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Old 07-11-2014, 10:26 PM   #71
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So many people who don't have the new 5.0 get so but hurt when they are mentioned. Enjoy what you have. Who cares who has done what and who knows how to do what. I will say one thing. If rapinator has something to say, he is the one I would listen to because just being around on this forum, you can tell which people know their stuff and he is one of them, just like deerslayer.Mod what you have and don't worry about what you don't.
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The V8 was brought in to this post by a V6 owner. saying that since this V6 is impressive the V8's are not needed? That is what started the whole V6/V8 arguing.

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The V8 was brought in to this post by a V6 owner. saying that since this V6 is impressive the V8's are not needed? That is what started the whole V6/V8 arguing.

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Good Lord people lol.. now Idk about yall but I can't wait till this turbo comes to market

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Yes, back on track please. I created this thread to share someone's accomplishment in a 3.7, not to compare it to V8s past and present to try to make it seem better than them. All Mustangs can be fun and fast, simple as that.

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I quoted you on a couple things but added Smurf stang in the quote too. Go back and read it. You will see where i state his name in my post on your quote. I'm using the iPhone and can not do multiple quotes in one posting. It's quicker to do it the way I did than have a ton of post on here. Sorry you got confused.


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3.7 DOHC & tube

It may just be wishful thinking but, I just took delivery of a 2014 DIB 3.7 & it seems like it's faster than my 2012 3.7. I put an Airaid "tube" on it two days ago & that got me 2 mpg better mileage on the Hwy. These 3.7 DOHC ponies continue to amaze!
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So Smurf you are saying I need a Foxbody to go fast? PLEEEEEASE!!! Bwahahaha!!! Do you know what the fastest quarter mile 5.0L is in the world? That's right a coyote. It is a built. TT 5.0L with 2138hp runs 7 seconds at over 200 mph. So you can take that foxbody and stick it up your @$$!!! The coyote can easily handle up to 600rwhp close to 700-750 at the crank before motor work is needed. No previous GT motor can do that. You need to build up the old 5.0L and stroke them to make big power. I could drop a mere $2000 and be in the low to mid 11's without losing any sleep. The coyote has the most potential out of any 5.0L. excluding the Boss of course.

FYI the new 5.0L are a much better daily driver you can build to go really fast. Rides much better than a foxbody. Also a lot of fast foxbodies have LS motor in them. Who wants a chevy powered foxbody? Not me!!!


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V6 guys if you're going to slam a V8 what do you expect in return??? Takes one to start a war.


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I never slammed V-8s, I just said I never really liked them. As an Import guy who drives on the street they just don't do much for me. Yes, I have owned a few. I want Ford to sell whatever helps them make a profit and stay in business.
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I sure don't agree with that at all

V8's are needed for those that want them. The V6 is a great engine but not for everyone. I personally love my 3.7 V6 Cyclone engine.
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I also like the V8 but just don't need it for my style of driving. Both engines are really great and it gives a choice. One is not "BETTER" then the other but totally different.
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OK guys, if you want to continue to bash each other please use the P.M option.

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I just watched that video again and those guys certainly deserve some respect for what they achieved.
Nobody here can, honestly, deny that a lot of hard work and ingenuity went into that car.
If we all had the same taste in cars, it would be pretty boring out on the roads. In fact, it might resemble 1970 Soviet Union somewhat.
Everyone better get used to the small displacement turbo's because, as stated earlier, in a year, we'll be having the new Eco-boost forum on here.
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V8 / V6 they both have there place some prefer the V6 for better fuel economy
etc... to each his own I however prefer my V8 , nothing beats the sound
and rumble of a V8 , but that's just my 2 c.
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The v6 still has better internals from the factory except for the pistons. The 5.0 is going to be faster because of its cams, 2 extra cylinders, and displacement of course. The 5.0 is an awesome car to drive, but on a track due to weight distribution, I would prefer a tuned and moded v6. Better balance and on a curvy track......not many places to open up that v8. The 0-100 times aren't far enough apart to guarantee a definite diatonic of a 5.0 over the v6. hopefully I made a good example of how each car has its own potential.

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The v6 still has better internals from the factory except for the pistons. The 5.0 is going to be faster because of its cams, 2 extra cylinders, and displacement of course. The 5.0 is an awesome car to drive, but on a track due to weight distribution, I would prefer a tuned and moded v6. Better balance and on a curvy track......not many places to open up that v8. The 0-100 times aren't far enough apart to guarantee a definite diatonic of a 5.0 over the v6. hopefully I made a good example of how each car has its own potential.

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The weakest part of the 5.0 is the pistons. So next please.

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I meant the pistons of the v6. They are cast. I am saying the 5.0 internals are not as good.

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I meant the pistons of the v6. They are cast. I am saying the 5.0 internals are not as good.

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The crank in the 5.0 is good for 1500. The pistons are the weak link. Really thin ring glands

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And yes the pistons as well as other parts are weak on the 5.0. The v6 has better internals BESIDES it's pistons which blow as well.

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The stock 5.0 internals can handle 600. My stock pistons let go at 611

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Perfect example because the 3.7 pistons are the only part that has failed builders at 600whp. Soooo the capabilities of both engines are very equal in terms of capability. No clue why ford used ****ty pistons on the 3.7. Or non forged rods and pistons on the 5.0. Give me a 500 whp v6 and the weight difference and the distribution give it the advantage for track driving. The 5.0 is a beast on a drag or in a straight line though

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The stock 5.0 internals can handle 600. My stock pistons let go at 611

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Did your pistons let go when you car was on dyno? Or some other scenario? I'm curious since I've seen a few KB/Vortex blown cars putting 640 to the wheels, safely, as claimed. I might be wrong, but I guess these KB numbers are also posted on their website? Now how long you can safely run such high numbers on a stock motor is a debatebale question, with tons of variables.

Reason I ask about safe hp range of 5.0 is cuz im planning on getting one next year, and ultimately going FI route with it.

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I have seen the same numbers. I don't own a 5.0 but have done lots of research and worked on my cousins alot. I have a 3.7 and both engines tend to have piston failure around 600ish whp. If your going fi do it right and get forged internals. You will be able to run more boost and your engine with last longer.

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I have seen the same numbers. I don't own a 5.0 but have done lots of research and worked on my cousins alot. I have a 3.7 and both engines tend to have piston failure around 600ish whp. If your going fi do it right and get forged internals. You will be able to run more boost and your engine with last longer.

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As with most any engine forge it if you want massive Hp otherwise you are on borrowed time , as I have said before 550 HP for the 5.0 is about the max
you can push through it safely even at that level there are no guarantees but it's a fairly safe number.

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I saw another forum where a guy with a v6 blew his at 600. Same way too, piston failed. Everything else was fine

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I have seen the same numbers. I don't own a 5.0 but have done lots of research and worked on my cousins alot. I have a 3.7 and both engines tend to have piston failure around 600ish whp. If your going fi do it right and get forged internals. You will be able to run more boost and your engine with last longer.

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You're absolutely right about having forged internals but practically speaking, anything with >700rwhp would be too quick for a DD/street car in my opinion. I don't think you would even get into 3rd gear on city roads where speed limits are 30-40mph lol.

I guess a KB with stock motor would be more than enough for an average city Joe like me, who wouldn't see track more than couple times a season. Was just wondering about the power limits without going forged way

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Ps: not to jack this thread (even though I already have lol), a forged build including labor and parts would take at least $4-5K right. Imo, it be a better choice to go with an aluminator instead (~8k?), by trading in/selling your stock 5.0 for about $3500-4500 (fair price for a used engine?). This way you would have everything fresh and new for your FI setup, including lower compression ratio for higher boost.

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Ps: not to jack this thread (even though I already have lol), a forged build including labor and parts would take at least $4-5K right. Imo, it be a better choice to go with an aluminator instead (~8k?), by trading in/selling your stock 5.0 for about $3500-4500 (fair price for a used engine?). This way you would have everything fresh and new for your FI setup, including lower compression ratio for higher boost.

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Yup an aluminator would be a good choice for high HP applications. Forging is not cheap upgrading to a better motor would eliminate this.
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Usually you should show a little restraint and respect when in the other guys house. This is the 2011-2014 V6 section, not the V8 section, which would have been a different ball game. Viking fans don't usually go to Green Bay and start trash talking the Packers in a Packer bar.. And if you already know how good something is, no need to defend it. Those that whine the most about being better, are usually the ones that wish what they have could do better. V6 fans come here to see the latest that's happening in the V6 world, and if that means at times better stuff than some V8's, so what, it's their section to gloat in.
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When I priced them out with the best countrywide prices I could find on either the base or GT with ONLY an auto, there was an $8300 difference (plus 531 extra sales tax). So I have close to 9 grand to play with.

Already got GT wheels/tires take offs $900
(keep stock wheels /tires for winter).

Other mods.

Turbo kit-$5400 (claim of trapping over 120 MPH)
Tune-$600
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GT front rotors/caliper brackets -$300ish (guessing)

Besides the cheaper price of the V6, I did not want another rough riding car (have two already), so I'd keep the V6 springs and struts. And this thing would be a bit of a sleeper. Downside is no warantee to V6 build above, but the drivetrain is pretty stout and I think you would still keep warantee on things like AC or electrical problems.

Of course you could make the GT faster with mods and ultimate 10/10'ths handlling would probably go to the GT, but a lot more money overall too.
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Thats crazy. Wish they would do that to mine.. for free lol
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