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Old 08-12-2014, 09:47 PM   #1
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JLT CAI + BAMA Tuner combo?

Is this deal worth it? Or is the BAMA tuner not worth it and should I just get the CAI?


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Other way around. The factory cold air induction system is fine on the stock motor. The tune will change everything.
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JLT CAI + BAMA Tuner combo?

So a new/after market CAI on a stock V6 isn't worth it? Hmm normally I've heard it the other way around.

Also: changing the overall performance is/was not a high priority of mine (at least right now) so I wasn't planning on getting the tuner if it wasn't included with the CAI.

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1st thing - a CAI (w/o tune) alone will get you almost no gains besides a nice whistle + looks.

2nd thing - The stock intake is quite well designed (can't say for previous years) and only seems to become a bottleneck when you start adding big power. Think ab it too, unless you're flooring it every time, you won't feel much of a difference with a larger intake.

3rd thing - there's better CAI's out there for the 2011+
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1st thing - a CAI (w/o tune) alone will get you almost no gains besides a nice whistle + looks.

2nd thing - The stock intake is quite well designed (can't say for previous years) and only seems to become a bottleneck when you start adding big power. Think ab it too, unless you're flooring it every time, you won't feel much of a difference with a larger intake.

3rd thing - there's better CAI's out there for the 2011+
So basically it would be worth it to get the combo deal of the CAI & Tuner? As opposed to just one of the 2?
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Worth it? I'd consider it an "only-option" to get the combo if you just wanted a CAI.

Back to it being 'worth it'? My opinion, no, not for you. On your car almost all of the gains out of that combo will be from the tune. Not worth the $200-$300 extra for the scam intake
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Worth it? I'd consider it an "only-option" to get the combo if you just wanted a CAI.

Back to it being 'worth it'? My opinion, no, not for you. On your car almost all of the gains out of that combo will be from the tune. Not worth the $200-$300 extra for the scam intake
Okay, thank you so much for your help/advice
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No problem. If you're not looking for performance why did you consider a CAI?
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I kinda stated that wrong. I meant that wasn't a top priority in my mind just yet. I considered a CAI because the first thing I am definitely doing is getting an exhaust. I have heard from other forums and heard personally that most people usually swap CAI's when they do exhausts too. So right now I'm really just testing the waters with what people think. Ya know?
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I see. You're talking about axle-backs or a full cat-back system with headers/mid-pipe?
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Axle back. I know that my v6 will basically always sound like a v6 no matter what exhaust you put on it so I looked towards axle backs mainly because of the cost. A lot of axle backs cost a couple hundred less than full cat-back systems and they (pretty much) sound the same (I've done a lot of video research and personally have heard a couple different systems).

I figured there would be no need to spend more money for a similar sound to a axle back for less.
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Don't feel bad, the 3.7 is a great performing and good sounding V6 as long as you don't put raspy mufflers on it IMO.

Yeah, typically I've been told unless you're taking your car to the track often and/or adding big power, the stock (some call them bent, ha) pipes seem to be fine.

The stock mufflers really aren't restrictive either (just heavy)... So combining them with a CAI doesn't really make sense. Now if you were doing long tubes and no cats... Makes a little more sense.
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Yeah I've heard that too. I just want a loud(er) sound than stock so I figured axle back would be a better option for what I want.

Again, thanks for all your help. Really appreciate the advice being that the in's and out's of under a car/a car's hood is not my forte.
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I believe a nice set of axle-backs will make you happy then.

I once was where you are in terms of car knowledge and am no where near some of the real gear heads on this forum. But this is a good place to start learning. One thing I will say though, members (including myself) will give you advice (whether it's accurate or straight up wrong) because that's all we can do. Where you're really going to learn (at least with modding cars) is first hand experience.
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2 Stangz gave u some good info. The CAI isn't really worth it until u get full bolt ons on. A tune IMO is the BEST mod u can do & should be the 1st. There are also a lot of different tuners out there besides BAMA (not saying their bad) but do ur research & find the best one for u!
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2 Stangz gave u some good info. The CAI isn't really worth it until u get full bolt ons on. A tune IMO is the BEST mod u can do & should be the 1st. There are also a lot of different tuners out there besides BAMA (not saying their bad) but do ur research & find the best one for u!

I think a Tune as a BEST mod depends on the car. If the car is like most, an automatic, then yes, HUGE difference. But if it is a manual without other mods, probably not worth it unless you go with a race tune and higher octane fuel as DD. Sure, the street tune will lower power band for better low end "feel", but overall power and performance will stay virtually unchanged with street tune and CAI. But a stock manual V6 running higher 93 octane fuel will also give a performance boost over 87.

I am lucky enough to have AM supply me with CAI and tunes to test out before purchase. Thanks AM! So far, 50/50 chance it will be returned. Still working on tunes though, so nothing final yet. Butt dynos are useless, need to compare real times to see what you really get. Only been 3 weeks and a little more than a dozen timed passes so far, but enough to see a trend.

Now if neither a CAI or tune gave a noticeably faster ET on paper as a DD running 87 octane in a manual V6, then I would probably skip the tune and might go with just the CAI for the sound improvement.
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Airaid CAI & currently running the BAMA 89 performance tune.

I agree that a tune would be the best first modification as I was running the street 87 before installing the CAI and the car was much more responsive.

Drive the car and keep researching. No hurry to make modifications





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I say tune and gears. Take the 250-300 you were going to spend on a CAI and put it towards gears and install labour. I paid 550 for 3.73s and the labour, combined with a tune IMO is the best first mods!

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I think a Tune as a BEST mod depends on the car. If the car is like most, an automatic, then yes, HUGE difference. But if it is a manual without other mods, probably not worth it unless you go with a race tune and higher octane fuel as DD. Sure, the street tune will lower power band for better low end "feel", but overall power and performance will stay virtually unchanged with street tune and CAI. But a stock manual V6 running higher 93 octane fuel will also give a performance boost over 87. I am lucky enough to have AM supply me with CAI and tunes to test out before purchase. Thanks AM! So far, 50/50 chance it will be returned. Still working on tunes though, so nothing final yet. Butt dynos are useless, need to compare real times to see what you really get. Only been 3 weeks and a little more than a dozen timed passes so far, but enough to see a trend. Now if neither a CAI or tune gave a noticeably faster ET on paper as a DD running 87 octane in a manual V6, then I would probably skip the tune and might go with just the CAI for the sound improvement.
Dud I can barley understand what ur trying to say ur all over the place.
Even a 87 street tune is way better than the stock tune. Guarantee u will run way better ETs stock with the tune only vs no tune w/ CAI.
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Dud I can barley understand what ur trying to say ur all over the place.
Even a 87 street tune is way better than the stock tune. Guarantee u will run way better ETs stock with the tune only vs no tune w/ CAI.


Dude, I am simply saying that with a "manual transmission", an 87S tune will not be as useful as it will be to automatic equipped V6's. It might actually be worse. Believe me, I want the tune to be better than stock.

Real numbers, not butt dyno:
2014 PP manual

(some passes had the notorious locked out of 3rd shift point, so aborted those, but still show 60' and 330'. Shifter bushing replaced after these tests).


Stock:

60' = 2.12
330' = 6.00
1/8 = 9.17 @ 77.27

60' = 2.15
330' = 6.00


60' = 2.05
330' = 6.05

60' = 2.10
330' = 5.95
1/8 = 9.15 @ 77.93
1/4 = 14.18 @ 88.80

60' = 2.10
330' = 5.98
1/8 = 9.15 @ 78.39
1/4 = 14.05 @ 100.51 (higher mph due to excessive wheel spin at launch)


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And now 87S
60' = 2.07
330' = 6.02
1/8 = 9.25 @ 76.83

Run 7 87S
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.05
1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.21

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and 87P
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.07
1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.42

Run 4 87P
60' = 2.17
330' = 6.10

Run 5 87P
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.10
1/8 = 9.35 @ 75.85
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Dude, I am simply saying that with a "manual transmission", an 87S tune will not be as useful as it will be to automatic equipped V6's. It might actually be worse. Believe me, I want the tune to be better than stock.

Real numbers, not butt dyno:
2014 PP manual

(some passes had the notorious locked out of 3rd shift point, so aborted those, but still show 60' and 330'. Shifter bushing replaced after these tests).


Stock:

60' = 2.12
330' = 6.00
1/8 = 9.17 @ 77.27

60' = 2.15
330' = 6.00

60' = 2.05
330' = 6.05

60' = 2.10
330' = 5.95
1/8 = 9.15 @ 77.93
1/4 = 14.18 @ 88.80

60' = 2.10
330' = 5.98
1/8 = 9.15 @ 78.39
1/4 = 14.05 @ 100.51 (higher mph due to excessive wheel spin at launch)


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And now 87S
60' = 2.07
330' = 6.02
1/8 = 9.25 @ 76.83

Run 7 87S
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.05
1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.21

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and 87P
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.07
1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.42

Run 4 87P
60' = 2.17
330' = 6.10

Run 5 87P
60' = 2.15
330' = 6.10
1/8 = 9.35 @ 75.85
Bro, I have Bama tunes, and although not as aggressive as mpt or Lund, the 87s tune is waaay better than the factory tune. Not only is throttle response greatly improved, but the power is much smoother over the entire rpm band. This is the first time I've ever heard of someone say a 87 tune on a manual or auto can be worse the the crap factory tune.


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Bro, I have Bama tunes, and although not as aggressive as mpt or Lund, the 87s tune is waaay better than the factory tune. Not only is throttle response greatly improved, but the power is much smoother over the entire rpm band. This is the first time I've ever heard of someone say a 87 tune on a manual or auto can be worse the the crap factory tune. Confused.
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I agree if using the butt dyno. Around town the 87S is much better driving and feels much more powerful low end. But ET's show those gains are lost on all out passes. With an automatic, they also get harder shifts, so that (87S) will increase overall performance at all speeds compared to stock.


I have seen some indications that the 2014 ECU is slightly different. Maybe Ford has it tweaked a little better than prior ECU's, or has something that is limited tune performance?


This thread is about the GT ECU in 2014, but perhaps some of that is carried over to the V6? Might not be same thing, but indicates changes do happen that affect tunes. Any 2014 owners declined by AED?
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I agree if using the butt dyno. Around town the 87S is much better driving and feels much more powerful low end. But ET's show those gains are lost on all out passes. With an automatic, they also get harder shifts, so that will increase overall performance at all speeds compared to stock.


I have seen some indications that the 2014 ECU is slightly different. Maybe Ford has it tweaked a little better than prior ECU's, or has something that is limited tune performance?
No it won't. 87 tune > tune. I have an automatic.
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I agree if using the butt dyno. Around town the 87S is much better driving and feels much more powerful low end. But ET's show those gains are lost on all out passes. With an automatic, they also get harder shifts, so that will increase overall performance at all speeds compared to stock.
Your right the auto does benefit much more with a tune, it is really firms up the shift points. I haven't tracked my car yet, but my butt dyno feels more "go fast now" than the factory tune. I usually run a 91h and 93r and haven't used my 87s in a little while though. I did remember when I loaded the 87s for the first time from stock I was wowed by just the way better throttle response.

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Dude, I am simply saying that with a "manual transmission", an 87S tune will not be as useful as it will be to automatic equipped V6's. It might actually be worse. Believe me, I want the tune to be better than stock. Real numbers, not butt dyno: 2014 PP manual (some passes had the notorious locked out of 3rd shift point, so aborted those, but still show 60' and 330'. Shifter bushing replaced after these tests). Stock: 60' = 2.12 330' = 6.00 1/8 = 9.17 @ 77.27 60' = 2.15 330' = 6.00 60' = 2.05 330' = 6.05 60' = 2.10 330' = 5.95 1/8 = 9.15 @ 77.93 1/4 = 14.18 @ 88.80 60' = 2.10 330' = 5.98 1/8 = 9.15 @ 78.39 1/4 = 14.05 @ 100.51 (higher mph due to excessive wheel spin at launch) ---------- And now 87S 60' = 2.07 330' = 6.02 1/8 = 9.25 @ 76.83 Run 7 87S 60' = 2.15 330' = 6.05 1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.21 ----- and 87P 60' = 2.15 330' = 6.07 1/8 = 9.30 @ 76.42 Run 4 87P 60' = 2.17 330' = 6.10 Run 5 87P 60' = 2.15 330' = 6.10 1/8 = 9.35 @ 75.85
We're these runs done same day/track? That seems odd even with a 87street tune, that your running worse times if it was same day/track..u should have BAMA look at the tune because something is def wrong if it's making your car worse!
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^It wouldn't surprise me if its something in the tune... I swear a few times a week there's new threads ab Bama tune problems... Not that other email tuners have issues but its almost always Bama
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Those numbers are from initial custom tunes sent. 87P had major issues, falling flat right after shift points, then speeding up. An updated 87S was sent after datalogging, with similar results to first 87S, felt fast around town, but ET numbers showed overall losses compared to stock tested at same time.. Transmission bracket bushing stopped my testing at the time. Still a work in progress with a new 87P coming soon I hope. I would rather wait on comments until I can retest with good shifter and new updated tunes.


I would like to see other's post 2014 V6 manual transmission car ET's before and after tune.
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^It wouldn't surprise me if its something in the tune... I swear a few times a week there's new threads ab Bama tune problems... Not that other email tuners have issues but its almost always Bama
Part of the reason for that is SO MANY people have Bama. I bet 80% of people who have tuned their mustangs at least use Bama. Also, many people have seen others bash them and now do so. So there was a problem with your tune. It was fixed, problem solved. This happens so often, it just happens people post about Bama. I had problems with my MPT tune where I couldn't even accelerate over half throttle. I had no problems with my Bama but did a few revisions. Both were awesome, took their time with me, constant and quick contact, and I am happy to own both tunes. I love both of them they are both great, I don't consider one "better" than the other. Think of Bama as Walmart. Think of the other tuners (MPT, Steeda, etc.) as mom-and-pop groceries. There will be A LOT more complaints about Walmart in a worldwide community. Now I'm not saying any tuning co. is better than another, as that's a whole nother debate not for this thread, but Bama deals with so many more people and tunes on a daily basis, the 1% that have a problem could be 100, versus MPT, Steeda, etc. those 100 people could be 5% or more. A lot more of a chance for the Bama "complaints" to get out on the 'net. Then again, 99% of complaints I've seen can be simply answered by "call your tuner, they will re-write it, data log, and fix it". "I shouldn't have to do that it should have been perfect the first time". Really? Your $30,000 car that's different than everyone elses should have been perfectly dialed in through an email tune? Things happen, no need to get mad/upset, you decided to tune it, deal with the process.
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^Read the first sentence and just gonna guess you're saying Bama gets a lot of 'negative recognition' because its one of the largest email tuners.

Yeah... That has a lot to do with it too. But I've only seen one person literally over the past 2 years or so have a problem with Steeda's tunes. 1 and counting. I think I've seen 1 person have a problem with their MPT tune. Its not like the latter are one-off tunes. They're still popular.

Bama has a bad rep for a reason, even tuner-savvy members on these boards don't just dog on Bama for no good reason. And btw - I have Bama tunes too.
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^Read the first sentence and just gonna guess you're saying Bama gets a lot of 'negative recognition' because its one of the largest email tuners.

Yeah... That has a lot to do with it too. But I've only seen one person literally over the past 2 years or so have a problem with Steeda's tunes. 1 and counting. I think I've seen 1 person have a problem with their MPT tune. Its not like the latter are one-off tunes. They're still popular.

Bama has a bad rep for a reason, even tuner-savvy members on these boards don't just dog on Bama for no good reason. And btw - I have Bama tunes too.
Yeah I think for a lot of people MPT, Lund, AED, etc. are the prime time tuning choices.... and that's for a reason. They are the premium tuners, and you get what you pay for.
The thing is, a lot of us on here are Mustang fanatics. We want the best of the best of the best. For your average owner who just wants a quick tune, peace of mind, and will never track, dyno, or even talk to anyone about it, Bama is probably just the easiest. It's like the Mcdonalds of tuning, fast, easy, cheap, and you can keep going back for life :p . Lund, AED, etc. are like fancy steak dinners.... MPT is cheese cake factory lmao.
When I eventually FI I will try and get an AED tune, but I heard he will not tune 3.7's, even if they are FI

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^Read the first sentence and just gonna guess you're saying Bama gets a lot of 'negative recognition' because its one of the largest email tuners.

Yeah... That has a lot to do with it too. But I've only seen one person literally over the past 2 years or so have a problem with Steeda's tunes. 1 and counting. I think I've seen 1 person have a problem with their MPT tune. Its not like the latter are one-off tunes. They're still popular.

Bama has a bad rep for a reason, even tuner-savvy members on these boards don't just dog on Bama for no good reason. And btw - I have Bama tunes too.
Yeah I think for a lot of people MPT, Lund, AED, etc. are the prime time tuning choices.... and that's for a reason. They are the premium tuners, and you get what you pay for.
The thing is, a lot of us on here are Mustang fanatics. We want the best of the best of the best. For your average owner who just wants a quick tune, peace of mind, and will never track, dyno, or even talk to anyone about it, Bama is probably just the easiest. It's like the Mcdonalds of tuning, fast, easy, cheap, and you can keep going back for life :p . Lund, AED, etc. are like fancy steak dinners.... MPT is cheese cake factory lmao.
When I eventually FI I will try and get an AED tune, but I heard he will not tune 3.7's, even if they are FI
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