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Old 08-03-2014, 05:03 AM   #1
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Bad quality: Bbk long tube headers

Was quite disappointed with the long tube headers that i ordered through amazon. The finish is rubbish! Good thing I am not building this for show!

And it was not even bubble wrapped!
Disappointed. ..
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I see your pretty new to the forum

There have been a number of posts on the Mustang forums regarding the quakity of BBK headers.
BEFORE YOUR INSTALL THEM:::
Look very carefully at the welds to be sure there are no holes that will cause a leak of exhaust. It only takes a very small pin hole to give you problems.

If you think there could be a problem you need to return them and call BBK and complain. At one time they were one of the best but I guess they have the headers welded in China or some other crappy country. It could not be America with the crappy work like that being put out now could it?????
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I would return them directly to bbk regardless,
Have them send you a replacement set.
No need to settle for a crap finish when you did not pay for it.

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Ew, I would send them back and call BBK immediately. I'm guessing you are in Dubai from your name so it's hard to find v6 mustang parts? I don't think AM will ship to Dubai lol. If you're stuck shopping on amazon for car parts, read ALL the reviews before purchasing something.
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Go with the Mac ceramic long tubes and send those back they'll only get worst


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Go with the Mac ceramic long tubes and send those back they'll only get worst


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+100 go with mac ceramic or any ceramic definitely no rust at all, bigshow14 my Mac still looking brand new same as when I got it from you.

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+100 go with mac ceramic or any ceramic definitely no rust at all, bigshow14 my Mac still looking brand new same as when I got it from you.

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Glad they're working out for you. My right foot sure does miss having them.lol
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Man, what happened to BBK? They used to be a really good company...
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Man, what happened to BBK? They used to be a really good company...
It's just their chrome headers mainly. Enough people are dealing with it verses sending them back. A butt load of returns should catch bbks QA/QC departments attention


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I've got BBK Ceramic headers on my car!.. Zero problems with fit or finish!..


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Ceramic will be better all around regarding rust or warping issues but for their stainless that's where the true quality questions should come up. I just installed some BBK shorties and inspected them thoroughly. Also had the mechanic inspect them. After install it was air tight. No leaks or gasket issues. Which could be a 1 in 15 chance I got a good set. I say just go with whatever you think would be best. If they have issues upon delivery then send them back or call and complain. Who knows maybe you'll get lucky and they will just send you another set no charge. I've had that happen a couple times with various purchases.
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Yah, I should have ordered the ceramic one. Contacting amazon now...

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I'm planning on getting MAC ceramic shorty headers. How do shorty headers change the sound and how's the power compared to long tubes?


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I'm planning on getting MAC ceramic shorty headers. How do shorty headers change the sound and how's the power compared to long tubes?


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You will like them a lot easy to install sound and perform great. I sold mine to purchase long tubes but now I'm not 100% sure I made the right choiceAttachment 162873


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From what I've noticed is it deepens the tone and quiets it out at idle. I've also noticed a nice "gerggling" as I drive. Similar to a Subaru but not as intense or obnoxious (for those who don't like the sound)
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Sorry bro. Go with the long tube what are you waiting for? It will make up from the lost time you don't have the shorty. I love the shorty every minute of it..

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Sorry bro. Go with the long tube what are you waiting for? It will make up from the lost time you don't have the shorty. I love the shorty every minute of it..

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Lol I have to get passed all of this back to school expense first. Your car is looking and sounding great.


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You will like them a lot easy to install sound and perform great. I sold mine to purchase long tubes but now I'm not 100% sure I made the right choice
Whoa Bigshow you sold your shorties? You were the poster child for the new Mac ceramic shorties, you are the main reason that is going to be my first exhaust mod!
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Whoa Bigshow you sold your shorties? You were the poster child for the new Mac ceramic shorties, you are the main reason that is going to be my first exhaust mod!
Don't pass them up when the coin is available ill be purchasing the Mac long tubes. The shorties where great but I plan on adding a lil juice down the road and think the long tubes would be more beneficial. I could be wrong thou.


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Don't pass them up when the coin is available ill be purchasing the Mac long tubes. The shorties where great but I plan on adding a lil juice down the road and think the long tubes would be more beneficial. I could be wrong thou.
Please elaborate what you mean by adding a lil juice. Are you thinking of FI or are you just saying you want bigger HP numbers from the long tubes?

It is my understanding that long tubes provide more horsepower in the top-end. Shorties may even decrease your max horsepower, but will give you more torque at the low-end, which is where our V6s need it. I don't know any of this for a fact, just what I understand from reading what others say.
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It is my understanding that long tubes provide more horsepower in the top-end. Shorties may even decrease your max horsepower, but will give you more torque at the low-end, which is where our V6s need it. I don't know any of this for a fact, just what I understand from reading what others say.

Thats about what everyone says but I've been hearing that with what you gain down low having shorties it more than makes up the factional HP numbers you lose up top. Either way your better than those thin restrictive stock manifolds all around with shorties or with long tubes. I'd say go with shorties if anyone is on the fence. BBK are Carb legal and won't inhibit your cats if your looking to pass emissions you'd also gain some low end trq. For most of us who have at max CAI, X pipe, axle backs, and a tune your well aware that what our cars need more than a few top end hp is some low end trq.
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The shorties help from low to midrange the most. They work well if you want to keep the stock or modified midpipe.


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Work even better if you get an X or H pipe and keep your factory over axel pipes. My low and mid range jumped once I installed mine. I even forgot to load the new tune. I just loaded the tune today and damn...
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Work even better if you get an X or H pipe and keep your factory over axel pipes. My low and mid range jumped once I installed mine. I even forgot to load the new tune. I just loaded the tune today and damn...
Really.... What is your setup?

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Work even better if you get an X or H pipe and keep your factory over axel pipes. My low and mid range jumped once I installed mine. I even forgot to load the new tune. I just loaded the tune today and damn...
You have shorties? Good TQ?

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Called amazon to raise a complain.

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- they can replace it but I need to send it back.

Doesn't make any financial sense to send it back since I paid approximately usd250 to ship it to dubai from new york. I'll end up spending usd750 overall if I will pushing through the suggested process...

Will just keep it BUT I will not use BBK products in the future or even recommend it.

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Thanks guys that's really a big help. I'm leaning towards the shorties with the lethal performance off road h pipe. I just gotta be patient 😔


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Ya trq is soooo much better! I can pull from 1,500 -3k rpm in 3rd really nicely. It's what this car has been needing desperately. I just hope that my 3rd attempt to install a CAI doesn't make me regret it...again.
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BBK Shorties, 2012 GT H pipe, stock over axel and magnaflow streets series axel backs.

Ya trq is soooo much better! I can pull from 1,500 -3k rpm in 3rd really nicely. It's what this car has been needing desperately. I just hope that my 3rd attempt to install a CAI doesn't make me regret it...again.
This seems like a very good setup. I think I will start with the Mac ceramic shorties and see how that goes. If I want more later on I'll look into the h-pipe. I never considered doing any aftermarket midpipe, but I didn't know that you would see a noticeable increase in torque when in combo with the shorties until you said so. And I'll still be okay emissions-wise. Thanks for the tip.
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This seems like a very good setup. I think I will start with the Mac ceramic shorties and see how that goes. If I want more later on I'll look into the h-pipe. I never considered doing any aftermarket midpipe, but I didn't know that you would see a noticeable increase in torque when in combo with the shorties until you said so. And I'll still be okay emissions-wise. Thanks for the tip.
I tried running the macs only no other mods and the low-mid torque was very noticeable.


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Ya trq is soooo much better! I can pull from 1,500 -3k rpm in 3rd really nicely. It's what this car has been needing desperately. I just hope that my 3rd attempt to install a CAI doesn't make me regret it...again.
Nice!! Do you have gears? I can't pull the trigger yet..

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There is a 2014gt h-pipe section no cats on ebay right now $65 shipped.
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Nice!! Do you have gears? I can't pull the trigger yet..

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The 5.0 and 3.7 mid pipes are nowhere near the same shape / size, how in the world did you do that unless you had an exhaust shop cut it up and weld it?
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