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Old 08-13-2014, 10:00 PM   #1
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Concern...moded 2013 V6 0-60mph.

Ok now I'm concerned...

Per the specs, a 2013 Mustang V6 with premium fuel should be doing about 6 secs from 0-60mph.

Mine has :

- JLT cold air intake
- BBK 73mm throttle body
- PYPES axel back muffler delete exhaust
- BAMA race tune
- AIRAID POWERAID throttle spacer
- running 91 octane fuel

I just did a 0-60 run with the onboard track app the car has, twice, and ended up getting 6.2 and 6.8 as a result.

MAJOR WTF ????

Shouldn't I be doing 5.5 or so ?

Am I doing it wrong ?

This sucks...
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Ok now I'm concerned...

Per the specs, a 2013 Mustang V6 with premium fuel should be doing about 6 secs from 0-60mph.

Mine has :

- JLT cold air intake
- BBK 73mm throttle body
- PYPES axel back muffler delete exhaust
- BAMA race tune
- AIRAID POWERAID throttle spacer
- running 91 octane fuel

I just did a 0-60 run with the onboard track app the car has, twice, and ended up getting 6.2 and 6.8 as a result.

MAJOR WTF ????

Shouldn't I be doing 5.5 or so ?

Am I doing it wrong ?

This sucks...
Manual or Automatic? What tires do you have?
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Manual or Automatic? What tires do you have?
+1 and 2.73s I assume?
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And what suspension mods, if any, do you have?
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Is your traction control turned off?
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What tires do you have?

I don't know how I feel ab the JLT intakes on the 2011+... Seems like their dated design just draws hot air instead of pulling from stock grille location. Willing to bet the TB and TB spacer aren't doing a damn thing so scratch those off the list.

Weather is also a factor.
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Something is definitely wrong. I can manage a 5.3 0-60 with only a Barton short shifter/bracket(I live in California, possibly a different climate than you).


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I'm curious to do a 0-60 my launches aren't that great if driving a manual maybe that could be it? Have you had your car on a dyno?


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It's an auto...I was not putting it in Sport mode though...maybe that's it.

Tires are the stock ones, Michelin P215/65/R17
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Yes the gears are stock ones...and the transmission is the stock 6 speed auto....

---------- Post added at 12:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 AM ----------

None...stock suspensions.
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Mikeygaga...no I didn't think about that...
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3.7L....I live in CA too...LA.
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GunMetalGT...no but I probably should do a dyno. I'll look into doing it...
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3.7L....I live in CA too...LA.

Put it in sport mode next time, it should make a noticeable difference!


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I have read some where that the JLT intakes may do more harm then good that they pull in hot turbulent air. Maybe you can look into that


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Guys you mentioned WEATHER... I'm in the middle east (dubai, uae). So my car will be slower because it's hot in here?

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Guys you mentioned WEATHER... I'm in the middle east (dubai, uae). So my car will be slower because it's hot in here?

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I can't fully answer your question but I do know that on hot days in New Mexico where I live a normally hot day 100+ results in some power loss on the dyno.! Elevation plays a role too.


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I have read some where that the JLT intakes may do more harm then good that they pull in hot turbulent air. Maybe you can look into that


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That's what I mentioned in my post a few posts up.
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That's what I mentioned in my post a few posts up.

Please send me a link where you heard the information? I am very curious to read about it.


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Mikeygaga...no I didn't think about that...

Try it with traction control off.. I guarantee you get lower times.
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The stock converter is EXTREMELY lazy, it also may help to stage the car a bit before you try launching too (left foot on brake, right foot on gas so you just arent leaving off idle, only needs about 1500 rpm or so).

Also, tires, 1/2 a second is not that long in the grand scheme of things, anything other than a perfect launch and you may as well start over.

lastly, suspension, do you have springs, LCA's, most importantly if you're lowered are the LCA brackets? If you're lowered with no brackets the car will squat on shifts and you will definetly lose time there. Also, how are you recording it?
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My 2.73 geared 2013 V6 auto would not get under 5.9, I put 3.55s in it to get 5.4 as a best with a MPT 93 octane tune in cool air.

And Tuned Auto's must be run in the "D" mode, tunes according to Bama and MPT cannot access the "S" or Sport mode.
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Ok now I'm concerned...

Per the specs, a 2013 Mustang V6 with premium fuel should be doing about 6 secs from 0-60mph.

Mine has :

- JLT cold air intake
- BBK 73mm throttle body
- PYPES axel back muffler delete exhaust
- BAMA race tune
- AIRAID POWERAID throttle spacer
- running 91 octane fuel

I just did a 0-60 run with the onboard track app the car has, twice, and ended up getting 6.2 and 6.8 as a result.

MAJOR WTF ????

Shouldn't I be doing 5.5 or so ?

Am I doing it wrong ?

Hey Grom,

What tune were you running? Occupants in the car? By chance have you done this while you're running the stock tune? Have you attempted to measure your 0-60 with any other type of device as well?
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Ok now I'm concerned...

Per the specs, a 2013 Mustang V6 with premium fuel should be doing about 6 secs from 0-60mph.

Mine has :

- JLT cold air intake
- BBK 73mm throttle body
- PYPES axel back muffler delete exhaust
- BAMA race tune
- AIRAID POWERAID throttle spacer
- running 91 octane fuel

I just did a 0-60 run with the onboard track app the car has, twice, and ended up getting 6.2 and 6.8 as a result.

MAJOR WTF ????

Shouldn't I be doing 5.5 or so ?

Am I doing it wrong ?

This sucks...


Does your tune account for your mods? In other words, did you get the BAMA tune first, then get a 73mm throttle body, and not contact BAMA to get your tune adjusted again? Because the mods won't do much--in fact, could even hurt performance--unless the ECU knows how to use them.
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Guys you mentioned WEATHER... I'm in the middle east (dubai, uae). So my car will be slower because it's hot in here?

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Yes. Hot ambient temperature means the air you are sucking in is less dense, therefore the mass is less. Combustion is fuel + air, now you have less air to burn. Less air... less boom. That's why when people here are posting track numbers, you'll often see them say what the temperature was that day.
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Concern...moded 2013 V6 0-60mph.

Voltwings...cool man, good advice thanks.

As for the JLT CAI...I did some research before buying it and it was putting down 17hp on dyno with no tune...so it looked pretty darn good. I haven't read anything about issues with it, but please forward a link if you have it.

I have stock suspensions and springs. BAMA I called after I got both the throttle body and the spacer and thy said each time there was nothing they could/would change to the tune.

Now I understand that with only these mods I ain't going down to 5 from 6 that the car is declared to do...but damn I should be doing better than the bone stock vehicle !

No passengers, I removed the spare tire and that's about it. Tune is BAMA RACE 91...and I measured it with the car's on board application/tool.

So you're telling me the BAMA RACE tune doesn't work in Sport mode?!?

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A throttle body and spacer will "generally" create less low end torque and are not really needed until you get more air able to flow into and out of the engine. Ported intake and heads for example with headers. In other-words at low speed they may be hurting you.

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Voltwings...cool man, good advice thanks.

As for the JLT CAI...I did some research before buying it and it was putting down 17hp on dyno with no tune...so it looked pretty darn good. I haven't read anything about issues with it, but please forward a link if you have it.

I have stock suspensions and springs. BAMA I called after I got both the throttle body and the spacer and thy said each time there was nothing they could/would change to the tune.

Now I understand that with only these mods I ain't going down to 5 from 6 that the car is declared to do...but damn I should be doing better than the bone stock vehicle !

No passengers, I removed the spare tire and that's about it. Tune is BAMA RACE 91...and I measured it with the car's on board application/tool.

So you're telling me the BAMA RACE tune doesn't work in Sport mode?!?

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By the way...There is no way that intake alone put down that much whp on the dyno. I think they forgot a decimal between the 1 and 7.
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By the way...There is no way that intake alone put down that much whp on the dyno. I think they forgot a decimal between the 1 and 7.
or maybe a decimal point before the 1 and 7.... LOL
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When you tune the auto, D is tuned not sport mode.
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Ok now I'm concerned...



Per the specs, a 2013 Mustang V6 with premium fuel should be doing about 6 secs from 0-60mph.



Mine has :



- JLT cold air intake

- BBK 73mm throttle body

- PYPES axel back muffler delete exhaust

- BAMA race tune

- AIRAID POWERAID throttle spacer

- running 91 octane fuel



I just did a 0-60 run with the onboard track app the car has, twice, and ended up getting 6.2 and 6.8 as a result.



MAJOR WTF ????



Shouldn't I be doing 5.5 or so ?



Am I doing it wrong ?



This sucks...

That's weird, I only have pype bombs, everything else is stock and I average a 5.5 easy.


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OK folks on Intake, NO intake alone on 2011+ will give you more power then the STOCK air-box; what it does give you is some sound. Jay Leno and the Boss 302 engineer talk about this in Jay's Garage videos.

Ford Racing also says anyone that claims to give you power gains on an Intake only could be suspect and may cause issues in your performance. That is why before the 2011 model they gave your an intake but not after that in the Ford Racing performance packs. Now they just give you a filter.

Folks, its all available on the internet , seek and yea shall find...do real research...
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