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Old 08-08-2014, 09:12 PM   #1
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A few Nitrous questions

Just have a few quick questions regarding nitrous. It seems like it'll be a fun, cost-effective way to have fun in my street driven 6 and make some good power. I have been doing a lot of research on here and from what I can tell it's looking like I should run a 100-shot bottle....
Can anyone who's run nitrous in the 3.7's chime in and tell me what's a good set up to run? And what's a good full kit that will have everything I need to run safely? A little confused on all the bottle warmers etc.
What's a reasonable price to be running a 100-shot in my car? Will I need to get it Dyno tuned or can MPT or Bama write me a tune? Just wanna be sure before I make any purchases. Thanks! Sorry if some of the questions are "noob" I've never ran nitrous before. It's not very big here on Long Island, mostly a bunch of dirt bags driving around POS JDM crap scraping the ground making fart can noises.


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This setup is what I will be going with -

This - 2011-2014 3.7L V6 Mustang Hard-line Plate System - Ford Systems - EFI Wet Nitrous Systems

and this - Brand X Stage 2 Accessory Package for 4AN Systems - Accessory Packages - Nitrous Accessories

That is everything you will need besides the nitrous, colder plugs and a tune.


As far as a tune, I have only dyno tuned my nitrous cars. I am a little leery of using a mail order tune on a 100 shot. I think it will be safe, but I feel like the tuners will need to leave a good bit on the table to stay in the Goldilocks zone of safety. I would imagine with a few data logs the tuners can get you dialed in pretty well.

The other issue is that once you spray a 100 shot, you're going to want more.

I plan on going to a 150 shot and knowing that is likely the limit. I just haven't heard much about others doing a 150 shot. So who knows.



I did a write up about nitrous a few months ago, it might be worth reading over. It's just the basic stuff - Nitrous - True Facts
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This setup is what I will be going with -

This - 2011-2014 3.7L V6 Mustang Hard-line Plate System - Ford Systems - EFI Wet Nitrous Systems

and this - Brand X Stage 2 Accessory Package for 4AN Systems - Accessory Packages - Nitrous Accessories

That is everything you will need besides the nitrous, colder plugs and a tune.


As far as a tune, I have only dyno tuned my nitrous cars. I am a little leery of using a mail order tune on a 100 shot. I think it will be safe, but I feel like the tuners will need to leave a good bit on the table to stay in the Goldilocks zone of safety. I would imagine with a few data logs the tuners can get you dialed in pretty well.

The other issue is that once you spray a 100 shot, you're going to want more.

I plan on going to a 150 shot and knowing that is likely the limit. I just haven't heard much about others doing a 150 shot. So who knows.



I did a write up about nitrous a few months ago, it might be worth reading over. It's just the basic stuff - Nitrous - True Facts
Wow, thanks! That's amazing info. I can't wait to read through it all right now. I was actually looking at that exact kit! It will be a little over $1k for everything, and I'm guessing a dyno tune would cost me about $400? I have no idea what colder plugs are. It's looking like I can run a 100 shot for between $1500-$2000... That looks like a much better alternative than a turbo or SC for $6k+.... I know if you don't cheap out and do everything proper it's totally safe. This is looking like a much more realistic option than taking a chance on a turbo kit or spending a lot of $ on a SC.... not really a huge fan of the procharger for the 3.7.... I wonder why more people don't run nitrous.
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My God, Ish. What do you do for a living? Might I suggest teacher? Or writer for an automotive journal? You have got to be one of the most valuable contributors to this site. Your write-ups are amazing and there is never a hint of condescension when you answer questions (unlike some other knowledgeable, yet ******-y, people on here). Thanks!

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My God, Ish. What do you do for a living? Might I suggest teacher? Or writer for an automotive journal? You have got to be one of the most valuable contributors to this site. Your write-ups are amazing and there is never a hint of condescension when you answer questions (unlike some other knowledgeable, yet ******-y, people on here). Thanks!
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My God, Ish. What do you do for a living? Might I suggest teacher? Or writer for an automotive journal? You have got to be one of the most valuable contributors to this site. Your write-ups are amazing and there is never a hint of condescension when you answer questions (unlike some other knowledgeable, yet ******-y, people on here). Thanks!

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Wow great info ish.. I like the idea of the nitrous. For 1k +Dyno tune. That seem like a great idea and it's instant so u can get a lil head start lol. Plus I like the idea of a 150 shot going from 50-75-100-125-150 so it's not putting all that pressure on ur internals. Nice info ish thanks

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Agreed... Ish has a very nice write up indeed!!!

I do want to stress a couple things...

1) N2O is highly addictive!!! The instant torque is crazy! As he pointed out, you will end up want to keep moving up to a bigger shot... I know I did in my 4.0... eventually popping my motor... So my advice to guys is to do a 75 or 100 HP shot and then throw away the other jets to remove the temptation!

2) Tuning... i would definitely be on the dyno the first time you spray and make sure your everything is being watched carefully!!

3) Street use... as Ish pointed out there is some legal things... it is illegal to use N20 in the majority of the states. Personally i would find N2O pretty useless around town... it is such a dramatic, instant hit that i really wouldn't want it on the city street.... That being said, yes, N2O is a very economical way to get FI on your car, but i feel it is a track only application where as the other FI options may cost more but they are much more street friendly and are available 100% of the time.

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