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Old 10-05-2014, 08:19 AM   #141
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Yes, besides tune and gears porting the intakes was the next best performance mod. Definite increases in the mid to upper rpm range. Unlike the 5.0s who have the Boss and Ford Racing Manifolds to choose from porting is the closest thing available for the V6.
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Yes, besides tune and gears porting the intakes was the next best performance mod. Definite increases in the mid to upper rpm range. Unlike the 5.0s who have the Boss and Ford Racing Manifolds to choose from porting is the closest thing available for the V6.
I'm assuming you have a custom tune?

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Yeah, MPT. Did some data logging with them to get everything dailed in.
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I re-read instructions to put GT throttle body on our V6. However, for a DYI noob like me, it be really helpful if someone could post pictures of their install? - more so the fins that need to be taken out, and things that need to be shaved off. What tools did you use for this etc. Much appreciated
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I re-read instructions to put GT throttle body on our V6. However, for a DYI noob like me, it be really helpful if someone could post pictures of their install? - more so the fins that need to be taken out, and things that need to be shaved off. What tools did you use for this etc. Much appreciated
+1! Oh and Bazinga the fins are literally right there once you remove the TB. 4 bolts and then POP! it's off. Although this would be a perfect opportunity for someone to make some money. Get a couple GT TB, drill out the holes to get them to fit and charge for labor. You can do a core charge if anyone has a TB already they can send it or just order straight out.
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Some person was selling adapter plates so you didn't have to modify the new throttle body, I don't remember where it was.

But for those fins, a simple dremel tool or even a manual file should work fine. I'd probably put some tape or something so the shavings don't fall into the intake manifold though, especially if you're leaving it on the car.

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The guy with the adapter plate was selling it and a throttle body for 400. Not worth it. Plus the adapter plate pushes the intake causing a tight fit. Just get a gt throttle body on ebay for 50-100$ make a template from the stock throttle body and mark the hokes

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Some person was selling adapter plates so you didn't have to modify the new throttle body, I don't remember where it was.

But for those fins, a simple dremel tool or even a manual file should work fine. I'd probably put some tape or something so the shavings don't fall into the intake manifold though, especially if you're leaving it on the car.

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Oh for sure. I used a rag. shoved it down my manifold with a tie so i could pull it out incase i got it too deep. just used a sawzall blade. I really want a sawzall. got so much use for one right now lol
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Oh for sure. I used a rag. shoved it down my manifold with a tie so i could pull it out incase i got it too deep. just used a sawzall blade. I really want a sawzall. got so much use for one right now lol
If I end up doing this I have my handy dremel. I think I will wait until I get the manifold ported, that way I can do it off the car and vacuum up all the shavings.

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Oh god, the shaving were everywhere. I didnt even smooth it out or anything, just cut them down as low as i could and left it. I also had a plastic bag undernieth so they wouldnt drop into and nooks on the engine and melt or worse get caught in the belts. best to remove it when doing things like that.
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Looking at a wrecked 5.0 and noticed the throttle body is about 80 mm. Does this plug directly into the same connector as the v6 throttle body and would it work like the bbk 73mm? 7 mm is not much of a difference and it would make for an inexpensive mod that would give good results.

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I think the 70mm BBK offered by American Muscle would be a better fit for you V6. It appears that BBK has it specifically designed for the V6.
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I think the 70mm BBK offered by American Muscle would be a better fit for you V6. It appears that BBK has it specifically designed for the V6.
Ya, we know. Thing is we can't justify paying over $350 for something like that. it's not worth it. At least with this GT TB mock up a couple guys are saying the improvement is there and for the cost of a GT take off it's much more worth it to experiment.
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Looking at a wrecked 5.0 and noticed the throttle body is about 80 mm. Does this plug directly into the same connector as the v6 throttle body and would it work like the bbk 73mm? 7 mm is not much of a difference and it would make for an inexpensive mod that would give good results.
Back in the old days, there was a rule of thumb that said if you wanted to increase power you had to address the Three Cs: Compression, Camming, and Carburetion. This still holds true today with modern engines except that you have to see it in modern terms. I remember people installing larger carburetors (what you are essentially wanting to do) and simply flooding the motor since they didn't change the cam or pistons. The engineers at Ford have gone to painstaking measures to come up with the combination that you have in a 3.7, or any motor for that matter. I'm afraid that simply changing to a larger TB is only going to result in frustration and wasted money on your part, especially considering the fit mods you will have to do.
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I think the 70mm BBK offered by American Muscle would be a better fit for you V6. It appears that BBK has it specifically designed for the V6.
Yes, it is designed to specifically fit the 3.7L but going from stock to the 70mm BBK TB isn't enough of a performance gain to warrant its hefty price. Whereas the stock GT TB can be bought for much cheaper, and with minimal machining experience, can be modified to fit the 3.7L. Plus, being an 80mm TB, the GT's could be more of a performance gain over the BBK TB.
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The 80mm throttle body matches the bigger intake tubes and maf. Pipe and air filter. The opening of the upper intake manifold, with fins removed and sanded matches the 80mm throttle body eliminating a choke point in the intake flow. Having a tune is a must with a big intake and the 80mm throttle body. It definitely is peppy and feels alot more aggressive. I am still running a 93 race tune and have a dyno run and possible tune scheduled the end of the month. If it needs to be adjusted I will have it retuned to optimize the larger tb. If it looks smooth and good then I will stay with the tune I have. The stock tb is 67mm, then bbk is 73mm, 5.0 tb is 80mm. Most 5.0 guys get an 85 mm or even 90 mm tb so the availability of an 80mm tb is easy and way cheaper. The dyno will tell if it's a good mod. If the 73mm tb has gains then the 80mm should have equal if not better gains.

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+1! Oh and Bazinga the fins are literally right there once you remove the TB. 4 bolts and then POP! it's off. Although this would be a perfect opportunity for someone to make some money. Get a couple GT TB, drill out the holes to get them to fit and charge for labor. You can do a core charge if anyone has a TB already they can send it or just order straight out.
Ah man, I would literally have a huge sale of GT throttle bodies ready to bolt on our 3.7s if we had enough mustangs in my city. It's mostly beamers, audis', mercedes, souped up ricer cars with angled wheels, and domestics. Very few American Muscle enthusiasts here.
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The 80mm throttle body matches the bigger intake tubes and maf. Pipe and air filter. The opening of the upper intake manifold, with fins removed and sanded matches the 80mm throttle body eliminating a choke point in the intake flow. Having a tune is a must with a big intake and the 80mm throttle body. It definitely is peppy and feels alot more aggressive. I am still running a 93 race tune and have a dyno run and possible tune scheduled the end of the month. If it needs to be adjusted I will have it retuned to optimize the larger tb. If it looks smooth and good then I will stay with the tune I have. The stock tb is 67mm, then bbk is 73mm, 5.0 tb is 80mm. Most 5.0 guys get an 85 mm or even 90 mm tb so the availability of an 80mm tb is easy and way cheaper. The dyno will tell if it's a good mod. If the 73mm tb has gains then the 80mm should have equal if not better gains.

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Hey sorry if this is already covered in your write up, but do you have a bigger aftermarket intake tube and MAF? - like bigger than what you get with an air raid.
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Who is currently offering porting services and does anyone know the cost? I've looked at GT throttle bodies on ebay and they aren't too bad. I may give it a shot but am still undecided.

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Ah man, I would literally have a huge sale of GT throttle bodies ready to bolt on our 3.7s if we had enough mustangs in my city. It's mostly beamers, audis', mercedes, souped up ricer cars with angled wheels, and domestics. Very few American Muscle enthusiasts here.
Get them on ebay or send out wanted ads on forums requesting take offs.
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Get them on ebay or send out wanted ads on forums requesting take offs.
This. There are TONS of them on ebay.

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Ye I just found one for 50 bucks shipped from a 2013 GT. And now the hard part begins: cutting and fabing lol.

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Ye I just found one for 50 bucks shipped from a 2013 GT. And now the hard part begins: cutting and fabing lol.

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What did you search? Were there others?

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I know a person who's selling one. I will send you his info via PM

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Some person was selling adapter plates so you didn't have to modify the new throttle body, I don't remember where it was.

But for those fins, a simple dremel tool or even a manual file should work fine. I'd probably put some tape or something so the shavings don't fall into the intake manifold though, especially if you're leaving it on the car.

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Lowbwan here. I simply grabbed the fins with a pair of long nosed pliers and broke them off one at a time. I only removed the top set as these are the only fins that restrict the 80mm butterfly. When I first did this, I just wanted to know if it could be done. This weekend I intend to take the upper intake off and clean up the upper and lower fins. I'll use a 1/4" 4 flute end mill in my die grinder but I will turn the speed down. This cuts really well without loosing control when dealing with the glass reinforced plastic these manifolds are made of.
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Random question: how hard is it to remove IM, and coil covers underneath? Mine are filthy as faawk cuz of all the rain and dirt.

Also, what paint would you suggest for coil covers? I know it's supposed to be high temp, any particular brand with good reviews/ease of use?

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Random question: how hard is it to remove IM, and coil covers underneath? Mine are filthy as faawk cuz of all the rain and dirt.

Also, what paint would you suggest for coil covers? I know it's supposed to be high temp, any particular brand with good reviews/ease of use?

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Duplicolor has a decent high temp engine enamel paint as well as just regular high temp paints. I hear its pretty easy to remove the IM, not sure about coil covers. id like to know too
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I believe theres a guy here with procharger who has his covers painted, I forgot his username though. Maybe he can chime in to give some insight.

Ps: Fintile, what did you use to drill hole on TB? Did you use something to allign them correctly over IM holes?

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I still have not done this. Im going to get my minifolds ported first, then if im able to find someone willing to fab up the GT TB for me i'll just buy it off them. that or try to find a BBK for less than $150.
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I still have not done this. Im going to get my minifolds ported first, then if im able to find someone willing to fab up the GT TB for me i'll just buy it off them. that or try to find a BBK for less than $150.
You're definitely not finding a BBK under 150 unless someone is desperate.

The GT TB fabrication isn't that difficult from what I understand. Granted, I haven't done it personally. For less than the cost of the BBK, you could buy the GT TB and take it to a machine shop and have them do it if you're uncomfortable.

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What he said ^

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You're definitely not finding a BBK under 150 unless someone is desperate.

The GT TB fabrication isn't that difficult from what I understand. Granted, I haven't done it personally. For less than the cost of the BBK, you could buy the GT TB and take it to a machine shop and have them do it if you're uncomfortable.

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Oh that's what I ment lol. Since finding a used BBK is out of the question I'm going to see if I can find someone or a shop to do the work. I just have a cheep cordless drill from Wallmart. I couldn't do the fabbing if I wanted to.
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You don't need an expensive drill. I used a cordless and just used a vice, clamps and some blocks to line it all up

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Man, I just priced out what I'd need to do this and I mine as well buy a BBK for $250.
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