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Old 06-25-2014, 09:18 AM   #1
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more mods done :)

Got my 2013 V6 looking/feeling pretty good.. my list so far:

modern billet grilles (black)
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planning on ordering a one piece drive shaft soon as my next mod.... but after that what other bolt ons could i go for to increase performance gains? i know there are plenty to do, but don't want to waste money on things that won't show gains.... TIA!
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Got my 2013 V6 looking/feeling pretty good.. my list so far:

modern billet grilles (black)
side markers tinted
SR Performance lowering springs
SR adjustable panhard bar
window tint
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plastidipped wheels
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planning on ordering a one piece drive shaft soon as my next mod.... but after that what other bolt ons could i go for to increase performance gains? i know there are plenty to do, but don't want to waste money on things that won't show gains.... TIA!
An $800+ driveshaft won't show any gains. Get some ceramic shorty headers and a new x-pipe. That will add about 20+ HP/TQ or more.
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An $800+ driveshaft won't show any gains. Get some ceramic shorty headers and a new x-pipe. That will add about 20+ HP/TQ or more.
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Im not trying to start a debate but I have to agree with not getting a drive shaft. Unless of course youre drag racing with it. The stock DS is perfectly fine for a relatively stock DD. Unless youre going to boost it some how I think its a waste of money. Of course we have our own opinions but thats mine.

With 800.00 you can do a lot more that you would probably get more enjoyment from.
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An $800+ driveshaft won't show any gains. Get some ceramic shorty headers and a new x-pipe. That will add about 20+ HP/TQ or more.
The 1 piece ds will yield better throttle response and acceleration being that it reduces rotational mass. Might even get you a couple mpgs more.
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An $800+ driveshaft won't show any gains. Get some ceramic shorty headers and a new x-pipe. That will add about 20+ HP/TQ or more.
the $800+ driveshaft will allow me to actually use the HP gains without blowing up the current one.... thanks....
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The 1 piece ds will yield better throttle response and acceleration being that it reduces the rotational mass by about 15 or 20 lbs.
and this...

the driveshaft is being bought guys... i'm asking for next mods up. not worried about saving the $800 to use elsewhere.
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I have no idea what I'm talking about? Really? OP said he wants gains. What will give him better gains, a driveshaft or ceramic headers and an OR x-pipe. Ceramic shorty headers, take MAC for example, plus let's say any off-road x pipe, will give you around 20HP/TQ with a 93 octane tune. That is fact. Maybe it will give you 18 or 19, maybe it will give you 22, but it will give you a +20HP/TQ peak on the RPM band. Is that not more HP/TQ than a driveshaft will give you? Last time I checked you don't stick a driveshaft through your engine to make your car go faster, it strengthens and solidifies your car when it reaches higher speeds/under more stress. I don't know why you felt the need to be rude, or whatever your issue is with my comment, but when you say "I have no clue what I'm talking about" I really don't know what YOU are talking about.
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the shorty headers and x pipe might be something i'd like to consider.. looking on AM.. what's the difference between the ceramic tuned length shorty headers and the ceramic shorty headers?
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What about gears?
another good idea. what gears would be good for my car? still going to be a DD for now...
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The driveshaft itself will not give you direct gains. Yes you can get more results out of what you have, but I was merely replying to what you asked about getting more gains. I would not be worried about your car blowing up without the new driveshaft unless you are planning on speeding around on the streets at 130MPH (illegal) or taking it to the track every weekend.
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I have no idea what I'm talking about? Really? OP said he wants gains. What will give him better gains, a driveshaft or ceramic headers and an OR x-pipe. Ceramic shorty headers, take MAC for example, plus let's say any off-road x pipe, will give you around 20HP/TQ with a 93 octane tune. That is fact. Maybe it will give you 18 or 19, maybe it will give you 22, but it will give you a +20HP/TQ peak on the RPM band. Is that not more HP/TQ than a driveshaft will give you? Last time I checked you don't stick a driveshaft through your engine to make your car go faster, it strengthens and solidifies your car when it reaches higher speeds/under more stress. I don't know why you felt the need to be rude, or whatever your issue is with my comment, but when you say "I have no clue what I'm talking about" I really don't know what YOU are talking about.
Again as I said above. A driveshaft will make you faster bud. Ever heard of rotational mass?

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And your right you don't stick a driveshaft " through your engine"

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another good idea. what gears would be good for my car? still going to be a DD for now...
3.73 gears are good if you DD. Big boost but you won't lose a lot of MPG. 4.1 are very aggressive, only get these if you have an auto and want some semblance of being able to DD it, you will lose up to 5 MPG or more with these however. Most people go with the 3.73 and love them. If you have the stock 2.7's they will blow your world.
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3.73 gears are good if you DD. Big boost but you won't lose a lot of MPG. 4.1 are very aggressive, only get these if you have an auto and want some semblance of being able to DD it, you will lose up to 5 MPG or more with these however. Most people go with the 3.73 and love them. If you have the stock 2.7's they will blow your world.
yes i'm on the stock 2.73s. might have to look into the 3.73s for sure. any ballpark on price for install on these?
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3.73 gears are good if you DD. Big boost but you won't lose a lot of MPG. 4.1 are very aggressive, only get these if you have an auto and want some semblance of being able to DD it, you will lose up to 5 MPG or more with these however. Most people go with the 3.73 and love them. If you have the stock 2.7's they will blow your world.
Uh oh. Expect another comment about recommending 4.10s on an auto. From what I have heard the highest you would want to go for gears on an auto is 3.31's
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The driveshaft itself will not give you direct gains. Yes you can get more results out of what you have, but I was merely replying to what you asked about getting more gains. I would not be worried about your car blowing up without the new driveshaft unless you are planning on speeding around on the streets at 130MPH (illegal) or taking it to the track every weekend.
i want to have it for when i do go to the track, which may not be often, but i'd much rather be safe then sorry. i don't trust this driveshaft....
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Again as I said above. A driveshaft will make you faster bud. Ever heard of rotational mass?

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Have you ever heard of not being rude for no reason? Telling someone not to give advice because they have no idea what they are talking about because they said a header/OR x-pipe combo will be much better than a new driveshaft on a tuned DD is ridiculous. Your opinion may be different than mine, but it doesn't mean that I am wrong. That is the opinion that myself and many others hold on this forum. If you don't like it, good, it is not your opinion. You can put a driveshaft on, I will gladly put headers and an OR x-pipe on and love the growl and boost it gives my car, you can enjoy the extra safety if you're going 120 MPH+. Learn to not bash people for having different idea's opinions, it will make life much more enjoyable.
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yes i'm on the stock 2.73s. might have to look into the 3.73s for sure. any ballpark on price for install on these?
Gears will be about $200 or so , maybe a little under, with the install kit I believe, and install with Royal Purple is anywhere from $350-$500, depending on your location, mechanic, etc.
EDIT: With the full install kit and options on AM it is $400. I haven't installed gears so I'm not sure if they are all necessary or not.
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Gears will be about $200 or so , maybe a little under, with the install kit I believe, and install with Royal Purple is anywhere from $350-$500, depending on your location, mechanic, etc.
EDIT: With the full install kit and options on AM it is $400. I haven't installed gears so I'm not sure if they are all necessary or not.
can someone chime in on this? is it necessary?
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can someone chime in on this? is it necessary?

Is what necessary?
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Gears will be about $200 or so , maybe a little under, with the install kit I believe, and install with Royal Purple is anywhere from $350-$500, depending on your location, mechanic, etc.
EDIT: With the full install kit and options on AM it is $400. I haven't installed gears so I'm not sure if they are all necessary or not.
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I was talking to a shop about a gear install and he said he wouldnt even do the job with out a full rebuild kit. My car only has 2000 miles on it and he still would replace everything. So to answer your question I would say yes its necessary.
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I was talking to a shop about a gear install and he said he wouldnt even do the job with out a full rebuild kit. My car only has 2000 miles on it and he still would replace everything. So to answer your question I would say yes its necessary.
thanks. this is the first time i mod a car past very basic stuff, so i'm a newb
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thanks. this is the first time i mod a car past very basic stuff, so i'm a newb
Thats cool. Swapping out gears is a mod most people will never do. Its expensive and not some thing you can do by yourself. I mean you can, but its a very technical job and if not done right you will have a grenade in your rear diff.

Just keep this in mind since your new at this, always do it right the first time. You may not need some parts because yours are still good, but since youre doing such a big job you might as well just do it all.
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Thats cool. Swapping out gears is a mod most people will never do. Its expensive and not some thing you can do by yourself. I mean you can, but its a very technical job and if not done right you will have a grenade in your rear diff.

Just keep this in mind since your new at this, always do it right the first time. You may not need some parts because yours are still good, but since youre doing such a big job you might as well just do it all.
i couldn't agree more. thank you for the good advice.
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You've got a good mod list going so far. What are you looking for? For high RPM gains look at long tube headers or even just replacing the stock x pipe. This will be very loud with your Roush exhaust however, so I wouldn't recommend it. For low to midrange gains, shorty headers are pretty awesome.

Gears are great if you have someone who does good work. Simple as that. If you need your MPG's as high as possible, go 3.31. 3.73 otherwise, 4.10's are the best all out gear for the auto performance-wise but you'll be turning 3000rpm going 80 down the highway.
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You've got a good mod list going so far. What are you looking for? For high RPM gains look at long tube headers or even just replacing the stock x pipe. This will be very loud with your Roush exhaust however, so I wouldn't recommend it. For low to midrange gains, shorty headers are pretty awesome.

Gears are great if you have someone who does good work. Simple as that. If you need your MPG's as high as possible, go 3.31. 3.73 otherwise, 4.10's are the best all out gear for the auto performance-wise but you'll be turning 3000rpm going 80 down the highway.
def looking for lower end gain. MPG not to much of an issue, but i think the 3.73s would be the way i'd want to go. the 4.10s seem a bit over kill for a DD? and i'm sure she would see some highway travel on vacations and such... i'd hate to have my engine screaming at 3k the whole way... whats the RPM range with the 3.73s?
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def looking for lower end gain. MPG not to much of an issue, but i think the 3.73s would be the way i'd want to go. the 4.10s seem a bit over kill for a DD? and i'm sure she would see some highway travel on vacations and such... i'd hate to have my engine screaming at 3k the whole way... whats the RPM range with the 3.73s?

3.73s if u got manual
4.10s if auto

If ur goin with gears, might as well go for a driveshaft as well. Itll help you really put the power to the pavement, you'll be launching like a rocket!
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3.73s if u got manual
4.10s if auto

If ur goin with gears, might as well go for a driveshaft as well. Itll help you really put the power to the pavement, you'll be launching like a rocket!
the driveshaft is already on the list, before gears.. you missed the fun convo regarding the driveshaft. lol
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the driveshaft is already on the list, before gears.. you missed the fun convo regarding the driveshaft. lol

Lol nah i caught it just throwin my .02 in
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