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Old 08-14-2014, 07:25 PM   #36
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That's weird, I only have pype bombs, everything else is stock and I average a 5.5 easy.
Location , Gears, and Temps; That is all it really adds up to.
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OK folks on Intake, NO intake alone on 2011+ will give you more power then the STOCK air-box; what it does give you is some sound. Jay Leno and the Boss 302 engineer talk about this in Jay's Garage videos.

Ford Racing also says anyone that claims to give you power gains on an Intake only could be suspect and may cause issues in your performance. That is why before the 2011 model they gave your an intake but not after that in the Ford Racing performance packs. Now they just give you a filter.

Folks, its all available on the internet , seek and yea shall find...do real research...


+1000 amen brother. The stock airbox is not just a tube to get air from point a to point b. It is precision tuned to even account for resonance with the valve timing. Aftermarket CAI's (without a supporting tune) will never do better.
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Ok, but I have the tune...

I think I was not putting it in S mode and I was starting from idle with traction control on.

I'll retry. Anyhow I am going to do headers soon and dyno to see what the status is.

As for ford racing...I just spent 4 freakin' hours installing the Ford Racing X Pipe (cut and clamp). The cutting was a major pain in the ***...and then only to realize the X pipe was not perfectly welded and the fit was a little off alignment with the Cat tubes...I hope to hell it doesn't leak when I finish tomorrow and try.


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Ok, but I have the tune...

I think I was not putting it in S mode and I was starting from idle with traction control on.

I'll retry. Anyhow I am going to do headers soon and dyno to see what the status is.

As for ford racing...I just spent 4 freakin' hours installing the Ford Racing X Pipe (cut and clamp). The cutting was a major pain in the ***...and then only to realize the X pipe was not perfectly welded and the fit was a little off alignment with the Cat tubes...I hope to hell it doesn't leak when I finish tomorrow and try.


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Well not much a shop could have done any better...the alignment is off and would be off for them too. More like $90 than $40 anyhow since it's a 1 hour job minimum.




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So wait a second...then what the hell does a man have to do to get an extra 30hp ?? Seams opinions are all over the page...most would say "CAI" is the absolute first mod to get...


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My alignment was a little off and I paid $40 it was done in 30-40 minutes.
You want an extra 30 rwhp? 93 tune, headers, CAI, OR X-pipe should get you around that all together. $400 for tuner, $300 for headers, $300 for CAI, $180 x-pipe.... $1180 for all of that essentially. 6% forum discount from AM, plus some things discount etc. a little more than $1000 for everything. There's your 30 rwhp
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Which is pretty much what I have already except headers...

How did they fix the x pipe alignment to the cats for ya ?


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Which is pretty much what I have already except headers...

How did they fix the x pipe alignment to the cats for ya ?


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Not sure, I didn't watch them do it. They cut off before them and just welded it in. great shop, welds are perfect.
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Ah ok...weld. Well that explains it...but the part doesn't foresee a weld...it's supposed to clamp on.

If only their precision was better...


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Ah ok...weld. Well that explains it...but the part doesn't foresee a weld...it's supposed to clamp on.

If only their precision was better...


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You have to weld it. The exhaust shop literally wouldn't put it in unless it was welded


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Try to launch differently. Have your left foot on the brake and with your right foot rev it up as high as it will go with out your tires starting to spin. This is called a brake stand or power braking for me i can usually do 1700-1800 rpm then slide my left foot off the brake i get a consistent faster 0-60 times with this method and slight wheel spin for an automatic. Not enough of a wheel spin to hurt your times but enough to be cool lol. I have raced a friends STI with launching off idle and launching from the power braking method. Power braking method is by far the best method to launch off the line for an automatic with the stock torque converter.
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Cool...I also adjusted the RACE tune to have a higher idle (800rpm)


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I have done that as well it helps alot to raise your idle if you have long tube headers to keep your rpms from dipping too low for a sec or two. I think mine is set at 750 or 850 for idle and drive rpms. Makes your car sound slightly louder at the stop light as well which may or may not be a good thing for some of us haha.
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You guys who say CAI are useless or lose power... have you ever went from a CAI to a stock air box then back to a CAI? Or are you just saying that because you don't want to buy an intake lol.

I have done this at least 5 times back when I first got my car and was worried about the warranty. I would take the CAI off and ON every time I took the car to get the oil changed. It definitely makes a difference at throttle tip in, and throughout the whole rpm band. Not a huge life changing difference, but after driving with the cai for 8k miles, then putting on the stock box, driving with it for 30 miles to the dealer, then putting the cai back on and driving around you will immediately notice the difference. Enough so that I took the time to re install the CAI every time. Also, past 7000 RPM, from 7-7.5k the CAI actually makes a huge difference allowing the motor to hold the hp peak from 6600-7300 RPM. Without the CAI the engine peaks by 6500 and is not able to make power past that RPM, pulling substantially slower.

I've said this so many times. It's literally impossible for a CAI to not do anything. The stock intake has many restrictions, carbon traps, bends, seams, stops, et cetera built into it. Go take your stock intake off and look inside it. I have. It does hinder airflow. It's like sucking oxygen through a straw. Can you suck enough oxygen through a straw to stay alive? Yea. Can you suck enough oxygen out of a straw while lightly jogging? Yea. But imagine if you didn't have that straw there hindering airflow, it would be much easier to start jogging and jog harder. That's what a cai does. Relieve that restriction the engine has in initially pulling air into the combustion chambers. Allowing the engine to freely ingest air without any restriction.

Yes, the newer stock air boxes aren't as bad, many even providing cooler air than the "CAI" nowadays, but they all have even worse emissions controls now, and they all have the same restrictions in them as well.
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To answer the OP, your stock auto with 2.73 gears is the problem, couple that with a lazy torque converter and I'm assuming no break launch, and I see where you can get that time. Your mods can't help your situation much...your 1st gear goes to 55 MPH almost... shifting into 2nd drops you to around 3500 RPM in 2nd gear. Not a good spot for power at all. The 2.73 gears are not good for short term acceleration if that's what you want. I recommend 4.10's in an auto and 3.73's in a stick.

I run 4.5-5 seconds flat depending on conditions, traction, et cetera. there are many different variables in the world of cars.

Gas quality and climate as well as altitude also plays a huge role. When I drive my car by the ocean, on pacific coast highway, if its 50-70 degrees out, the car pulls completely differently than on a hot 100 degree day in los angeles. By the ocean it will rev instantly, and I'll be at my 7500 RPM limiter before I can shift into 2nd, the car sidestepping violently. Same scenario in 100 degree weather in LA, and the car is very easy to control. Nowhere near as violent.
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He says he has S mode, I thought only the PP cars came with Sport mode? That should make his car a 3.31 geared car from the factory.


I'm so confused right now as to what he actually has.
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I have S mode on the auto shifter. It's a convertible 2013 V6 and considering the 17" stock rims and the dash computer as well as the chrome interior trims, I would suppose it is a Premium Package. It also has 2 exhausts, which I think is not standard for the 2013 v6.

Not sure myself really.

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Yeah I think I was confusing myself with sport mode on the auto trans and the advance track sport mode that comes on the Performance Pack cars. I'm pretty sure all 2013-2014 auto cars come with sport mode on the transmission.
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He says he has S mode, I thought only the PP cars came with Sport mode? That should make his car a 3.31 geared car from the factory.


I'm so confused right now as to what he actually has.
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I have S mode on the auto shifter. It's a convertible 2013 V6 and considering the 17" stock rims and the dash computer as well as the chrome interior trims, I would suppose it is a Premium Package. It also has 2 exhausts, which I think is not standard for the 2013 v6.

Not sure myself really.

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It would be news to me that sport mode is only on performance package. But I have a 2012 so I don't know for sure. There is a website where you can type in your VIN to get your window sticker. You could also take a picture of the sticker on the inside of your driver's side door and post it here, and we can tell you some info about your car from the codes on that, including gears.

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First these 3 things are all different, and only certain V6s have sport mode on Advance Trak, and GTs. Advance Trak Sport mode was missing on my 2013 Pony Pak , but the other two were available.
  • Sport mode on Steering (I am not sure if all come with it, most do)
  • Sport mode on Advance Trak (Only certain V6s)
  • Sport mode on Transmission. (2013+ autos)
Next if you have an Aftermarket tune, it does not change sport mode on transmission shifts. The shifts in the tune only work in DRIVE. All the tuners told me last year they could not access the sport mode of the transmission controller only drive.
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...It also has 2 exhausts, which I think is not standard for the 2013 v6.
All 2011+ Mustangs (V6 or V8) have true dual exhaust.
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I have a base 2014 V6 with tech package and yes it has S mode with 2.73 gears
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You guys who say CAI are useless or lose power... have you ever went from a CAI to a stock air box then back to a CAI? Or are you just saying that because you don't want to buy an intake lol.

I have done this at least 5 times back when I first got my car and was worried about the warranty. I would take the CAI off and ON every time I took the car to get the oil changed. It definitely makes a difference at throttle tip in, and throughout the whole rpm band. Not a huge life changing difference, but after driving with the cai for 8k miles, then putting on the stock box, driving with it for 30 miles to the dealer, then putting the cai back on and driving around you will immediately notice the difference. Enough so that I took the time to re install the CAI every time. Also, past 7000 RPM, from 7-7.5k the CAI actually makes a huge difference allowing the motor to hold the hp peak from 6600-7300 RPM. Without the CAI the engine peaks by 6500 and is not able to make power past that RPM, pulling substantially slower.

I've said this so many times. It's literally impossible for a CAI to not do anything. The stock intake has many restrictions, carbon traps, bends, seams, stops, et cetera built into it. Go take your stock intake off and look inside it. I have. It does hinder airflow. It's like sucking oxygen through a straw. Can you suck enough oxygen through a straw to stay alive? Yea. Can you suck enough oxygen out of a straw while lightly jogging? Yea. But imagine if you didn't have that straw there hindering airflow, it would be much easier to start jogging and jog harder. That's what a cai does. Relieve that restriction the engine has in initially pulling air into the combustion chambers. Allowing the engine to freely ingest air without any restriction.

Yes, the newer stock air boxes aren't as bad, many even providing cooler air than the "CAI" nowadays, but they all have even worse emissions controls now, and they all have the same restrictions in them as well.
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You guys who say CAI are useless or lose power... have you ever went from a CAI to a stock air box then back to a CAI? Or are you just saying that because you don't want to buy an intake lol.

I have done this at least 5 times back when I first got my car and was worried about the warranty. I would take the CAI off and ON every time I took the car to get the oil changed. It definitely makes a difference at throttle tip in, and throughout the whole rpm band. Not a huge life changing difference, but after driving with the cai for 8k miles, then putting on the stock box, driving with it for 30 miles to the dealer, then putting the cai back on and driving around you will immediately notice the difference. Enough so that I took the time to re install the CAI every time. Also, past 7000 RPM, from 7-7.5k the CAI actually makes a huge difference allowing the motor to hold the hp peak from 6600-7300 RPM. Without the CAI the engine peaks by 6500 and is not able to make power past that RPM, pulling substantially slower.

I've said this so many times. It's literally impossible for a CAI to not do anything. The stock intake has many restrictions, carbon traps, bends, seams, stops, et cetera built into it. Go take your stock intake off and look inside it. I have. It does hinder airflow. It's like sucking oxygen through a straw. Can you suck enough oxygen through a straw to stay alive? Yea. Can you suck enough oxygen out of a straw while lightly jogging? Yea. But imagine if you didn't have that straw there hindering airflow, it would be much easier to start jogging and jog harder. That's what a cai does. Relieve that restriction the engine has in initially pulling air into the combustion chambers. Allowing the engine to freely ingest air without any restriction.

Yes, the newer stock air boxes aren't as bad, many even providing cooler air than the "CAI" nowadays, but they all have even worse emissions controls now, and they all have the same restrictions in them as well.

There's a carbon trap in the intake?
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There's a carbon trap in the intake?
After about 10 minutes of searching, the best I could come up with is, they stopped using them sometime around 2005.
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In California they have them installed.
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Which one is the site to type in your VIN and get the window sticker ??
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Which one is the site to type in your VIN and get the window sticker ??
http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Numbe...cker/Ford.html

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Unhappy I'm getting slow time 0-60 as well??

I have a 2013 V6 Premium automatic transmission, Steeda CAI & Steeda 93 octane Tune, and swapped my 2.73 for 3.73 gear ratio.
Fastest time I was able to get was 5.7s from this morning, (5.8s last Friday). Location is southeast Texas with 73 degrees Fahrenheit for temperature and 98% humidity. Why is my time so slow??
This guy has similar mods, but still has the stock 2.73 gear ratio and can run 5.0s flat! >_>

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He had to have been going downhill.

No way he has that much wheel spin and gets 0-60 in 5 flat.
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What kind of 0-60 time should I be seeing with my mods right now? How about when it's colder around December/January?
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Well.. I have V6 MCOA Premium Automatic, BBK CAI and muffler delete. I run 6.0 flat on 0-60. The same time I ran without the CAI. Doesnt matter if is in S or D, Track on or off.. I always get 6.0. But S feels cooler and sound better.
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I have a Steeda 93 Octane tune so the car shifts more firmly and the throttle response is better in D than S now.
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I have a Steeda 93 Octane tune so the car shifts more firmly and the throttle response is better in D than S now.
It will. The tuning companies don't have access to Sport mode profiles. They can only change your Drive profile.

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