $450 + $150 + $150 + $50 = $1500.

So just say around $1500 with the spark plugs, maybe just a little more.

Bama and other tuners should be able to set you up on a 100 - 125 shot easily which would be included in their tunes for life, for a 150 shot or higher, a custom dyno tune will be needed, that will run $400 - $600.

So in all, for a 150 shot, around $1900 - $2200, for a 100 shot, around $1500. Assuming you do your own work.
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And what would the torque gains be from a 100 shot?
Typically on a wet shot that is rated at the wheels, you will gain around 50% more torque than horsepower.

So a 100 shot would add around 100 rwhp and 150 rwtq.

A 150 shot would be around 150 rwhp and 225 rwtq.



There are also torque spikes or nitrous spikes that can make huge torque numbers very briefly.

One of my friends forgot to purge his 6.0 GTO on the dyno, hit the spray (150 shot) and hit like 780 rwtq. It typically put down around 700 rwtq.
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Honestly, for the money you're looking at investing, you could sell and trade up to a 5.0!
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Honestly, for the money you're looking at investing, you could sell and trade up to a 5.0!
A good point.

If you bought a 3.7 to invest $6,000 - $7,000 in, you bought the wrong car.

Spending $2,000 - $4,000 on the other hand, makes a lot more sense.
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A good point.

If you bought a 3.7 to invest $6,000 - $7,000 in, you bought the wrong car.

Spending $2,000 - $4,000 on the other hand, makes a lot more sense.
+10! Yet there will be people spending more than that just for the 'uniqueness' factor.

Much like everyone else out there, I wanna add: headers, exhaust, gears, MGW shifter, lower springs and mods to support 1.5'+ drop, sick sound system, exterior accessories etc. Easy $6-7K including labor.

Now should I stick with my V6 or use that cash towards a GT, only summer 2015 will tell lol

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all valued opinions, so it looks like my options now are brought down to the nitrous application and the procharger. if it would faster for me to buy the nitrous application again but i feel saving for the supercharger would be more beneficial down the road, especially not having to refill that at all vs the nitrous. also about the turbo option i looked into that as well and i was actually told something about rear mount turbos for my car but i dont know if those exist for the 3.7 mustang, let me know what u guys think on that matter
If you do decide to buy another NX nitrous kit again, I suggest making things easier on yourself and purchasing the NOS Progressive Mini Controller. It has a lot more features than most units do. The NOS Controller has a Window Switch, WOT Switch, and Progressive Control, all in one. Plus, the Progressive feature is even safer for your engine, as it prevents lean spikes and abrupt changes in piston speed.

Of course, you should also use a bottle heater with an automatic pressure switch. With all of those safety features, you'll be perfectly fine to spray nitrous on a regular basis!

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