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Old 08-08-2014, 06:29 AM   #36
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just to clarify, to turn off t/c besides the button the computer looks for an input from the brake switch. all you need to do is have your foot lightly on the brake enough to activate the brake lights. It doesn't care if you are moving or not.

Dawg, I ain't sure when they swapped out engine programing. With newer auto's burnouts were difficult something about not letting it rev past 2k? with the brake on...not sure of details. Have fun but experiment somewhere safe especially the 1st time
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I couldn't stand my 2.73s, they were way to tall. IMO they should never had been standard in the base mustang. I would have like to have seen 3.31s standard and an optional 3.55s or 3.73s in the performance package. My first reaction when I test drove one was where the hell is the advertised 305hp, this thing blows off the line. Now with 3.73s its a beast!
I wish I could stop hearing this . I have an extra set of 3.73's I bought for my Capri but are not using and I know how to set up gears. This thing is such a pig off the ine, it is very tempting. Sucks I'd have to drop in tuner and ruin drivetrain warantee just from a gear swap.
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2.73's suck donkey $#@%.


Even worse in the automatics.


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The 2.73's are a bit on the tall side for a such a weak engine. That said, I managed a 1.96 60' with a manual trans on stock tires. The 2.73's require a bit of clutch slip for good off the line performance, otherwise you are either going to bog or spin.

I think 3.73+ gears on these cars would be stupid, at least with the MT82. The internal ratios are horrible.

Still, I have thought about re-gearing the car. I wouldn't mind trying the stock GT's 3.15's from the automatics. Assuming the gear is thick enough for the a shock a manual trans provides.
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I dont thing the 2.73's are bad at all but you have to remember this is a performance oriented fourm. So of course people are going to upgrade and get what is the best performing gears. But for daily driving the 2.73's aren't bad. A little slow off the line but once you get the RPM's up its a fun car to drive that still gets great MPG's on the highway. Again, I've said this many times with many different parts. There is not one best gear, it's what is best for what you use the car for.
When the term bad for 2:73 gears is used, the meaning bad is geared towards performance. You mention, this is a performance orientated forum. Exactly bro. Thats why many are on these forums, to talk performance. Were talking performance wise the 2:73 gears are the poorest option when it comes to that.

If someone wants to maximize or even enhance their cars performance potential, 2:73 gears is not where its at. 2:73 gears are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to performance. Its fuel saving gears and that's fine for people who are not looking for increased low end acceleration.

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2.73s are perfect for taking off and turning at an intersection. By the time you hit the powerband you are already pointing straight. I was going to change them but once my car hit 2000 miles it was not an issue for me. Then again I'm more of a cruiser and handling guy, not a dragracer.
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2.73s are perfect for taking off and turning at an intersection. By the time you hit the powerband you are already pointing straight. I was going to change them but once my car hit 2000 miles it was not an issue for me. Then again I'm more of a cruiser and handling guy, not a dragracer.
The mac shorties I had performed well with the 2.73. I'm in the same boat I can get all of the 3.15 and 3.31 gears I want for free from a friend of mine. Its just the 2.73s really dont bother me that much yet. I may dive in one day with some 3.73s just not top of my list.
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Honestly....I find when slowing (without stoping) and making turn you end up too low in the rpm band while turning in second gear. That's were I feel it the most...finishing a regular in town turn and accelerating from 1200 rpm. That and as I said before...backing up on a hill! Lol. I live in Vancouver. Hardly a level road or driveway anywhere. Not quite as bad as San Francisco but almost.


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Honestly....I find when slowing (without stoping) and making turn you end up too low in the rpm band while turning in second gear. That's were I feel it the most...finishing a regular in town turn and accelerating from 1200 rpm. That and as I said before...backing up on a hill! Lol. I live in Vancouver. Hardly a level road or driveway anywhere. Not quite as bad as San Francisco but almost.


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Yea here in Louisiana the hills we have are the interstate overpasses lol. Yea the 2.73s probably do suck for you. The macs helped with that low rpm slump.
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It all depends on what someone is looking for. There is no wrong or right gear but wrong gear depending on what one is trying to accomplish. Me getting rid of my 2:73 gears was the second best mod I did. I absolutely love my 3:73 gears. I recently have been getting 27 mpg highway and that's traveling 75 mph. If someone here has never ridden in our 3.7 with 3:73 gears than you don't know any better. Its a night and day difference going from 2:73 gears to 3:73 gears.

If someone is not interested in enhancing their acceleration performance and wants to get 30 plus mpg highway then certainly KEEP the 2:73 gears.

For me, I wasn't interested in getting 30 mpg highway and wanted far better down low grunt acceleration and that's what 3:73 gears did.

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I use mine mostly for commuting 75 miles a day, so a bigger engine, decent handling on the road (longer wheelbase and weight like a midsize car), and good gas mileage were important.

If you have manual, trust me, you can be a complete hooligan with it. You just have to keep the revs up a bit and turn off the computers. Me? I leave them on as 99% of the time the limiting factor driving around is the idiot in the Prius going 30mph in front of me. 0-60 means nothing if the traffic is hell bent on going 0-60 in 15 seconds.
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The 2.73s get a bad rap. My car doesnt run to bad with them. Heres a video of a first gear roll then shift to second. Ran up on traffic so had to stop. Sr performance springs, j&m panhard bar, barton bracket and faux gt500 mufflers only mods



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They suck but they arent as bad as everyone says. Hell i beat an old stingray on friday, and i could hear buddy pushing that thing HARD.

Also barely got beat by a buddy with a '10 gt with 3.73s from the factory.

Still gonna swap gears someday tho lol
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Jeremy. In the convertible the pony package still has 2.73. Trust me. I can get up to 124km/hour in second beer. Plus I have the original window sticker. States pony package and 2.73.


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Jeremy. In the convertible the pony package still has 2.73. Trust me. I can get up to 124km/hour in second beer. Plus I have the original window sticker. States pony package and 2.73.


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Hmmmm. Stupid auto correct! Lol


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Jeremy. In the convertible the pony package still has 2.73. Trust me. I can get up to 124km/hour in second beer. Plus I have the original window sticker. States pony package and 2.73.


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Just traded my GF's auto v6 in for a standard, and i do not like the 2.73s at all. That is WAY too long of a gear, 3rd gear at 50 mph is 3000 rpms, are you kidding me? 6th gear is literally not useable below 70-75 mph on the highway, and you basically have to keep the revs up to have any sort of passing power. Not impressed at all, those will be one of the first things to go.
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I really don't miss my 2.73s
I love my 3.55s tho 😍

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I really don't miss my 2.73s
I love my 3.55s tho 😍

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You must feel a big difference from the 2.73s. I didn't realise how much of a difference they made until I got my 3.73s, they should have been my first mod. Great choice with the 3.55s.

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Just traded my GF's auto v6 in for a standard, and i do not like the 2.73s at all. That is WAY too long of a gear, 3rd gear at 50 mph is 3000 rpms, are you kidding me? 6th gear is literally not useable below 70-75 mph on the highway, and you basically have to keep the revs up to have any sort of passing power. Not impressed at all, those will be one of the first things to go.
I must be doing something wrong because my 6th gear is completely usable from 40 MPH and up. Given, I live in Indiana where there are no hills.

As for passing power, rev match it up to 5,000 rpm (for around 50 - 55 MPH), throw it into 2nd and stand on it. Shift into 3rd just before 80 and roll out. Seems to work pretty well for me.

The gearing with the 2.73's is retarded tall. I have taken 3rd gear to almost 130 MPH. This car should have came with at least 3.15's from the factory.
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Wow. At 40mph in 6th the rpm is at idle speed with almost 0 torque. You can floor it and be at 45 in about 30 seconds lol. Even at 60 in 6th there is almost no acceleration!


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2.73's will be what I possibly swap to with my new N2o setup.

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2.73's will be what I possibly swap to with my new N2o setup.

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I have a almost new set, gear and pinion, 50$ plus shipping. Lol

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I have a almost new set, gear and pinion, 50$ plus shipping. Lol

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See how much they will be shipped to new braunfels tx

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I will be able to get to about 60 mph in 1st with the 2.73's and 8,000 redline.

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OK, I'll check. I'll try and get back to you tonight.

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OK, I'll check. I'll try and get back to you tonight.

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Wow. How do you get to 8000? Is that not hard on the engine? I assume you have a tuner removing the redline?


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Wow. How do you get to 8000? Is that not hard on the engine? I assume you have a tuner removing the redline?


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Wow. At 40mph in 6th the rpm is at idle speed with almost 0 torque. You can floor it and be at 45 in about 30 seconds lol. Even at 60 in 6th there is almost no acceleration!


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Everyone drives their own way but in my opinion I don't think it's efficient or safe to have the car under 1000 rpm. I don't like to be under 1400 rpm even at a constant speed. Under that rpm you are actually flooring it on even the slightest grades. Plus it sounds like **** too! My opinion.


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I must be doing something wrong because my 6th gear is completely usable from 40 MPH and up. Given, I live in Indiana where there are no hills.

As for passing power, rev match it up to 5,000 rpm (for around 50 - 55 MPH), throw it into 2nd and stand on it. Shift into 3rd just before 80 and roll out. Seems to work pretty well for me.

The gearing with the 2.73's is retarded tall. I have taken 3rd gear to almost 130 MPH. This car should have came with at least 3.15's from the factory.
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I shouldnt have to downshift 4 gears to have passing power lol... This engine makes 300 hp for Christ's sake.

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Everyone drives their own way but in my opinion I don't think it's efficient or safe to have the car under 1000 rpm. I don't like to be under 1400 rpm even at a constant speed. Under that rpm you are actually flooring it on even the slightest grades. Plus it sounds like **** too! My opinion.


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I agree, its not healthy on the motor nor clutch to have it loaded that heavily. I try to keep her car around 2000 when cruising, and shifting around 2500 so it at least has SOME sense of get up and her car still averages 28 mpg. I can live with 3 mpg off the advertised average considering her larger 275 tires on 19's.
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I'm thinking you should donate the gears to Rap just so he owes you a ride in that beast........just sayin
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I will be able to get to about 60 mph in 1st with the 2.73's and 8,000 redline.
My Z28 hits just over 60 in 1st gear. Given it's a 2.66:1 ratio with 3.42 gears and a 7200 rpm redline. I always enjoy taking people for a ride and doing 20 - 30 in first gear, it never fails, someone always asks what gear we are in .. I just look over and floor it, the expressions on their faces is priceless.

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My Z28 hits just over 60 in 1st gear. Given it's a 2.66:1 ratio with 3.42 gears and a 7200 rpm redline. I always enjoy taking people for a ride and doing 20 - 30 in first gear, it never fails, someone always asks what gear we are in .. I just look over and floor it, the expressions on their faces is priceless.

Rap you still thinking about selling it or you going full on into building and spraying it?
Im keeping it. Everything it's fully built on the car already from front to rear. Only thing that has not ben touched is the mt-82 internally.

So yes we are getting ready to hit it with the 400 shot.

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